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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:50:49 PM EDT
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38 years ago there was graphite on the roof.
I was 11 and remember watching this unfold when they finally told us about it. More photos here. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Chernobyl-Tour-Pic-Heavy--updates-page-3-and-6-/5-2515933/ |
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i'm your huckleberry. that's just my game.
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No. No need to panic. There was a fire. It's mostly put out. The system control tank exploded.
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I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their shitpoast. - sierra-def
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Mr. Narrator! This is Bob Dylan to me.
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I was a kid living in Berlin at the time it blew. My dad told me their NBC equipment was going crazy as they had it out for an alert after it blew.
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Why is the sky blue?
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Not great. Not terrible
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RS Callsign Mayhem Midget
"I'll come for the killing and stay for the cheesecake" SSgt Jason A Decker. 11/6/09 |
I was four years old.
The culture in that country blew that fucking reactor up, and humanity paid the price. |
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"O God, thy sea is so great and my boat is so small."
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I was in diapers. 86 was a hell of a year though
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If back then, they had the same drone technology we have today, could the drones survive the radiation to provide real-time information?
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Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.' And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave! |
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Patriotism is dead, there are only tyrants and rebels now. -XXX
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Originally Posted By ww1415: This arrived in the mail just the other day: https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/eacf2b52-3a0b-4e74-ac30-3d3450bb8232.dc2b63c9fc30e2b84ba3ba7f55dd48f4.jpeg?odnWidth=1000&odnHeight=1000&odnBg=ffffff View Quote Masterpiece story, visuals, and audio on those disks. |
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: Masterpiece story, visuals, and audio on those disks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JustinU235: Originally Posted By ww1415: This arrived in the mail just the other day: https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/eacf2b52-3a0b-4e74-ac30-3d3450bb8232.dc2b63c9fc30e2b84ba3ba7f55dd48f4.jpeg?odnWidth=1000&odnHeight=1000&odnBg=ffffff Masterpiece story, visuals, and audio on those disks. |
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Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster: News Report From April 28, 1986 |
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“Liberalism, the noble annihilator, has hollowed out every institution, every binding force, every social failsafe and backstop, and its agents feign surprise when the liberating infanticide it promotes is taken to its next logical step.”
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The timing of your trip was great, not terrible.
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I remember watching the story unfold as well
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Originally Posted By Delta10mm: I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Delta10mm: Originally Posted By Slabhanger: interesting question I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. For real? I'd love to hear an explanation for that. I know nothing about radiation and barely more about avionics but I wouldn't have guessed that. Crazy. |
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Originally Posted By CenterMass762: For real? I'd love to hear an explanation for that. I know nothing about radiation and barely more about avionics but I wouldn't have guessed that. Crazy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By Delta10mm: Originally Posted By Slabhanger: interesting question I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. For real? I'd love to hear an explanation for that. I know nothing about radiation and barely more about avionics but I wouldn't have guessed that. Crazy. The helicopter crashed because it hit a construction crane - that was in October 1986: https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/168706 Bio of one of the Chernobyl helicopter pilots (not one who was on the crashed helicopter): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykola_Melnyk After the April 1986 Chernobyl disaster, Melnyk was directed to work in the cleanup operations. Lethal levels of radiation created after the Reactor #4 fire prevented ground liquidator teams from most operations on the roof of the power plant building. However, helicopters could reach and leave the area above the building within seconds, thus inflicting less health damage to the personnel on board. They were employed to cover building openings with sandbags and lead slabs, install necessary equipment, commence aerial photography and atmospheric radioactive contamination monitoring. Melnyk, among others, was assigned to such missions as an experienced civilian helicopter pilot. He flew 46 sorties over the reactor building, for a combined total duration of 52 hours. The most important of those sorties was the so-called "Operation Igla" (Operation Needle), the June 19, 1986, installation of a giant 18-metre (59 ft)-long radiation probe on top of the building by means of a precision drop from a Kamov coaxial rotor helicopter. This operation was described as dropping a "needle" into a precise spot; it was considered especially difficult. When Melnyk successfully completed the operation during a training exercise in Moscow, the observers broke into applause. Melnyk did not know the purpose of the training, however, until several days later when he flew to Kyiv to undertake the actual mission. The first attempt to insert the "needle" into the actual reactor was foiled by a frozen crust above the target; Melnyk succeeded on the third try. According to the "Remembrance Book" by the Chornobyl Museum, Melnyk participated in the 'liquidator' operations on site of the disaster from May 20, 1986, until September 9, 1986. In 1994, he underwent two surgeries related to health problems attributed to his radiation exposure. |
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I was sailing with the New Jersey battle group somewhere in the Indian Ocean when that went down. We read about in it message traffic.
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"In knifemaking everyone gets cut and everyone gets burned." Devin Thomas
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Originally Posted By Delta10mm: I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Delta10mm: Originally Posted By Slabhanger: interesting question I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. How hot was it above the reactor? I'd think wind and updraft would be a problem for a drone more than radiation. But I don't own a drone so this is pure speculation |
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Originally Posted By Delta10mm: I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Delta10mm: Originally Posted By Slabhanger: interesting question I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. Uhh yeah the chopper blade hit a crane / crane cable. That's what caused it to fall out of the sky. But, radiation doses to the pilots weren't great. But I'm betting drone electronics would have had a hard time in some of the hottest zones, yeah. |
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Wasn't NFA Hughes amendment about to kick in too?
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The devil's got my number.
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Originally Posted By mancow: Wasn't NFA Hughes amendment about to kick in too? View Quote May 19, 1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act |
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Originally Posted By ww1415: May 19, 1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ww1415: Originally Posted By mancow: Wasn't NFA Hughes amendment about to kick in too? May 19, 1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act So it was a shitty time all around. |
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The devil's got my number.
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Originally Posted By mancow: So it was a shitty time all around. View Quote Yeah losing new machineguns for civilians was a huge negative, but other than if you were in the vicinity of Chernobyl after the explosion, 1986 was a pretty damn good year to experience: ABC Tall Ships Liberty Weekend NYC July 4 1986 (Part 1) |
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Originally Posted By Delta10mm: I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Delta10mm: Originally Posted By Slabhanger: interesting question I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q11162.html Ionizing radiation breaks down the materials within the electrical equipment. For example, when wiring is exposed to gamma rays, no change is noticed until the wiring is flexed or bent. The wire's insulation becomes brittle and will break and may cause shorts in the equipment. The effect on diodes and computer chips is a bit more complex. The gamma rays disrupt the crystalline nature of the inside of the electronic component. Its function is degraded and then fails as more gamma radiation exposure is received by the electronic component. I seem to remember that some sort of remotely operated space rover was brought in (being radiation hardened) and even that broke down at some point. |
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It was the 80s I didn't pay much attention. I do remember being pissed about the machine gun ban
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What’s the difference between pancakes and a Mini-14? Pancakes hit the spot.-dvanblaricom
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86 was a hard year with the Challenger explosion and Chernobyl happening months apart.
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: 38 years ago there was graphite on the roof. I was 11 and remember watching this unfold when they finally told us about it. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/IAEA_02790015_%285613115146%29.jpg/1200px-IAEA_02790015_%285613115146%29.jpg More photos here. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Chernobyl-Tour-Pic-Heavy--updates-page-3-and-6-/5-2515933/ View Quote I was working out of Lost Wages out in the sand. The main characters were so serious. I knew it was going to suck for Europe, but I didn't think it was the end of the world. |
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"It is a political convention. The criminals will be on the inside." -ParityError
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Was in the 7th grade in Montana and we were worried about our Alaskan and Norwegian family.
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I was just about to be born on the other side of the world.
Heard a lot about the disaster though entirely from the perspective of New Zealand's hardcore anti-nuclear community. Their willful misinformation poisoned my view of fission technology until I reached an important point in my life where I had to sit down and ask. "Was everything I was taught a lie?" Turned out most of it was. Stumbled upon this channel the other day. Pre-Chernobyl History: Rise of the RBMK (1954-1973) |
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It’s… probably not as bad as you think it is.
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I was two weeks old. I never did finish the mini-series. Brave men that sorted that shit out.
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To those who have gone before us. May we earn what they have given.
"We didn't even get the good communism with gulags and death squads. We got the gay communism with trannys and women's basketball." - Agilt |
I was 16 months old at that time.
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: 38 years ago there was graphite on the roof. I was 11 and remember watching this unfold when they finally told us about it. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/IAEA_02790015_%285613115146%29.jpg/1200px-IAEA_02790015_%285613115146%29.jpg More photos here. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Chernobyl-Tour-Pic-Heavy--updates-page-3-and-6-/5-2515933/ View Quote This man is delusional. Take him to the infirmary. |
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We all died and the world was left uninhabitable for millennia. It was terrible.
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I was stationed in Germany, it sucked for awhile.
Supposedly it didn’t affect me although I am not allowed to donate blood |
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Traveled the world, currently living in Indian Territory
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You’re delusional.
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RIP those who looked directly into the core
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Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
General education should not be mere job training, but training in how to be fully human. |
Originally Posted By 11boomboom: I was a kid living in Berlin at the time it blew. My dad told me their NBC equipment was going crazy as they had it out for an alert after it blew. View Quote I was a kid living in Munich at the time. Nobody was sure what was going on and nobody was talking but we were told to pack a suitcase and have it ready. |
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Look, when I woke up this morning I had no plans to be sexy, but shit happens!
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What would be the public thought and opinion of nuclear power today if Chernobyl never happened?
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"O God, thy sea is so great and my boat is so small."
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connoisseur of fine Soviet and European armored vehicles
Let's go Brandon CINCAFUGD |
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Comrade Dyatlov!
The series is absolute genius. The writing, technical aspects, music, acting. Very rewatchable and hopefully teachable. I have a basement home theater and it gets very claustrophobic during the scene when the brave men are walking through the dark corridors to turn the valve with the dosimeter screaming louder and louder in surround sound. |
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Originally Posted By Boomer: Three Mile Island was already a thing at the time. As well as decades of anti-nuclear propaganda. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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"O God, thy sea is so great and my boat is so small."
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Originally Posted By Boomer: Wasn’t that more to do with Mad Cow disease? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Boomer: Originally Posted By USCG_CPO: I was stationed in Germany, it sucked for awhile. Supposedly it didn’t affect me although I am not allowed to donate blood Wasn’t that more to do with Mad Cow disease? Or that weekend in amsterdam? |
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