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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:57:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Action45]
Fuck me running, seems like almost everything is out of stock. Wanted to buy an Occulus and an R9 this week. What a pain
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:59:17 PM EDT
[#1]
Same. Seems the quick turnarounds have completely emptied inventories. Silencershop is looking pretty bare throughout.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:59:58 PM EDT
[#2]
Sorry, your not my type
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:00:14 AM EDT
[#3]
Originally Posted By Action45: Fuck me running, seems like almost everything is out of stock. Wanted to buy an Occulus and an R9 this week. What a pain |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:00:43 AM EDT
[#4]
Yup. I want an intergral 10/22 barrel. I might get one made locally.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:02:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By right_rudder: Sorry, your not my type I’m everyone’s type 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:04:05 AM EDT
[#6]
I picked up two R9s and decided to get a can for my .50
Salad days. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:04:37 AM EDT
[#7]
Originally Posted By Action45: Fuck me running, seems like almost everything is out of stock. Wanted to buy an Occulus and an R9 this week. What a pain I’ve been looking for an R9 for months. Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By Action45: Fuck me running, seems like almost everything is out of stock. Wanted to buy an Occulus and an R9 this week. What a pain My last one(bought at the end of March) was a bit less than 72hrs. Certified another today, hopefully I’ll have it by the weekend. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:04:54 AM EDT
[#8]
Be patient. Since the wait times dropped, everyone is sold out. My inside information is 3 months until stock catches up to demand.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:10:07 AM EDT
[#9]
I find it interesting that 3 months after shotshow the major manufacturers have sold out their inventory for the quarter
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:12:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RRA_223: I picked up two R9s and decided to get a can for my .50 Salad days. What can did you go with for the .50? |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:15:20 AM EDT
[#11]
I bought two a few weeks back and one was on backorder. Now I've got the serial# and proceeding.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:19:07 AM EDT
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Silencer Shop and Capitol Armory are local to me, and I decided that after ten years of no stamps I needed another. I set email notifications for both outfits because neither had the can I wanted in stock. It took a couple weeks but CA notified me.
I purchased the can last week. CA red tape is taking longer than I expected. I’m done with my legwork, so crossing fingers CA submits to FBATF this week and I get my can within a couple weeks. Oh, individual Form 4. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:22:43 AM EDT
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I'm still waiting on 2 on a trust I submitted the forms for last August.
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:24:04 AM EDT
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There isn't a shortage of muffler pipe and washers, now is there?
 I bought a bushwhacker from my favorite local dealer, it had a surprisingly good price (new old stock, i'm guessing, with a pre-inflation price?) Not even sure what all I'm going to put it on. I just wanted to experience the thrill of a 2 day to 2 week turnaround. All of this salad days gun/suppressor business is making me even sadder about the ammo market. Lead and copper are off their 2022 highs, but given the world situation it's not a surprise that finished ammo is up bigly. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:25:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By harrymank: What can did you go with for the .50? AWC titanium. Not the quietest - but lightest. 4 pounds is "light".
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:38:47 AM EDT
[#16]
If you find something you want don’t wait cause it won’t be there tomorrow.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:40:55 AM EDT
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This just shows how the former government speedbump factory was working in restraint of trade. Criminal.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:56:44 AM EDT
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I resorted to buying a used can, for the first time ever.
Never thought I'd see the day where most everything is sold out, for silencers. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:58:46 AM EDT
[#19]
I did my part!
When my MP5 SD can came back in 24 hours, I said to myself, "Self, dang it, you should buy another one!"  Rugged Obsidian was in stock at the time. Took 2 weeks for the form 3, 2 more weeks dicking around with it sitting on the shelf at my dealer, and another 24 hour approval. Salad days indeed. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:35:28 AM EDT
[#20]
Yeah one of my local shops keeps all the pending approval cans in a secured room. Normally there is 30-40 on a shelf waiting for approvals.
I got a peak into it about two weeks ago and there is 400+ cans stacked in there. And that’s even with the crazy fast turn overs. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:39:24 AM EDT
[#21]
Took 4 days for my form 4 approval,individual not a trust.
Used Capital Armory for the first time their system/support ROCKS. Previous pistol cans took 14mos when big (zero) was in office. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:51:10 AM EDT
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Just got a 338 ultra yesterday !
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:51:45 AM EDT
[#23]
was thinking the same thing. trying to buy a deadair wolfman for my SP5 and its OOS for ever.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:56:04 AM EDT
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How long are Trusts taking compared to individual?
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:57:25 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ljh824: was thinking the same thing. trying to buy a deadair wolfman for my SP5 and its OOS for ever. I lucked in to a Wolfman at my local shop 2 weeks ago, did the Form 4 as soon as I saw it in the case. 48 hours for the approval. Swapped the direct thread for a 3 lug adapter. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:05:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ljh824: was thinking the same thing. trying to buy a deadair wolfman for my SP5 and its OOS for ever. do it. i’ve got the same gun and can, shoots like a charm. i love it. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:16:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BayEagle: How long are Trusts taking compared to individual? Quicker than usual, but relatively unchanged in my experience. It's still taking mostly weeks/months for trusts while individual is currently days/weeks. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:22:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ajek]
[#28]
I got lucky with one in stock at a local shop.
I back ordered another one with SS 3 1/2 weeks ago. I’m hopeful that it will get assigned by the end next month. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:25:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc_Zox: I find it interesting that 3 months after shotshow the major manufacturers have sold out their inventory for the quarter It is like the Obama .22 shortage. Manufacturers make X amount for Y consumption. When Consumption goes to Z there is not enough supply. Given the fickle nature of consumers and the law surrounding anything gun, most companies are hesitant to expand production for fear of getting left holding the bag. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:26:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:28:15 AM EDT
[#31]
2 day turnaround on my Obsidian 9 last month. Individual
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:42:18 AM EDT
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Did any one else feel kinda slimy when registering on eforms.atf.gov? I almost felt sick after.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:47:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By home_alone1: Just got a 338 ultra yesterday ! Nice. Got mine last month |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:50:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By majg1234: Took 4 days for my form 4 approval,individual not a trust. Used Capital Armory for the first time their system/support ROCKS. Previous pistol cans took 14mos when big (zero) was in office. So now it’s a week for approval, but 14 months for one to be ‘in stock’. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:51:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLookingGlass: Did any one else feel kinda slimy when registering on eforms.atf.gov? I almost felt sick after. At this point the more silencers and SBRs in private hands the better. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:56:38 AM EDT
[#36]
Yeah, be patient. At some point the market will get saturated and we gun people will have way more suppressors than we have a spare $1000 to tie up on another can.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:17:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TarzanT: So now it’s a week for approval, but 14 months for one to be ‘in stock’. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TarzanT: Originally Posted By majg1234: Took 4 days for my form 4 approval,individual not a trust. Used Capital Armory for the first time their system/support ROCKS. Previous pistol cans took 14mos when big (zero) was in office. So now it’s a week for approval, but 14 months for one to be ‘in stock’. The market will adapt, suppressors are relatively cheap and easy to make. Existing manufacturers will add capacity and new manufacturers will fill whatever void is left. I think we’ll also see a shift in what kind of suppressors are offered. The $200 stamp is still a barrier to entry and skews the value proposition for “cheap” cans but that $200 is less and less expensive every day. Instead of overbuilt, heavy cans rated for 50,000rds of full auto I think we’ll see cheaper constructed, light weight, almost disposable suppressors gaining popularity. I’m imagining an inconel or stainless blast baffle as the serialized part then a cheap baffle stack in an extruded tube with some slummy looking welds that could be replaced by the manufacture(or not). When a replacement can be had in a couple days vs many months the cost to replace goes way down. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:25:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ThornBooger]
[#38]
I just bought the last Paragon 9 in stock in my area, primarily because it was actually in stock. I was initially looking for something 3D printed with flow-through design but they were all on backorder.
What I'd really like to understand is why are NFA Trust approvals taking so much longer than individual purchasers?!?! 
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:28:51 AM EDT
[#39]
CA is regularly updated its stock through a thread in the Armory -> Suppressors sub
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:59:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThornBooger: I just bought the last Paragon 9 in stock in my area, primarily because it was actually in stock. I was initially looking for something 3D printed with flow-through design but they were all on backorder. What I'd really like to understand is why are NFA Trust approvals taking so much longer than individual purchasers?!?! The trusts are still reviewed manually for compliance. As an individual if the background check comes through clean they push it straight through automatically(the way it should have always been done imo) |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:16:20 AM EDT
[#41]
We’ve sold more suppressors in the last month these probably the last 4 combined
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Posted: 4/17/2024 10:01:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DefenderAO: CA is regularly updated its stock through a thread in the Armory -> Suppressors sub @DefenderAO assuming Capitol Armory is good to go? Have a couple items in a cart on their site. These will be my first suppressors, form 4 individual. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 10:07:10 AM EDT
[#43]
It’s to be expected with the wait times dropping.
Capitol has a thread in the silencer section if you don’t already know. Here |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 10:08:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Glocked]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: @DefenderAO assuming Capitol Armory is good to go? Have a couple items in a cart on their site. These will be my first suppressors, form 4 individual. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: Originally Posted By DefenderAO: CA is regularly updated its stock through a thread in the Armory -> Suppressors sub @DefenderAO assuming Capitol Armory is good to go? Have a couple items in a cart on their site. These will be my first suppressors, form 4 individual. They’re excellent. The little bit of time added for the to your door process averages about the same as the upfront weight with Silencershop for me. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 10:10:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Glocked]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThornBooger: I just bought the last Paragon 9 in stock in my area, primarily because it was actually in stock. I was initially looking for something 3D printed with flow-through design but they were all on backorder. What I'd really like to understand is why are NFA Trust approvals taking so much longer than individual purchasers?!?! Trust submissions require a human Legal Instrument Examiner to review them. Individuals can be totally automated. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 10:14:25 AM EDT
[#46]
Guy that works for me just bought his first can. Certified yesterday and already had approval back this morning.
I thought I was going to be buying some after seeing that. Logged onto SilencerShop and there were some like 9 cans out of of 94 instock for 5.56, nothing of which I wanted. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 10:30:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glocked: They’re excellent. The little bit of time added for the to your door process averages about the same as the upfront weight with Silencershop for me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glocked: Originally Posted By Action45: Originally Posted By DefenderAO: CA is regularly updated its stock through a thread in the Armory -> Suppressors sub @DefenderAO assuming Capitol Armory is good to go? Have a couple items in a cart on their site. These will be my first suppressors, form 4 individual. They’re excellent. The little bit of time added for the to your door process averages about the same as the upfront weight with Silencershop for me. Yep, top notch |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 10:44:54 AM EDT
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does anyone have any experience Silencer Central? I thought I was doing a form 4 because everyone said that was the quick turn around. Theirs said form 4 but also asked for someone elses name for a trust. I put my wifes name. It didnt ask any other info about my wife. So I'm not exactly sure what it is. This is my first time with a stamp, its been a month (I know isnt long compared to old wait times). I just thought it would be faster. Anyways they said that was the only way they did theirs. Just wondering if I should try another place while I wait or is it some hang up because its my first? possibly something showing up on my record?
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Posted: 4/17/2024 10:58:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Goosemaster: Yup. I want an intergral 10/22 barrel. I might get one made locally. KFArmory shows they have 3 in stock, might be worth checking them out, I haven't bought from them before. I do have a TSS on my takedown, it's a great integral. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 11:07:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: does anyone have any experience Silencer Central? I thought I was doing a form 4 because everyone said that was the quick turn around. Theirs said form 4 but also asked for someone elses name for a trust. I put my wifes name. It didnt ask any other info about my wife. So I'm not exactly sure what it is. This is my first time with a stamp, its been a month (I know isnt long compared to old wait times). I just thought it would be faster. Anyways they said that was the only way they did theirs. Just wondering if I should try another place while I wait or is it some hang up because its my first? possibly something showing up on my record? If your wife is listed as a trustee and you did not do the responsible person paperwork and finger prints for her its gonna get denied. If they did not ask for the full paperwork on her they fucked up if she is a RP on the trust, if she is just a beneficiary then you should be ok. You need to read the trust. |
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