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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:52:20 PM EDT
My cat has only murder on his mind.
Bezos Earth Fund is giving $60 million toward revamping alternative proteins A review of the signatories on this declaration indicates most of the expertise is in philosophy, psychology, and environmental studies. The group asserts that a wide array of species, including lobsters, fish, octopi, and insects, can experience elements of consciousness and sentience. First, there is strong scientific support for attributions of conscious experience to other mammals and to birds. Second, the empirical evidence indicates at least a realistic possibility of conscious experience in all vertebrates (including reptiles, amphibians, and fishes) and many invertebrates (including, at minimum, cephalopod mollusks, decapod crustaceans, and insects). Third, when there is a realistic possibility of conscious experience in an animal, it is irresponsible to ignore that possibility in decisions affecting that animal. We should consider welfare risks and use the evidence to inform our responses to these risks. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:56:19 PM EDT
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But 64 miillion abortions are just fine. Right up until birth.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:58:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Just like the popplers
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NS, CAN
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:59:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By intheburbs: But 64 miillion abortions are just fine. Right up until birth. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:59:39 PM EDT
[#4]
These are prob the same ppl who pushed Covid...Ill make good eye contact with the fish and octopi before I eat their yummy yummy bodies...
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:01:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:02:24 PM EDT
[#6]
In that case I shall eat scientists!
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:02:48 PM EDT
[#7]
Eventually we will believe that fungus are the biggest consciousnesses on this planet - and that trees have feelings.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:04:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:05:44 PM EDT
[#9]
I mean, okay, I can get behind that I guess.
But I've seen bugs fly straight into campfires and burn to death, so I'm not really too impressed. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:06:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By intheburbs: But 64 miillion abortions are just fine. Right up until birth. 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:06:08 PM EDT
[#11]
Fuck off Bezos. Fuck right the fuck off!
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:06:44 PM EDT
[#12]
So do cows, pigs, chickens. Doesn’t stop me from eating them.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:07:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DDDDCheapAF]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By intheburbs: But 64 miillion abortions are just fine. Right up until birth. Lol . Can we use abortions as bait ? They dont have any feelings, right ? |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:07:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouncilOfDave: I mean, okay, I can get behind that I guess. But I've seen bugs fly straight into campfires and burn to death, so I'm not really too impressed. They were protesting genocide in Gaza, obviously. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:09:00 PM EDT
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For critters, cephalopods have demonstrated some level of “intelligence” this is nothing new. Organisms with far simpler central nervous systems like arthropods and insects? Yea, I’m calling BS a on that. I’ve never read anything that suggests they have ANY measurable intelligence
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:11:03 PM EDT
[#16]
I have no doubt that cephalopods are sentient and they are also aware that we are as well.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:11:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax: They were protesting genocide in Gaza, obviously. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax: Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave: I mean, okay, I can get behind that I guess. But I've seen bugs fly straight into campfires and burn to death, so I'm not really too impressed. They were protesting genocide in Gaza, obviously.  Seems to be about the same amount of cognitive ability. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:11:50 PM EDT
[#18]
I don't care if they have consciousness. They taste good so I eat them
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:12:37 PM EDT
[#19]
I've signed multiple declarations proclaiming fish and lobster to be delicious. I always called them "receipts."
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:13:20 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmw: I have no doubt that cephalopods are sentient and they are also aware that we are as well. Octopus and squid are reputed to have the same cognitive abilities as a cat |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:13:39 PM EDT
[#21]
First, there is strong scientific support for attributions of conscious experience to other mammals and to birds.
Birds arent real bro everyone knows that. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:15:13 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mikhail_86: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91757/IMG_6457_jpeg-3197130.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mikhail_86: Originally Posted By brachiosaur: Just like the popplers https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91757/IMG_6457_jpeg-3197130.JPG If a little fried shrimp looking thing was going to develop into something that could and would eat me alive in one bite it would seem to make sense to eat them. Hell, I might be okay with irradiating and virus bombing their planets. Followed by extensive and horrifying scientific experiments on them at all stages of development to ensure that their very DNA was expunged from everywhere in the universe except maximum security laboratory facilities. But no that doesn't happen because the creators of that fictional universe are a pack of liberal pussys and "herp derp! Nixon has been dead for decades but he's still our nemesis! Derp!" |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:15:22 PM EDT
[#23]
Then it's all a matter of definition.
Mine is that any animal that refrains from eating other animals and can fill out a form requesting that i not eat it, I will refrain from eating. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:17:33 PM EDT
[#24]
I know plenty of humans who aren't really conscious.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:18:03 PM EDT
[#25]
Bald faced hornets have ground and air combat training. Scouts will watch every move you make and call in air support when needed.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:18:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Octopus and squid are reputed to have the same cognitive abilities as a cat so are you saying I can't eat pussy anymore? |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:20:59 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By intheburbs: But 64 miillion abortions are just fine. Right up until birth. Even after here in Virginia. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:23:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:24:31 PM EDT
[#29]
I'm worried the elite's bugs will become endangered
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:25:38 PM EDT
[#30]
I’m will continue to consume beef, chicken, fish, and pork. Can’t stop. Won’t stop.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:25:42 PM EDT
[#31]
Originally Posted By 15jonshoot: ...including lobsters, fish, octopi, and insects, can experience elements of consciousness and sentience. Does this mean we cannot eat ze bugs? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:25:50 PM EDT
[#32]
Oh, for the love of…
Can these vegan cockwits just fuck off, already? Sentient shellfish… What’s next, intelligent insects? Evil goldfish? Talking turds? |
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NS, CAN
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:28:08 PM EDT
[#33]
Well if lobsters were intelligent you would think they would have learned not to crawl into lobster traps by now
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:29:03 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Octopus and squid are reputed to have the same cognitive abilities as a cat Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Originally Posted By cmw: I have no doubt that cephalopods are sentient and they are also aware that we are as well. Octopus and squid are reputed to have the same cognitive abilities as a cat Think I remember reading a theory that cephalopods originate from another planet, something to do with their evolutionary background. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:30:14 PM EDT
[#35]
Good. I want spiders to know why they're being executed for entering my domain illegally.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:30:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: If a little fried shrimp looking thing was going to develop into something that could and would eat me alive in one bite it would seem to make sense to eat them. Hell, I might be okay with irradiating and virus bombing their planets. Followed by extensive and horrifying scientific experiments on them at all stages of development to ensure that their very DNA was expunged from everywhere in the universe except maximum security laboratory facilities. But no that doesn't happen because the creators of that fictional universe are a pack of liberal pussys and "herp derp! Nixon has been dead for decades but he's still our nemesis! Derp!" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By Mikhail_86: Originally Posted By brachiosaur: Just like the popplers https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91757/IMG_6457_jpeg-3197130.JPG If a little fried shrimp looking thing was going to develop into something that could and would eat me alive in one bite it would seem to make sense to eat them. Hell, I might be okay with irradiating and virus bombing their planets. Followed by extensive and horrifying scientific experiments on them at all stages of development to ensure that their very DNA was expunged from everywhere in the universe except maximum security laboratory facilities. But no that doesn't happen because the creators of that fictional universe are a pack of liberal pussys and "herp derp! Nixon has been dead for decades but he's still our nemesis! Derp!" I'm all for nuking the fookin prawns |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:30:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Swoosh101]
[#37]
 FU(K YOU DOLPHIN |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:31:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mikhail_86: so are you saying I can't eat pussy anymore? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mikhail_86: Originally Posted By cyclone: Octopus and squid are reputed to have the same cognitive abilities as a cat so are you saying I can't eat pussy anymore? Not at all......but they will be aware of your intentions...plan accordingly |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:33:11 PM EDT
[#39]
Octopi is grammatically incorrect.
The correct plural of octopus is octopodes. Octopuses is also acceptable. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:35:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 56xdx_Z]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Octopus and squid are reputed to have the same cognitive abilities as a cat that must suck for species that are intelligent but live in the ocean and are small enough that most of them live to get eaten eventually. Did not know that squid were intelligent |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:44:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: that must suck for species that are intelligent but live in the ocean and are small enough that most of them live to get eaten eventually. Did not know that squid were intelligent Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By cyclone: Octopus and squid are reputed to have the same cognitive abilities as a cat that must suck for species that are intelligent but live in the ocean and are small enough that most of them live to get eaten eventually. Did not know that squid were intelligent At least one science fiction author has posited engineering squid into astronauts. Hopefully they prove more trustworthy than Omicronians. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:47:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Octopus and squid are reputed to have the same cognitive abilities as a cat I think that is a very low estimate. We still manage to struggle at 'measuring' the intelligence of humans - doing so across phyla is a whole other matter. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:48:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Are they telling me it’s not okay to eat fish because they have feelings?
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:57:46 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax: In that case I shall eat scientists! Only if they look like Sophia Loren or equivalent. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:59:16 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kzin: Then it's all a matter of definition. Mine is that any animal that refrains from eating other animals and can fill out a form requesting that i not eat it, I will refrain from eating. If you go to court the cross examination would be interesting. Hey horse, quit shitting on the floor and answer the question. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:17:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: that must suck for species that are intelligent but live in the ocean and are small enough that most of them live to get eaten eventually. Did not know that squid were intelligent Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By cyclone: Octopus and squid are reputed to have the same cognitive abilities as a cat that must suck for species that are intelligent but live in the ocean and are small enough that most of them live to get eaten eventually. Did not know that squid were intelligent I watched a video of one in an aquarium that had become quite the practical joker.....anytime someone set a bag down near its tank, it would squirt salt water into the bag, then watch the owner pick up the bag They are also adept at using tools and opening bottles and jars to get to food inside |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:20:54 PM EDT
[#47]
They're still tasty.
Is this how we normalize cannibalism? Just another kind of "consciousness?" |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:21:52 PM EDT
[#48]
Still more than commies have. And at least fish, lobsters and octopi can be delicious.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:29:50 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SideSwipeYa: Are they telling me it’s not okay to eat fish because they have feelings? They're saying you should be living off of grass and the drippings from the ceiling. But I have no conscience that they are conscious. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:35:16 PM EDT
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Like most issues we're psyop'd into, the truth usually isn't a binary choice. Aquinas wrote about the difference of souls in the 13th century, and it's pretty spot on. Put simply, you have humans that are rational, animals which react to stimuli, and plants which clearly are living but can't convey things to us or exhibit any sort of emotion.
Killing animals humanely is a part of every major world religion. So we've known this for a very long time. What these trash psyops are trying to get you to do, is ignore the fact you eat dead animals that were killed so you could eat, and pretend a shittier animal should die so you can eat. It's just such trash. LBJ legit lied about eggs to hide fiscal policy, and NPR bragged about it. These fucking people are preying on you not being normal, and trying to make not normal more common. Direct source for egg claim These people only care about power and control. They do not care about your health, and their false concern for animals is a convenient guise to hide their true intentions. Also we need to end central banking |
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