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Posted: 4/19/2024 7:55:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PewPewPew1212: If they did 500 more then Russia’s losses would begin to approach the losses incurred by the US in this skirmish. "The brave Russian air force shot down 191 new American supplied F35A planes!" Da |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 7:55:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PewPewPew1212: “not one inch eastward” - U.S. Secretary of State James Baker Btw, username checks out Gorbachev: That didn't mean that. Putin: Nations are free to join Nato |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 7:56:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chisum: @yankee43 I doubt you have a clue what the war is about either. If you did you would have said so. We appreciate such keen insight. You should take your own advice. A YouTuber with multiple felonies told him all about the truth. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 7:58:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Keekleberrys: Yikes! hope the crew made it out. The fact that this went over so many people’s heads here is hilarious. Good job. Woooooosh.gif |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:02:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: Looks like a downward ejection system. Better not need that too low. https://i.redd.it/vxrxog77y1z61.png In mother Russia plane ejects from you!!! |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:07:21 AM EDT
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Let Ivan and Igor fight. Just don’t use my great-grandchildren as debt slaves to fund it.
They’d all be better off at home fucking and raising children, but if they do go t the wars of old men, so be it. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:14:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Colt653]
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Posted: 4/19/2024 5:07:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Szilagyi-hpg: How dare you have sympathy for someone Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Szilagyi-hpg: Originally Posted By Keekleberrys: Yikes! hope the crew made it out. How dare you have sympathy for someone Do you have sympathy for the waffen SS? How about the NKVD? GRU? FSB? stasi? Hooray for moral relativism |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 5:22:14 PM EDT
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Goddamm vodka fueled camera work.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 7:04:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Keekleberrys: Yikes! hope the crew made it out. According to Russia, 3 of the 4 survived, unfortunately. However, Russia lies, so all four may be dead (hopefully). |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:26:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: This war is about Russia trying to regain its empire. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By yankee43: Klaus Schwab approves of such sentiments. This war is not about what you think it is about. Do research that doesn’t involve MSM and/or Big Tech, and don’t allow ego and pride to interfere with objectives reasoning. This war is about Russia trying to regain its empire. Did you know nothing has changed in America since it was founded by “old, white, slave-owning men”? No? That’s because this statement is complete bullshit too. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:40:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: yankee43]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: The question I have to ask is did Ukraine shoot it down? I don't think they have the ability to shoot down a strategic bomber hundreds of miles behind the lines launching ALCMs. I also didn't know they had 220km capable modified S200s which were used to shoot down the A50 Awacs. Ol' Volodymr, you surprise me everyday. My cousin was responsible for approximately 8 Russian aircraft going down. Best mechanic the Russian airforce ever had. Don't mention a 6 year old, the Russians will try to come snatch them up, too.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/321437892_497948642403960_10571426804974-3191905.JPG https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1536/cpsprodpb/D7D7/production/_124055255_bucha_analysis_2x640-nc.png Shouldn't execute hundreds of people and call it "liberation". The “Bucha Massacre”? It didn’t happen, unless you’re considering the hundreds of people who were working with/for the Russian Army that were murdered by the Ukranian Army upon their “liberation” They’re all wearing white arm and leg bands, which indicates Russian forces. The only ones not wearing white bands were actors placed and staged for propoganda. There’s video of some of them moving when they’re purportedly dead. There’s at least one other video of the same propoganda trick at another location a month or so earlier. The Mayor of Bucha was interviewed two days before the “massacre” story came out, and he didn’t say anything about a massacre. Whatever news outlet you’re getting your information from is lying to you. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:47:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yankee43: The “Bucha Massacre”? It didn’t happen, unless you’re considering the hundreds of people who were working with/for the Russian Army that were murdered by the Ukranian Army upon their “liberation” They’re all wearing white arm and leg bands, which indicates Russian forces. The only ones not wearing white bands were actors placed and staged for propoganda. There’s video of some of them moving when they’re purportedly dead. There’s at least one other video of the same propoganda trick at another location a month or so earlier. The Mayor of Bucha was interviewed two days before the “massacre” story came out, and he didn’t say anything about a massacre. Whatever news outlet you’re getting your information from is lying to you. Oh, FFS. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:51:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yankee43: The “Bucha Massacre”? It didn’t happen, unless you’re considering the hundreds of people who were working with/for the Russian Army that were murdered by the Ukranian Army upon their “liberation” They’re all wearing white arm and leg bands, which indicates Russian forces. The only ones not wearing white bands were actors placed and staged for propoganda. There’s video of some of them moving when they’re purportedly dead. There’s at least one other video of the same propoganda trick at another location a month or so earlier. The Mayor of Bucha was interviewed two days before the “massacre” story came out, and he didn’t say anything about a massacre. Whatever news outlet you’re getting your information from is lying to you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yankee43: Originally Posted By fadedsun: The question I have to ask is did Ukraine shoot it down? I don't think they have the ability to shoot down a strategic bomber hundreds of miles behind the lines launching ALCMs. I also didn't know they had 220km capable modified S200s which were used to shoot down the A50 Awacs. Ol' Volodymr, you surprise me everyday. My cousin was responsible for approximately 8 Russian aircraft going down. Best mechanic the Russian airforce ever had. Don't mention a 6 year old, the Russians will try to come snatch them up, too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/321437892_497948642403960_10571426804974-3191905.JPG https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1536/cpsprodpb/D7D7/production/_124055255_bucha_analysis_2x640-nc.png Shouldn't execute hundreds of people and call it "liberation". The “Bucha Massacre”? It didn’t happen, unless you’re considering the hundreds of people who were working with/for the Russian Army that were murdered by the Ukranian Army upon their “liberation” They’re all wearing white arm and leg bands, which indicates Russian forces. The only ones not wearing white bands were actors placed and staged for propoganda. There’s video of some of them moving when they’re purportedly dead. There’s at least one other video of the same propoganda trick at another location a month or so earlier. The Mayor of Bucha was interviewed two days before the “massacre” story came out, and he didn’t say anything about a massacre. Whatever news outlet you’re getting your information from is lying to you. Yeah that post some nutty shit even by GD standards. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:12:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By B5Sluggo: Oh, FFS.  Attached FileOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Yeah that post some nutty shit even by GD standards.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:17:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Those cost 200 million each. Good.  Now do 50 more The trained crew is actually a bigger loss than the plane. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:22:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bourbonator: An aircraft built in the 1970s cost $200mm a pop? Doubt. 200 million rubles is around 2.2 millionish dollars. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:05:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: Fucked in a rejected take off.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeFEpFHDNZgQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: Originally Posted By delemorte: Looks like a downward ejection system. Better not need that too low. https://i.redd.it/vxrxog77y1z61.png Fucked in a rejected take off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeFEpFHDNZgThey don't like landing during blizzard whiteouts either:  Russian Tu 22M3 strategic bomber breaks in two\u200b Longer version:  Tu-22M3 crash Longest version:  Tu-22M3 Super Sonic Bomber Breaks in Half |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:18:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Wow, the Camera man did an outstanding job on that.  It certainly looks like more than your everyday mechanical failure. Do they have an ejection capsule or seats or what? The camera man deserves a donkey punch from a drunken aids riddled monkey. If you're going to record something, record it all the goddamn way down to the ground and horizontal. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:25:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yankee43: The “Bucha Massacre”? It didn’t happen, unless you’re considering the hundreds of people who were working with/for the Russian Army that were murdered by the Ukranian Army upon their “liberation” They’re all wearing white arm and leg bands, which indicates Russian forces. The only ones not wearing white bands were actors placed and staged for propoganda. There’s video of some of them moving when they’re purportedly dead. There’s at least one other video of the same propoganda trick at another location a month or so earlier. The Mayor of Bucha was interviewed two days before the “massacre” story came out, and he didn’t say anything about a massacre. Whatever news outlet you’re getting your information from is lying to you. My absolute disgust with GD has hit a new low like holy shit  |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:31:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aguas: Holy geeeeez. As if the US has needed a conspiracy to hate russians. Did you miss the events of the larger part of the 20th century? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aguas: Originally Posted By Rheinmetall792: Chuck Schumer, Klaus Schwab, Soros, et al, want everyone to hate Russians. The last major nation that won't join their cabal. Holy geeeeez. As if the US has needed a conspiracy to hate russians. Did you miss the events of the larger part of the 20th century? The deep irony that someone with the username "Rheinmetall" is supporting that batshit idea... |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:40:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Master_Shake]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SteelonSteel: 200 million rubles is around 2.2 millionish dollars. I threw shade earlier on the $200 million but you aren't even in the ballpark of $2.2 million for a TU-22 Google responses say between $40 to $50 million It's a long range supersonic bomber capable of carrying a nuclear payload. $2.2 may not even cover just the electronics retrofit |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:46:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SmilingBandit]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: I threw shade earlier on the $200 million but you aren't even in the ballpark of $2.2 million for a TU-22 Google responses say between $40 to $50 million It's a long range supersonic bomber capable of carrying a nuclear payload. $2.2 may not even cover just the electronics retrofit Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: Originally Posted By SteelonSteel: 200 million rubles is around 2.2 millionish dollars. I threw shade earlier on the $200 million but you aren't even in the ballpark of $2.2 million for a TU-22 Google responses say between $40 to $50 million It's a long range supersonic bomber capable of carrying a nuclear payload. $2.2 may not even cover just the electronics retrofit Their modernization program is only upgrading about one a year. If it was a Tu22M3 I’d expect the upgrade alone would be worth nearly that. Although since the airframe is at least three decades old, it may mostly be worth the cost of engines and avionics. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:52:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Their modernization program is only upgrading about one a year. If it was a Tu22M3 I’d expect the upgrade alone would be worth nearly that. Although since the airframe is at least three decades old, it may mostly be worth the cost of engines and avionics. If I was at home I could find the video I watched about the reteofit program but it would take me forever on my phone. I'm a little confused by your post though, are you stating a current TU-22 is only $2 million? |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:54:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yankee43: The “Bucha Massacre”? It didn’t happen, unless you’re considering the hundreds of people who were working with/for the Russian Army that were murdered by the Ukranian Army upon their “liberation” They’re all wearing white arm and leg bands, which indicates Russian forces. The only ones not wearing white bands were actors placed and staged for propoganda. There’s video of some of them moving when they’re purportedly dead. There’s at least one other video of the same propoganda trick at another location a month or so earlier. The Mayor of Bucha was interviewed two days before the “massacre” story came out, and he didn’t say anything about a massacre. Whatever news outlet you’re getting your information from is lying to you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yankee43: Originally Posted By fadedsun: The question I have to ask is did Ukraine shoot it down? I don't think they have the ability to shoot down a strategic bomber hundreds of miles behind the lines launching ALCMs. I also didn't know they had 220km capable modified S200s which were used to shoot down the A50 Awacs. Ol' Volodymr, you surprise me everyday. My cousin was responsible for approximately 8 Russian aircraft going down. Best mechanic the Russian airforce ever had. Don't mention a 6 year old, the Russians will try to come snatch them up, too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/321437892_497948642403960_10571426804974-3191905.JPG https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1536/cpsprodpb/D7D7/production/_124055255_bucha_analysis_2x640-nc.png Shouldn't execute hundreds of people and call it "liberation". The “Bucha Massacre”? It didn’t happen, unless you’re considering the hundreds of people who were working with/for the Russian Army that were murdered by the Ukranian Army upon their “liberation” They’re all wearing white arm and leg bands, which indicates Russian forces. The only ones not wearing white bands were actors placed and staged for propoganda. There’s video of some of them moving when they’re purportedly dead. There’s at least one other video of the same propoganda trick at another location a month or so earlier. The Mayor of Bucha was interviewed two days before the “massacre” story came out, and he didn’t say anything about a massacre. Whatever news outlet you’re getting your information from is lying to you. Oh vey... Yes, keep using pro Russian accounts and Infowars, those stellar journalists paid by Alex Jones wai... are they paid anymore? Bucha killings: Satellite image of bodies site contradicts Russian claims Their final moments... (NYT) Caught on Camera, Traced by Phone: The Russian Military Unit That Killed Dozens in Bucha Love letter, ID card point to Russian units that terrorised Bucha You know the thing about actual media companies like Reuters, NYT, BBC... they have actual money to hire researchers and journalists who will go to where the events occurred and get on the ground. Remind us what Alex Jones' YouTube show asks you to do... believe their take on things without actually being there as they rely on a pro-Russian outlets |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:55:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:57:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Master_Shake]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: If I was at home I could find the video I watched about the reteofit program but it would take me forever on my phone. I'm a little confused by your post though, are you stating a current TU-22 is only $2 million? I think the complete retrofits are for the TU-160's and the partial are for the TU-22M3 (just as I'm looking) |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:02:31 PM EDT
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VAMPIRE! VAMPIRE! VAMPIRE! KVAS 3 DEFENDING!
[grunting sounds] KVAS 3 SPLASH VAMPIRE! KVAS 3 IN PATTERN FOR VERTICAL LANDING. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:07:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Wow, the Camera man did an outstanding job on that. Vertical video people.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:09:27 PM EDT
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Whoops
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:12:46 PM EDT
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 Landing bomber Tu-22M3 |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:13:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: If I was at home I could find the video I watched about the reteofit program but it would take me forever on my phone. I'm a little confused by your post though, are you stating a current TU-22 is only $2 million? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Their modernization program is only upgrading about one a year. If it was a Tu22M3 I’d expect the upgrade alone would be worth nearly that. Although since the airframe is at least three decades old, it may mostly be worth the cost of engines and avionics. If I was at home I could find the video I watched about the reteofit program but it would take me forever on my phone. I'm a little confused by your post though, are you stating a current TU-22 is only $2 million? I’m saying $40-60M is still probably low. We say the B-52 is about $114M as a unit cost and they are even older. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:16:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat Soviet green interior. M And their AFE gear just looks terrible. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:17:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yankee43: The “Bucha Massacre”? It didn’t happen, unless you’re considering the hundreds of people who were working with/for the Russian Army that were murdered by the Ukranian Army upon their “liberation” They’re all wearing white arm and leg bands, which indicates Russian forces. The only ones not wearing white bands were actors placed and staged for propoganda. There’s video of some of them moving when they’re purportedly dead. There’s at least one other video of the same propoganda trick at another location a month or so earlier. The Mayor of Bucha was interviewed two days before the “massacre” story came out, and he didn’t say anything about a massacre. Whatever news outlet you’re getting your information from is lying to you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yankee43: Originally Posted By fadedsun: The question I have to ask is did Ukraine shoot it down? I don't think they have the ability to shoot down a strategic bomber hundreds of miles behind the lines launching ALCMs. I also didn't know they had 220km capable modified S200s which were used to shoot down the A50 Awacs. Ol' Volodymr, you surprise me everyday. My cousin was responsible for approximately 8 Russian aircraft going down. Best mechanic the Russian airforce ever had. Don't mention a 6 year old, the Russians will try to come snatch them up, too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/321437892_497948642403960_10571426804974-3191905.JPG https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1536/cpsprodpb/D7D7/production/_124055255_bucha_analysis_2x640-nc.png Shouldn't execute hundreds of people and call it "liberation". The “Bucha Massacre”? It didn’t happen, unless you’re considering the hundreds of people who were working with/for the Russian Army that were murdered by the Ukranian Army upon their “liberation” They’re all wearing white arm and leg bands, which indicates Russian forces. The only ones not wearing white bands were actors placed and staged for propoganda. There’s video of some of them moving when they’re purportedly dead. There’s at least one other video of the same propoganda trick at another location a month or so earlier. The Mayor of Bucha was interviewed two days before the “massacre” story came out, and he didn’t say anything about a massacre. Whatever news outlet you’re getting your information from is lying to you. It’s hard to keep track these days. Are you saying you support the Russian invasion of Ukraine? |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:18:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: That Soviet green interior. M And their AFE gear just looks terrible. Green and turquoise were chosen by Soviet designers because they help to reduce stress and maintain a pilot's effectiveness on long missions. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:18:45 PM EDT
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Damn, that was a slow, scary ride down.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:23:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WinstonSmith: How's that even happen that a plane like that goes into a dead flat spiral like a frisbee? He flew through Ivan's jet wash |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:24:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Vertical video people. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Wow, the Camera man did an outstanding job on that. Vertical video people. I didn’t say it was perfect, but my expectations are very low these days. He got some amazing footage. It’s not every day you see a plane like that, flat spinning down with one turning, and the rest burning. At least It wasn’t ruined with shrieking or.. OMGOMFGOMFGOMFG, or AllaahakbarallahachbarLULULULU |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:30:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WinstonSmith: How's that even happen that a plane like that goes into a dead flat spiral like a frisbee? It was fully stalled, and it sounded like they had power on one side. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:40:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kudzu630: Oh vey... Yes, keep using pro Russian accounts and Infowars, those stellar journalists paid by Alex Jones wai... are they paid anymore? Bucha killings: Satellite image of bodies site contradicts Russian claims Their final moments... (NYT) Caught on Camera, Traced by Phone: The Russian Military Unit That Killed Dozens in Bucha Love letter, ID card point to Russian units that terrorised Bucha You know the thing about actual media companies like Reuters, NYT, BBC... they have actual money to hire researchers and journalists who will go to where the events occurred and get on the ground. Remind us what Alex Jones' YouTube show asks you to do... believe their take on things without actually being there as they rely on a pro-Russian outlets Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kudzu630: Originally Posted By yankee43: Originally Posted By fadedsun: The question I have to ask is did Ukraine shoot it down? I don't think they have the ability to shoot down a strategic bomber hundreds of miles behind the lines launching ALCMs. I also didn't know they had 220km capable modified S200s which were used to shoot down the A50 Awacs. Ol' Volodymr, you surprise me everyday. My cousin was responsible for approximately 8 Russian aircraft going down. Best mechanic the Russian airforce ever had. Don't mention a 6 year old, the Russians will try to come snatch them up, too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/321437892_497948642403960_10571426804974-3191905.JPG https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1536/cpsprodpb/D7D7/production/_124055255_bucha_analysis_2x640-nc.png Shouldn't execute hundreds of people and call it "liberation". The “Bucha Massacre”? It didn’t happen, unless you’re considering the hundreds of people who were working with/for the Russian Army that were murdered by the Ukranian Army upon their “liberation” They’re all wearing white arm and leg bands, which indicates Russian forces. The only ones not wearing white bands were actors placed and staged for propoganda. There’s video of some of them moving when they’re purportedly dead. There’s at least one other video of the same propoganda trick at another location a month or so earlier. The Mayor of Bucha was interviewed two days before the “massacre” story came out, and he didn’t say anything about a massacre. Whatever news outlet you’re getting your information from is lying to you. Oh vey... Yes, keep using pro Russian accounts and Infowars, those stellar journalists paid by Alex Jones wai... are they paid anymore? Bucha killings: Satellite image of bodies site contradicts Russian claims Their final moments... (NYT) Caught on Camera, Traced by Phone: The Russian Military Unit That Killed Dozens in Bucha Love letter, ID card point to Russian units that terrorised Bucha You know the thing about actual media companies like Reuters, NYT, BBC... they have actual money to hire researchers and journalists who will go to where the events occurred and get on the ground. Remind us what Alex Jones' YouTube show asks you to do... believe their take on things without actually being there as they rely on a pro-Russian outlets 
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:42:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: I’m saying $40-60M is still probably low. We say the B-52 is about $114M as a unit cost and they are even older. Roger that. We're on the same page |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:16:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By treelow: According to Russia, 3 of the 4 survived, unfortunately. However, Russia lies, so all four may be dead (hopefully). Nobody that rode that in survived. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:29:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: K5FAL]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PewPewPew1212: “not one inch eastward” - U.S. Secretary of State James Baker Btw, username checks out Well, Eastern Europe is tired of being Russia’s serfs. What do you expect them to do? Rollover? Maybe if the Russians weren’t such evil assholes to the Ukrainians (like starving 10 million of them during the Holodomor, or building a shitty reactor that melted down in their territory, or invading their neighbors all the time), they wouldn’t be hated so much. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:38:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K5FAL: Well, Eastern Europe is tired of being Russia’s serfs. What do you expect them to do? Rollover? Maybe if the Russians weren’t such evil assholes to the Ukrainians (like starving 10 million of them during the Holodomor, or building a shitty reactor that melted down in their territory, or invading their neighbors all the time), they wouldn’t be hated so much. If you go back far enough you'll find few in Eastern Europe haven't played the role of evil assholes |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:39:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K5FAL: Well, Eastern Europe is tired of being Russia’s serfs. What do you expect them to do? Rollover? Maybe if the Russians weren’t such evil assholes to the Ukrainians (like starving 10 million of them during the Holodomor, or building a shitty reactor that melted down in their territory, or invading their neighbors all the time), they wouldn’t be hated so much. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K5FAL: Originally Posted By PewPewPew1212: “not one inch eastward” - U.S. Secretary of State James Baker Btw, username checks out Well, Eastern Europe is tired of being Russia’s serfs. What do you expect them to do? Rollover? Maybe if the Russians weren’t such evil assholes to the Ukrainians (like starving 10 million of them during the Holodomor, or building a shitty reactor that melted down in their territory, or invading their neighbors all the time), they wouldn’t be hated so much. All the Putinites constantly complain about “corrupt Ukraine” while missing the obvious irony: if they are so corrupt, Putin could have Bought influence, if he had the patience. But he chose military conquest. This is a murderous War he started. Russia will be hated for generations. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:43:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yankee43: The “Bucha Massacre”? It didn’t happen, unless you’re considering the hundreds of people who were working with/for the Russian Army that were murdered by the Ukranian Army upon their “liberation” They’re all wearing white arm and leg bands, which indicates Russian forces. The only ones not wearing white bands were actors placed and staged for propoganda. There’s video of some of them moving when they’re purportedly dead. There’s at least one other video of the same propoganda trick at another location a month or so earlier. The Mayor of Bucha was interviewed two days before the “massacre” story came out, and he didn’t say anything about a massacre. Whatever news outlet you’re getting your information from is lying to you. lol wow, a live one |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 1:12:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yankee43: Klaus Schwab approves of such sentiments. This war is not about what you think it is about. Do research that doesn’t involve MSM and/or Big Tech, and don’t allow ego and pride to interfere with objectives reasoning. I believe fadedsun has Ukrainian ancestry. I know people from Ukraine who have been personally, directly affected by this war. For some of us, this is more personal than for others, and our emotions come more into play, which will of course affect the comments people make. I care very much for the people I know from Ukraine. As time has gone on, I have cooled down some, but I think it's important that people understand where some of us are coming from. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 1:17:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aguas: Holy geeeeez. As if the US has needed a conspiracy to hate russians. Did you miss the events of the larger part of the 20th century? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aguas: Originally Posted By Rheinmetall792: Chuck Schumer, Klaus Schwab, Soros, et al, want everyone to hate Russians. The last major nation that won't join their cabal. Holy geeeeez. As if the US has needed a conspiracy to hate russians. Did you miss the events of the larger part of the 20th century? Holy fuck, you folks are so programmed, it's pathetic. It's like the fall of the Soviet Union, Perestroika, and Glastnost never happened for you folks. How do you just magically erase the fall of the entire nation, the conversion to a crony Capitalist, Federal Republic, and 20 years of cooperation with the West (up to the point the West and in particular the UK and the US were taken over by the Global Elites)? |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 1:25:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PewPewPew1212: “not one inch eastward” - U.S. Secretary of State James Baker Btw, username checks out When Russia attacked it, Ukraine was not, and it has never been a NATO member. Even if that promise was broken, why should the population of Ukraine have to suffer for it? |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 1:29:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Taom:  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Taom: Originally Posted By Keekleberrys: Yikes! hope the crew made it out. Some people don’t understand that the whole purpose of mortal combat is to kill the enemy. |
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