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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:21:57 AM EDT
The WH has chosen Print.

You do not even notice, except you believe those evil retailers are ripping us off.

More Money for Ukraine means more evil Retailers.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:23:08 AM EDT
[#1]
I'd prefer to cut spending.  
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:24:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:24:44 AM EDT
[#3]
Funny cause they are gonna do both, simultaniously. The ruination of America is the goal.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:24:52 AM EDT
[#4]
FJB

He's doing both when he "lets" the Trump tax cuts expire.

112
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:25:00 AM EDT
[#5]
Spend less
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:27:03 AM EDT
[#6]
"Get both!" -Uncle Sam
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:27:24 AM EDT
[#7]
How about neither the Gov. should cut spending and stop giving billions up on billion of dollars to other country's. I don't know people think we need to be the police of the world or support other country's or pay them to be our friends.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:27:26 AM EDT
[#8]
Cut spending, but I think taxes will need to be raised to get the debt down.

More than anything, I don't think we need to raise taxes we just need people to pay them. Nearly half this country has zero tax liability. No more free rides.

25% across the board. Zero exemptions. Zero deductions. Zero credits. It just gets taken out if your check and remitted automatically like sales tax.

It would suck but we aren't cutting spending enough to get a surplus. We haven't had a surplus in many decades even before our interest expense jumped.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:28:04 AM EDT
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Most people in America are substantially undertaxed compared to all of the European nations our betters aspire to imitate. The left knows they would be out on their asses if they actually tried to compel half of America to pay any appreciable amount of income tax, so they print money, which acts as a de facto tax on the poor. It’s still a stickup but it’s one they can get away with easier.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:28:11 AM EDT
[#10]
Kick in the balls by Chuck Norris or a punch to the face by Mike Tyson.

Which do you prefer?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:31:08 AM EDT
[#11]
Democrats will get both.

Just another libtard wealth redistribution scheme.

Prepare accordingly.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:32:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
I'd prefer to cut spending.  
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This.

Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:33:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By -Obsessed-:
Cut spending, but I think taxes will need to be raised to get the debt down.

More than anything, I don't think we need to raise taxes we just need people to pay them. Nearly half this country has zero tax liability. No more free rides.

25% across the board. Zero exemptions. Zero deductions. Zero credits. It just gets taken out if your check and remitted automatically like sales tax.

It would suck but we aren't cutting spending enough to get a surplus. We haven't had a surplus in many decades even before our interest expense jumped.
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lol fuck that
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:33:01 AM EDT
[#14]
Neither.  Pass a fucking budget and live within your means.  Cut out the bullshit pork and fund the important stuff.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:35:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
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Yeah but that's not one of the options they give you.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:35:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
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This is the correct answer.

The government should stay out of welfare, healthcare and education business.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:36:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
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...
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:36:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By perfectsilence:
Most people in America are substantially undertaxed compared to all of the European nations our betters aspire to imitate. The left knows they would be out on their asses if they actually tried to compel half of America to pay any appreciable amount of income tax, so they print money, which acts as a de facto tax on the poor. It’s still a stickup but it’s one they can get away with easier.
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Congrats...
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:39:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:43:10 AM EDT
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Unironically, yes. If you think otherwise, it’s at your own peril.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:44:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By perfectsilence:
Most people in America are substantially undertaxed compared to all of the European nations our betters aspire to imitate. The left knows they would be out on their asses if they actually tried to compel half of America to pay any appreciable amount of income tax, so they print money, which acts as a de facto tax on the poor. It’s still a stickup but it’s one they can get away with easier.
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:45:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
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FPNI!
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:51:05 AM EDT
[#23]
Less tax. Less spending. More revenue.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:52:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: taliv] [#24]
cutting spending is of course, the correct answer


the rest is pros and cons to each

good thing about printing and inflation, is it isn't just targeted at the middle class, as it affects everyone and middle class with assets see those assets appreciate (well, reprice at least)
the bad thing about printing and inflation, is the smooth brains don't understand it and it's easy for the dem operatives in media to blame it on climate change or trump or other completely unrelated issues, and thus continue outrageous spending

if taxes would be raised (or applied) evenly to rich and poor, then that would be preferable.  but that will never happen as they will always target the middle class while claiming to target the rich AND it's not possible to raise taxes enough to offset the obscene spending, so inflation is the only option
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:53:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: killstick_engaged] [#25]
PRINT

MORE

MONEY



They only raise taxes on the middle class anyway, so fuck all that
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:53:39 AM EDT
[#26]
In terms of the money, they're the SAME THING. Both devalue your wallet equally.

However,
Printing causes inflation - tax on EVERYONE
Raising taxes - tax on the PRODUCERS ONLY

Biden HATES the poor and makes them pay more.

The only SOLUTION lies in FPNI
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:55:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: firedog51d] [#27]
I choose the Kobayashi Maru the scenario. Reprogram the simulation . In Minecraft of course.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:57:10 AM EDT
[#28]
The only answer there is spend less.  The amount of stupid shit they waste money on could easily be cut without the need to print more money or raise taxes...hell probably lower them.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:57:36 AM EDT
[#29]
Cut spending.  Dissolve useless, unconstitutional departments.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:57:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CzechMate5:
In terms of the money, they're the SAME THING. Both devalue your wallet equally.

However,
Printing causes inflation - tax on EVERYONE
Raising taxes - tax on the PRODUCERS ONLY

Biden HATES the poor and makes them pay more.

The only SOLUTION lies in FPNI
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biden sounds pretty based not gonna lie




Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:01:24 AM EDT
[#31]
I like the part where government starts downsizing , securing our nations borders and stops giving billions away to a bunch of foreign countries.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:02:49 AM EDT
[#32]
Ever thought about taxing money transfers to south of our imaginary border
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:04:05 AM EDT
[#33]
How about the fed doing it's job and throttling inflation?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:05:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TexanInOhio4:
How about the fed doing it's job and throttling inflation?
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lol who printed the money that caused inflation? You think they care?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:09:12 AM EDT
[#35]
They're basically the same thing. Printing money is just a sneakier means to the same end.

If they raise taxes, they take a certain amount of value from what you have, but you can see how much they took.

If they print money, they take a certain amount of value from what you have, but you don't see that amount directly. Things just cost more now.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:16:26 AM EDT
[#36]
I don’t have much money so I prefer print more rather than tax more, but yes, spend less is the correct answer.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:16:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RIP-Yataski:


Congrats...
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Originally Posted By RIP-Yataski:
Originally Posted By perfectsilence:
Most people in America are substantially undertaxed compared to all of the European nations our betters aspire to imitate. The left knows they would be out on their asses if they actually tried to compel half of America to pay any appreciable amount of income tax, so they print money, which acts as a de facto tax on the poor. It’s still a stickup but it’s one they can get away with easier.


Congrats...

Finally made it out
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:17:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stevelish:

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Originally Posted By stevelish:
Originally Posted By perfectsilence:
Most people in America are substantially undertaxed compared to all of the European nations our betters aspire to imitate. The left knows they would be out on their asses if they actually tried to compel half of America to pay any appreciable amount of income tax, so they print money, which acts as a de facto tax on the poor. It’s still a stickup but it’s one they can get away with easier.

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“Our betters” was meant to be read as dripping with sarcasm
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:18:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
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This and lower taxes. OP presented a false choice. Lowering taxes (not to zero, of course) allows the pie to grow, and tax revenues increase (re: Laffer Curve). Economic illiterates point to Kansas failing to have this happen when they cut taxes. However, does anyone think that their economy would have improved had taxes remained the same or increased? Orange Man's tax cuts resulted in about a 40% increase in tax revenue. The problem was that he and Congress outspent that.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:18:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
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This, but it will never happen!
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:18:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TexanInOhio4] [#41]
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Originally Posted By eagarminuteman:

lol who printed the money that caused inflation? You think they care?
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That is not what causes inflation.  The fed is behind the curve in response to rising prices.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:19:23 AM EDT
[#42]
Reduce the federal government to only it's constitutional duties, everyone else ... learn to code!

Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:23:44 AM EDT
[#43]
Lol you get both.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:24:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Orion10182011] [#44]
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
The WH has chosen Print.

You do not even notice, except you believe those evil retailers are ripping us off.

More Money for Ukraine means more evil Retailers.
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Where wish we'd quit pissing money away, but seriously 1 trillion is 1 thousand billion.  The billions for Ukraine are couch cushion change compared to the rest of .gov spending...
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:32:05 AM EDT
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If re elected, will raise the fuck out of your taxes and print more money.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:33:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Orion10182011:


Where wish we'd quit pissing money away, but seriously 1 trillion is 1 million billion.  The billions for Ukraine are couch cushion change compared to the rest of .gov spending...
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Did you fail math?  One trillion is 1,000 billion.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:33:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BladedRonin:
Funny cause they are gonna do both, simultaniously. The ruination of America is the goal.
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:34:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BladedRonin:
Funny cause they are gonna do both, simultaniously. The ruination of America is the goal.
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yep, get both. Then when inflation happens, tax that too (Biden wants more capital gains taxes).
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:34:23 AM EDT
[#49]
It is the same thing
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:35:57 AM EDT
[#50]
They have been printing for over 40 years. Taxes aren’t meant to fund the government, they are made to punish people.
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