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Link Posted: 4/28/2024 7:16:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gator96:
I can buy an SXP Defender for $329.  How much lower can the price point go?
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I've been buying State Patrol trade-in Wingmasters fir $185.

Still interested at the right price.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 8:09:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shack357:

I've been buying State Patrol trade-in Wingmasters fir $185.

Still interested at the right price.
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Lol link?
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 8:12:44 PM EDT
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Does it use the 870’s ejector? Hard pass if so.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 8:16:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Birddog1911:

I want a short semi-auto.
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I want a shorty option.

I want a short semi-auto.


This.
I WOULD LOVE A PSA TAC13!!!
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 8:20:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mini14jac:


This.
I WOULD LOVE A PSA TAC13!!!
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Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
Originally Posted By thenning:
I want a shorty option.

I want a short semi-auto.


This.
I WOULD LOVE A PSA TAC13!!!

Hell yeah.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 8:28:10 PM EDT
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Make mine an under folding stock, please.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 10:28:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By craig24680:


Lol link?
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Originally Posted By shack357:

I've been buying State Patrol trade-in Wingmasters fir $185.

Still interested at the right price.


Lol link?

They sold the last one a couple weeks ago. IA State Patrol dumped their shotguns and got rifles. Buddy of mine let me know when public sales opened up(lots went to either the individual troopers or to small town departments). I wound up getting a very nice gloss blued police magnum for $299 and 3 wingmasters for $185(gave 2 as gifts).

My brother bought a wingmaster too, traded me the wood furniture to put on my 12" SBS.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 12:59:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shack357:

I want a non magpul furniture option.
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Originally Posted By shack357:
Originally Posted By thenning:
I want a shorty option.

I want a non magpul furniture option.


I want a nice, highly figured Walnut stock. Smooth rear with a good comb, and a rounded and ribbed pump handle up front, the way old police shotgun stocks were made. That ribbed front stock makes it impossible for your hand to slip off of it, and even better if its got a strap on it. Best fore grip I ever had on a shotgun was like that. The smooth ones are prettier, but the ribbed, combat / police ones stick to your hand like glue, and that's something you need in a fighting shotgun.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 1:09:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Redman556:


I want a nice, highly figured Walnut stock. Smooth rear with a good comb, and a rounded and ribbed pump handle up front, the way old police shotgun stocks were made. That ribbed front stock makes it impossible for your hand to slip off of it, and even better if its got a strap on it. Best fore grip I ever had on a shotgun was like that. The smooth ones are prettier, but the ribbed, combat / police ones stick to your hand like glue, and that's something you need in a fighting shotgun.
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Originally Posted By Redman556:
Originally Posted By shack357:
Originally Posted By thenning:  I want a shorty option.

I want a non magpul furniture option.


I want a nice, highly figured Walnut stock. Smooth rear with a good comb, and a rounded and ribbed pump handle up front, the way old police shotgun stocks were made. That ribbed front stock makes it impossible for your hand to slip off of it, and even better if its got a strap on it. Best fore grip I ever had on a shotgun was like that. The smooth ones are prettier, but the ribbed, combat / police ones stick to your hand like glue, and that's something you need in a fighting shotgun.


So, like Mossberg already offers?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 1:54:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


So, like Mossberg already offers?
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Redman556:
Originally Posted By shack357:
Originally Posted By thenning:  I want a shorty option.

I want a non magpul furniture option.


I want a nice, highly figured Walnut stock. Smooth rear with a good comb, and a rounded and ribbed pump handle up front, the way old police shotgun stocks were made. That ribbed front stock makes it impossible for your hand to slip off of it, and even better if its got a strap on it. Best fore grip I ever had on a shotgun was like that. The smooth ones are prettier, but the ribbed, combat / police ones stick to your hand like glue, and that's something you need in a fighting shotgun.


So, like Mossberg already offers?


Like a lot of shotguns offer. One more won't hurt, and if you put your thinking cap on, PSA will be giving those buyers another option, which will lead to PSA encroaching on another part of the shotgun market. It's all about growth models when offering a product that is already made by other companies. You must compete in the segments the others are competing in. You can't compete unless you compete in all aspects. You can't allow them to corner a part of the market simply because you don't offer a product. You must offer a product in that realm.

Jamin, make one in a standard size, 18" barrel, call it the PSA Sheriff.
Make a second model in a 13" barrel, call it The PSA Deputy.

You wouldn't have to make the wood stocks. There are a lot of good companies out there that make the stocks, all you'd need is to specify to them what you want on the stocks. When they come in, you guys install them on the shotguns you allocate for those models, and order extras for sale to the public in case someone gets the urge to configure theirs that way.

They'll sell.

You'll have plenty for folks that want plastic stocks, tactical versions etc, but you have to compete in all the various pump shotgun markets.

And, you can of course, make an attempt to get Law Enforcement sales in the Carolina's, by offering them those traditional wood stocked models and the polymer stocked models, both length's, just tricked out different ways to appeal to both sides of the market. After the Carolina's, the world.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 2:26:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Redman556:


Like a lot of shotguns offer. One more won't hurt, and if you put your thinking cap on, PSA will be giving those buyers another option, which will lead to PSA encroaching on another part of the shotgun market. It's all about growth models when offering a product that is already made by other companies. You must compete in the segments the others are competing in. You can't compete unless you compete in all aspects. You can't allow them to corner a part of the market simply because you don't offer a product. You must offer a product in that realm.

Jamin, make one in a standard size, 18" barrel, call it the PSA Sheriff.
Make a second model in a 13" barrel, call it The PSA Deputy.

You wouldn't have to make the wood stocks. There are a lot of good companies out there that make the stocks, all you'd need is to specify to them what you want on the stocks. When they come in, you guys install them on the shotguns you allocate for those models, and order extras for sale to the public in case someone gets the urge to configure theirs that way.

They'll sell.

You'll have plenty for folks that want plastic stocks, tactical versions etc, but you have to compete in all the various pump shotgun markets.

And, you can of course, make an attempt to get Law Enforcement sales in the Carolina's, by offering them those traditional wood stocked models and the polymer stocked models, both length's, just tricked out different ways to appeal to both sides of the market. After the Carolina's, the world.
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Originally Posted By Redman556:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Redman556:
Originally Posted By shack357:  
Originally Posted By thenning:  I want a shorty option.


I want a non magpul furniture option.


I want a nice, highly figured Walnut stock. Smooth rear with a good comb, and a rounded and ribbed pump handle up front, the way old police shotgun stocks were made. That ribbed front stock makes it impossible for your hand to slip off of it, and even better if its got a strap on it. Best fore grip I ever had on a shotgun was like that. The smooth ones are prettier, but the ribbed, combat / police ones stick to your hand like glue, and that's something you need in a fighting shotgun.


So, like Mossberg already offers?


Like a lot of shotguns offer. One more won't hurt, and if you put your thinking cap on, PSA will be giving those buyers another option, which will lead to PSA encroaching on another part of the shotgun market. It's all about growth models when offering a product that is already made by other companies. You must compete in the segments the others are competing in. You can't compete unless you compete in all aspects. You can't allow them to corner a part of the market simply because you don't offer a product. You must offer a product in that realm.

Jamin, make one in a standard size, 18" barrel, call it the PSA Sheriff.
Make a second model in a 13" barrel, call it The PSA Deputy.

You wouldn't have to make the wood stocks. There are a lot of good companies out there that make the stocks, all you'd need is to specify to them what you want on the stocks. When they come in, you guys install them on the shotguns you allocate for those models, and order extras for sale to the public in case someone gets the urge to configure theirs that way.

They'll sell.

You'll have plenty for folks that want plastic stocks, tactical versions etc, but you have to compete in all the various pump shotgun markets.

And, you can of course, make an attempt to get Law Enforcement sales in the Carolina's, by offering them those traditional wood stocked models and the polymer stocked models, both length's, just tricked out different ways to appeal to both sides of the market. After the Carolina's, the world.


I would point out that Toyota has been very successful in the light truck market, but has never offered a Diesel in the United States.  PSA can choose to compete how they like, likely the most profitable sectors, without duplicating every single model the competition offers.  They could choose to skip any wood offerings and leave those to Rem Arms & Mossberg, and still be very successful.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:23:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


I would point out that Toyota has been very successful in the light truck market, but has never offered a Diesel in the United States.  PSA can choose to compete how they like, likely the most profitable sectors, without duplicating every single model the competition offers.  They could choose to skip any wood offerings and leave those to Rem Arms & Mossberg, and still be very successful.
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Redman556:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Redman556:
Originally Posted By shack357:  
Originally Posted By thenning:  I want a shorty option.


I want a non magpul furniture option.


I want a nice, highly figured Walnut stock. Smooth rear with a good comb, and a rounded and ribbed pump handle up front, the way old police shotgun stocks were made. That ribbed front stock makes it impossible for your hand to slip off of it, and even better if its got a strap on it. Best fore grip I ever had on a shotgun was like that. The smooth ones are prettier, but the ribbed, combat / police ones stick to your hand like glue, and that's something you need in a fighting shotgun.


So, like Mossberg already offers?


Like a lot of shotguns offer. One more won't hurt, and if you put your thinking cap on, PSA will be giving those buyers another option, which will lead to PSA encroaching on another part of the shotgun market. It's all about growth models when offering a product that is already made by other companies. You must compete in the segments the others are competing in. You can't compete unless you compete in all aspects. You can't allow them to corner a part of the market simply because you don't offer a product. You must offer a product in that realm.

Jamin, make one in a standard size, 18" barrel, call it the PSA Sheriff.
Make a second model in a 13" barrel, call it The PSA Deputy.

You wouldn't have to make the wood stocks. There are a lot of good companies out there that make the stocks, all you'd need is to specify to them what you want on the stocks. When they come in, you guys install them on the shotguns you allocate for those models, and order extras for sale to the public in case someone gets the urge to configure theirs that way.

They'll sell.

You'll have plenty for folks that want plastic stocks, tactical versions etc, but you have to compete in all the various pump shotgun markets.

And, you can of course, make an attempt to get Law Enforcement sales in the Carolina's, by offering them those traditional wood stocked models and the polymer stocked models, both length's, just tricked out different ways to appeal to both sides of the market. After the Carolina's, the world.


I would point out that Toyota has been very successful in the light truck market, but has never offered a Diesel in the United States.  PSA can choose to compete how they like, likely the most profitable sectors, without duplicating every single model the competition offers.  They could choose to skip any wood offerings and leave those to Rem Arms & Mossberg, and still be very successful.


They could, but they would sell a lot of the wood stocked models. Personally , I believe they're leaving easy money on the table if they don't.
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 7:53:10 AM EDT
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In addition to Nitride finish + PSA #1 Buckshot, I'd love to see the option of a 18" Vent Rib barrel.

Similar to this VangComp offering.

Link Posted: 4/30/2024 10:39:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-:
Does it use the 870’s ejector? Hard pass if so.
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Hopefully it'll be mounted in the barrel extension like you typically see on Italian shotguns.
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 12:09:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Redman556:


They could, but they would sell a lot of the wood stocked models. Personally , I believe they're leaving easy money on the table if they don't.
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Originally Posted By Redman556:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Redman556:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Redman556:
Originally Posted By shack357:  
Originally Posted By thenning:  I want a shorty option.


I want a non magpul furniture option.


I want a nice, highly figured Walnut stock. Smooth rear with a good comb, and a rounded and ribbed pump handle up front, the way old police shotgun stocks were made. That ribbed front stock makes it impossible for your hand to slip off of it, and even better if its got a strap on it. Best fore grip I ever had on a shotgun was like that. The smooth ones are prettier, but the ribbed, combat / police ones stick to your hand like glue, and that's something you need in a fighting shotgun.


So, like Mossberg already offers?


Like a lot of shotguns offer. One more won't hurt, and if you put your thinking cap on, PSA will be giving those buyers another option, which will lead to PSA encroaching on another part of the shotgun market. It's all about growth models when offering a product that is already made by other companies. You must compete in the segments the others are competing in. You can't compete unless you compete in all aspects. You can't allow them to corner a part of the market simply because you don't offer a product. You must offer a product in that realm.

Jamin, make one in a standard size, 18" barrel, call it the PSA Sheriff.
Make a second model in a 13" barrel, call it The PSA Deputy.

You wouldn't have to make the wood stocks. There are a lot of good companies out there that make the stocks, all you'd need is to specify to them what you want on the stocks. When they come in, you guys install them on the shotguns you allocate for those models, and order extras for sale to the public in case someone gets the urge to configure theirs that way.

They'll sell.

You'll have plenty for folks that want plastic stocks, tactical versions etc, but you have to compete in all the various pump shotgun markets.

And, you can of course, make an attempt to get Law Enforcement sales in the Carolina's, by offering them those traditional wood stocked models and the polymer stocked models, both length's, just tricked out different ways to appeal to both sides of the market. After the Carolina's, the world.


I would point out that Toyota has been very successful in the light truck market, but has never offered a Diesel in the United States.  PSA can choose to compete how they like, likely the most profitable sectors, without duplicating every single model the competition offers.  They could choose to skip any wood offerings and leave those to Rem Arms & Mossberg, and still be very successful.


They could, but they would sell a lot of the wood stocked models. Personally , I believe they're leaving easy money on the table if they don't.

Especially if it takes 870 stocks. Buy stock from any of several suppliers and price accordingly.
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 12:19:27 PM EDT
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I will buy the shit out of an AOW one. the $5 stamp is the only one I don't have that I'm interested in
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 12:21:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shack357:

I've been buying State Patrol trade-in Wingmasters fir $185.

Still interested at the right price.
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Originally Posted By Gator96:
I can buy an SXP Defender for $329.  How much lower can the price point go?

I've been buying State Patrol trade-in Wingmasters fir $185.

Still interested at the right price.

Link? Have y seen anything like that in YEARS
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 1:02:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shack357:

They sold the last one a couple weeks ago. IA State Patrol dumped their shotguns and got rifles. Buddy of mine let me know when public sales opened up(lots went to either the individual troopers or to small town departments). I wound up getting a very nice gloss blued police magnum for $299 and 3 wingmasters for $185(gave 2 as gifts).

My brother bought a wingmaster too, traded me the wood furniture to put on my 12" SBS.
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Damn, that's a steal. Tough to beat (unless it's free like my last wingmaster was )
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 4:25:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
In addition to Nitride finish + PSA #1 Buckshot, I'd love to see the option of a 18" Vent Rib barrel.

Similar to this VangComp offering.

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ABSOLUTELY THIS.
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 4:41:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:
I will buy the shit out of an AOW one. the $5 stamp is the only one I don't have that I'm interested in
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Doubt PSA will do them. I don’t think I’ve seen any NFA stuff from them.
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 4:47:41 PM EDT
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I want a shockwave-style one
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Doubt PSA will do them. I don't think I've seen any NFA stuff from them.
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:
I will buy the shit out of an AOW one. the $5 stamp is the only one I don't have that I'm interested in

Doubt PSA will do them. I don't think I've seen any NFA stuff from them.

if they sell the receiver without a stock, it can be stamped very easily
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 5:06:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CFletch:

if they sell the receiver without a stock, it can be stamped very easily
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By steviesterno16:
I will buy the shit out of an AOW one. the $5 stamp is the only one I don't have that I'm interested in

Doubt PSA will do them. I don't think I've seen any NFA stuff from them.

if they sell the receiver without a stock, it can be stamped very easily

Yup that’s why I mentioned shops buying them earlier.
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 7:09:11 PM EDT
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Hopefully it'll be mounted in the barrel extension like you typically see on Italian shotguns.
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Does it use the 870’s ejector? Hard pass if so.


Hopefully it'll be mounted in the barrel extension like you typically see on Italian shotguns.


That would mean a proprietary barrel which would kill the project.
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 8:37:07 PM EDT
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You can buy them a piece at a time, and put whatever the hell you want on them instead of buying an entire gun and swapping parts out.
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 8:39:30 PM EDT
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I'm happy with my FN/Browning Auto Five, but thanks!

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I bet you have a gold pocket watch you make a point of checking the time on whenever you're around an audience.


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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
In addition to Nitride finish + PSA #1 Buckshot, I'd love to see the option of a 18" Vent Rib barrel.

Similar to this VangComp offering.

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Link Posted: 4/30/2024 9:57:27 PM EDT
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That would mean a proprietary barrel which would kill the project.
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By SnowMexican:
Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Does it use the 870’s ejector? Hard pass if so.


Hopefully it'll be mounted in the barrel extension like you typically see on Italian shotguns.


That would mean a proprietary barrel which would kill the project.

Do these use existing barrels?
Link Posted: 5/1/2024 12:10:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:


Do these use existing barrels?
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By SnowMexican:
Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Does it use the 870’s ejector? Hard pass if so.


Hopefully it'll be mounted in the barrel extension like you typically see on Italian shotguns.


That would mean a proprietary barrel which would kill the project.


Do these use existing barrels?


I believe the whole point of this project is a 500/870 mashup.  If it doesn't use existing barrels and furniture, what's the point?
Link Posted: 5/1/2024 12:39:14 AM EDT
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I believe the whole point of this project is a 500/870 mashup.  If it doesn't use existing barrels and furniture, what's the point?
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By SnowMexican:
Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Does it use the 870’s ejector? Hard pass if so.


Hopefully it'll be mounted in the barrel extension like you typically see on Italian shotguns.


That would mean a proprietary barrel which would kill the project.


Do these use existing barrels?


I believe the whole point of this project is a 500/870 mashup.  If it doesn't use existing barrels and furniture, what's the point?

I took their name to mean they borrowed features from each of them. The point is to manufacturer their own gun in house like they do with all their other stuff. I don’t know much about this but the couple videos I saw I don’t remember them mentioning it using existing barrels but I have no idea.
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:


I took their name to mean they borrowed features from each of them. The point is to manufacturer their own gun in house like they do with all their other stuff. I don’t know much about this but the couple videos I saw I don’t remember them mentioning it using existing barrels but I have no idea.
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By SnowMexican:
Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Does it use the 870’s ejector? Hard pass if so.


Hopefully it'll be mounted in the barrel extension like you typically see on Italian shotguns.


That would mean a proprietary barrel which would kill the project.


Do these use existing barrels?


I believe the whole point of this project is a 500/870 mashup.  If it doesn't use existing barrels and furniture, what's the point?


I took their name to mean they borrowed features from each of them. The point is to manufacturer their own gun in house like they do with all their other stuff. I don’t know much about this but the couple videos I saw I don’t remember them mentioning it using existing barrels but I have no idea.


It's not like we lack for cheap Chinese & Turkish pump shotguns on the 870/500 pattern already - but only the Hawk was 98% 870 compatible, and some of the Turk shotguns will run 870 stocks w/ an adapter.
Link Posted: 5/1/2024 1:14:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bud:
That barrel clamp is enormous.

I wonder what the thought process is behind that.
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Will likely support a light rail/QD swivels like a Nordic Components clamp.
Link Posted: 5/1/2024 9:04:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tsg68:


Will likely support a light rail/QD swivels like a Nordic Components clamp.
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Originally Posted By Bud:
That barrel clamp is enormous.

I wonder what the thought process is behind that.


Will likely support a light rail/QD swivels like a Nordic Components clamp.


I would like to see a more slimmed down clamp as it does detract from the aesthetics / lines.



The Nordic clamp design looks both functional and a good bit less bulky; I'd like to see something like that.



Link Posted: 5/6/2024 12:07:35 PM EDT
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Needs Buis that can be cowitnessed with the optic. Needs a sling mount that doesn't interfere with the pump, two point. Needs a left side mount for a flashlight, that can be actuated with a tailcap.

Needs to be able to take esstac shotgun cards, that are compatible with current carriers that have M4 pouches.

Vang comp barrel at 18 inches with a 00buck choke cut. Tight patterns at 50 yards.

Maybe an option for a pic rail instead of a pistol sight relief cut.

A barrel shroud that actually does what it should, because shotgun barrels get hot.

Is that good for starters?
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 12:47:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stretchman:  Needs Buis that can be cowitnessed with the optic. Needs a sling mount that doesn't interfere with the pump, two point. Needs a left side mount for a flashlight, that can be actuated with a tailcap.

Needs to be able to take esstac shotgun cards, that are compatible with current carriers that have M4 pouches.

Vang comp barrel at 18 inches with a 00buck choke cut. Tight patterns at 50 yards.

Maybe an option for a pic rail instead of a pistol sight relief cut.

A barrel shroud that actually does what it should, because shotgun barrels get hot.

Is that good for starters?
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Your hand should be on the pump, unless you're using the bayonet.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 12:52:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


Your hand should be on the pump, unless you're using the bayonet.
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Well, thanks for that. But sometimes, you actually have to use your hand for other things.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 1:23:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stretchman:


Well, thanks for that. But sometimes, you actually have to use your hand for other things.
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Originally Posted By Stretchman:
Originally Posted By backbencher:  Your hand should be on the pump, unless you're using the bayonet.


Well, thanks for that. But sometimes, you actually have to use your hand for other things.


Loading the shotgun & fixing the bayonet, yes.  Touching the barrel long enough to burn your hand through your glove, not really - unless you're actually using the bayonet, in which case you need an actual heat shield, unlike 99% of shotguns.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:07:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


Loading the shotgun & fixing the bayonet, yes.  Touching the barrel long enough to burn your hand through your glove, not really - unless you're actually using the bayonet, in which case you need an actual heat shield, unlike 99% of shotguns.
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Stretchman:
Originally Posted By backbencher:  Your hand should be on the pump, unless you're using the bayonet.


Well, thanks for that. But sometimes, you actually have to use your hand for other things.


Loading the shotgun & fixing the bayonet, yes.  Touching the barrel long enough to burn your hand through your glove, not really - unless you're actually using the bayonet, in which case you need an actual heat shield, unlike 99% of shotguns.


Because you never do anything else except run the gun in full kit, and the weapon never goes to rest, or transitions to pistol, or anything else that might make you scream words some people might find offensive.

But thanks for your input. Really. Because no one has ever been burned by a hot shotgun barrel, except me. Which, is why, I might like a shroud, but hey, it is only a wishlist, and not some terrorist demands.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:32:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:

Doubt PSA will do them. I don’t think I’ve seen any NFA stuff from them.
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:
I will buy the shit out of an AOW one. the $5 stamp is the only one I don't have that I'm interested in

Doubt PSA will do them. I don’t think I’ve seen any NFA stuff from them.

All PSA needs to do is sell bare receivers without a stock or barrel.  I'm sure there'd be an SOT or two somewhere who would build up a few into AOWs.
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Wear on the mag tube from the slide?  Is the safety ambi?
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:54:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname:

All PSA needs to do is sell bare receivers without a stock or barrel.  I'm sure there'd be an SOT or two somewhere who would build up a few into AOWs.
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By steviesterno16:
I will buy the shit out of an AOW one. the $5 stamp is the only one I don't have that I'm interested in

Doubt PSA will do them. I don’t think I’ve seen any NFA stuff from them.

All PSA needs to do is sell bare receivers without a stock or barrel.  I'm sure there'd be an SOT or two somewhere who would build up a few into AOWs.



Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Looking forward to it. Hope to see shorty options for the SBS and AOW guns.

AOW please

They've already said they will be selling receivers so that makes it easier for a shop to start with.
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