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Link Posted: 3/23/2024 3:54:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlamTX:
Donald J Fucking Trump
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Didn't take long for the gay beta males to chime in.
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 4:02:06 AM EDT
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Chairman Mao topped both of them combined.

Extra genocide points awarded for all the victims being his own Chinese citizens.
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 4:45:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By delemorte:

only in GD is rooting for Hitler even considered a rational position.

WTF is wrong with you people?
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After all "You" did Vote for the Devil himself OBAMA!!
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 6:28:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mstennes:
Pretty easy, Hitler while he was a delusional psychotic who killed millions, Stalin was a paranoid psychotic who killed allot more millions. He started from the moment he took power until the day he died.
ETA, we are still seeing the effects of Stalin, not so much Hitler.
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Pretty much this.  Hitler was a murderous asshole, but Stalin was a filthy paranoid Marxist who loved his purges.  Marxism/Communism has killed way more worldwide than Hitlers "final solution".  

Stalin's preferred political leanings are still in vogue today as the push for cultural Marxism is strong in the West.  

Link Posted: 3/23/2024 7:36:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


When you look at the hundreds of millions of people murdered, enslaved, or harmed by communism, it’s very clear what is a greater threat

Maybe read up on what life was like, the horror that these..Spiteful mutants unleashed upon people for the “crime” of being. Being better, smarter, more successful in business or life, or love then these fallen creatures who truly believe that if they destroy that which is better they will be the best merely for existing.

It is dynamiting the peaks of human excellence to lift up the absolute swamp of humanity.

Look at the brilliant minds of Germany and look what they produced, electron microscopes, liquid fueled rockets that made it into space, first jet aircraft, changed small arms in many areas (shoulder fired LMG, invented the idea of the Assault Rifle, etc)

Now,what are the achievements of the minds of the Soviet Union again? Ripped off the STG44 and called it an original design (The AK), Ripped off their jet tech and called it there own (The MiG) Ripped off our bomber tech (Tu-4) Ripped off our Atomic Bomb via spies (Fuck you Rosenbergs!) Ripped of the V2 rocket tech (First generation LFRs) notice a trend of copying rather then innovation? Tends to happen when you exterminate those with an IQ above 100 and only allow sub par/party loyalists into universities/positions in defense industries.

Who would have guessed when you wage war on merit and competence you don’t get the benefits of such in society?
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:
Originally Posted By delemorte:

only in GD is rooting for Hitler even considered a rational position.

WTF is wrong with you people?


When you look at the hundreds of millions of people murdered, enslaved, or harmed by communism, it’s very clear what is a greater threat

Maybe read up on what life was like, the horror that these..Spiteful mutants unleashed upon people for the “crime” of being. Being better, smarter, more successful in business or life, or love then these fallen creatures who truly believe that if they destroy that which is better they will be the best merely for existing.

It is dynamiting the peaks of human excellence to lift up the absolute swamp of humanity.

Look at the brilliant minds of Germany and look what they produced, electron microscopes, liquid fueled rockets that made it into space, first jet aircraft, changed small arms in many areas (shoulder fired LMG, invented the idea of the Assault Rifle, etc)

Now,what are the achievements of the minds of the Soviet Union again? Ripped off the STG44 and called it an original design (The AK), Ripped off their jet tech and called it there own (The MiG) Ripped off our bomber tech (Tu-4) Ripped off our Atomic Bomb via spies (Fuck you Rosenbergs!) Ripped of the V2 rocket tech (First generation LFRs) notice a trend of copying rather then innovation? Tends to happen when you exterminate those with an IQ above 100 and only allow sub par/party loyalists into universities/positions in defense industries.

Who would have guessed when you wage war on merit and competence you don’t get the benefits of such in society?



And by choosing Stalin you are tastily suggesting that we joined the wrong side by not siding with the axis. The axis declared war on us, they attacked us. Going to war against the Axis was the correct call no matter what played out after the fact.

Bitching Stalin killed more in the end is only relevant when you consider Hitler was dead and we bombed Japan into submission. During his life Hitler was actively perfecting the means to exterminate whole categories of people.  If you think he was stopping at the jews, Gypsys, poles etc you are high AF. Hitler was a straight up genocidal maniac and fighting him was the correct call and fuck him.

In this train of thought we should have also sided with the Japanese cause they were kicking the shit out of the Chinese at the time and might have prevented the rise of communism in China.

Again ill ask, What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 7:39:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Primecube:


After all "You" did Vote for the Devil himself OBAMA!!
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Originally Posted By Primecube:
Originally Posted By delemorte:

only in GD is rooting for Hitler even considered a rational position.

WTF is wrong with you people?


After all "You" did Vote for the Devil himself OBAMA!!



@Primecube  Not letting that one go are ya

I dont hide from that bit of information. We have all made mistakes in our lives. We all have done some growing up in our lives. It happens.
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 7:48:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlamTX:
Donald J Fucking Trump
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What did Trump do in his 4 years as President that was so bad?

Trump's tenure shines compared to the current occupant.

Link Posted: 3/23/2024 7:53:15 AM EDT
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Maybe you should offer better candidates.
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 8:04:07 AM EDT
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Hitler.  We stopped him.  Nobody stopped Stalin.
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 8:05:49 AM EDT
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This may be a difficult question for republicans, but not for libertarians.
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 10:05:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


So wrong, he tried to invade Poland, he tried to invade Scandinavia, both failed and frankly if it wasn't for our Aid the USSr would have, and frankly, should have imploded.
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Both failed, is the point.  

Without Hitler giving the world a reason to support the USSR, and without the existential threat providing a reason for Stalin to look past political bullshit and actually put people competent people in charge (eventually), the USSR would've struggled on as this comically inept paranoid society until it collapsed.  

WW2 was the only reason the USSR survived as long as it did, and Hitler started WW2 (in the West).  Therefore, Hitler is the greater evil.

I think we're actually in agreement.
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 11:01:35 AM EDT
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Hitler was worse, given the time he would’ve killed more people than Stalin.

I’m not picking either one.
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 11:06:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Honeypot_DMZ:
Hitler. At least he wasn't a commie.
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Hitler was a commie; just not an International one.  
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 3:37:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By delemorte:



And by choosing Stalin you are tastily suggesting that we joined the wrong side by not siding with the axis. The axis declared war on us, they attacked us. Going to war against the Axis was the correct call no matter what played out after the fact.
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Originally Posted By delemorte:



And by choosing Stalin you are tastily suggesting that we joined the wrong side by not siding with the axis. The axis declared war on us, they attacked us. Going to war against the Axis was the correct call no matter what played out after the fact.


You do understand the option of NOT GETTING THE FUCK INVOLVED is always an option, right?

“No matter what played out after the fact”…Nah dude, Eastern Europe being robbed, raped, enslaved and murdered for 45 years, 80 million dead Chinese, and cultural Marxism infecting and killing the West shows the outcome of that war was the worst possible outcome, maybe of all logic based time lines.

We live in a wrong of consequences from the actions of the past. The fact you want us to ignore that fact and horrible outcome of that mistake, that mistake itself the outcome of another pointless, avoidable mistake says a lot about you, none of it good.

Bitching Stalin killed more in the end is only relevant when you consider Hitler was dead and we bombed Japan into submission.


Stalin went ON to kill more, as did Mao who would not have been able to come to power if Stalin did not support him and if not for the Japanese smashing his gang of spiteful mutants…Where are the Boxers when we needed them?

Who helped China become a nuclear power? Thank Uncle Joe.

During his life Hitler was actively perfecting the means to exterminate whole categories of people.  If you think he was stopping at the jews, Gypsys, poles etc you are high AF.
Hitler was a straight up genocidal maniac and fighting him was the correct call and fuck him.


And there it is, your blind belief in this worldview and damn the consequences is why/how the West got here.

America exists for the benefit of the American people, not the interests of other nations or people, nor does its armed forces exist to fight and die in the moralist crusade of era, this idea of “if you don’t want to fight and die in this cause you must support “insert newest incarnation of evil here” is the ultimate expression of narcissistic entitlement, America doesn’t owe the world anything, it’s armed forces owe the world nothing, it’s people owe the world nothing, and we are not obligated to fight and die merely because human nature is as it is.

But nothing. You may not like it but tens of millions are seeing the outcome of this awful event and are coming to conclusions you don’t like, get use to it, it’s only gonna happen more and more.




In this train of thought we should have also sided with the Japanese cause they were kicking the shit out of the Chinese at the time and might have prevented the rise of communism in China.


Again, why do we have to pick ANY side? You start out from a false premise.

Again ill ask, What the fuck is wrong with you people?


We understand what our self interest are and we can make a rational argument, I suggest you try it, but then again thinking is the hardest work there is, which is why few engage upon it.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 3:38:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paul_Sothern:

What did Trump do in his 4 years as President that was so bad?

Trump's tenure shines compared to the current occupant.

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He spoke the truth about not all people or cultures being equal, he did start any major wars, he reduced immigration, he exposed many hostile elements.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 4:01:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Deadtired:
Both failed, is the point.  

Without Hitler giving the world a reason to support the USSR, and without the existential threat providing a reason for Stalin to look past political bullshit and actually put people competent people in charge (eventually), the USSR would've struggled on as this comically inept paranoid society until it collapsed.  

WW2 was the only reason the USSR survived as long as it did, and Hitler started WW2 (in the West).  Therefore, Hitler is the greater evil.

I think we're actually in agreement.
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Giving the world a reason, or the financial powers of the Western world a reason? They are NOT one and the same my friend.

Also later that same month…The USSR ALSO invaded Poland, failed never mind tried to invade Finland twice, never min all their other expeditions into China, Afghanistan, (the one in 1930) and all of manner of invasions

So why do you ignore the existing evidence of communist expansionism?

Hell it started in 1923…A full decade before Hitler comes to power, never mind funding terrorism and communists groups the world over since 1919.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 4:23:31 AM EDT
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Polls like this is why we have the 2nd.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 5:01:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shinji_Ikari:
Polls like this is why we have the 2nd.
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Death tolls like Stalin and other communists are also a good reason.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 5:10:04 AM EDT
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Rothschilds got away with everything.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 6:12:06 AM EDT
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*weavils
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 6:42:12 AM EDT
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Neither, because it's a false dialectic giving you the illusion of choice. Both results would get you the same consequence.
Ruled by a psychopathic occult priest class.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 7:20:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By talontsi_95:


But a 3rd party vote is a vote for Hitler. Or is is Stalin? Damnit now I'm confused.
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Originally Posted By AlamTX:
Donald J Fucking Trump


But a 3rd party vote is a vote for Hitler. Or is is Stalin? Damnit now I'm confused.


Except on Tuesdays.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 8:16:22 AM EDT
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Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling. If I am to choose between one evil and another… I’d rather not choose at all.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 8:21:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TARFUN:
In the grand scheme, Hitler killed fewer people.
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But Hitler killed other countries’ people.  Stalin just killed his own.  Nobody would say shit about Hitler if he put 6 million Aryans in the oven.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 8:26:03 AM EDT
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I vote for neither. Fuck Hitler & fuck Stalin.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 10:06:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


Hitler killed 12 million, Stalin, 66-70, if you include helping China become communist its easily another 60-80 million for 150 million tops, and 1.2 Billion enslaved.

More over the west isn’t being destroyed by Hitlers worldview, it’s being killed by Cultural Marxism, funded and aided by Communists in the USSR, had the Germans snuffed out that den of international criminality and Terrorism communism would have been smothered in crib and millions of lives saved that otherwise would be lost to the lie of impossible equality and the poisonous ideology in our culture and institutions would never have been granted the cover of  Legitimacy and it would have been casted out as the threat it very clearly is.
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And what people fail to remember is that, before going bonkers due to Crohn’s disease and meth from his quack doctor, hitler was damned good for germany, he took it from the sorriest, beaten down shithole in europe to a military and industrial powerhouse that fought the rest of europe, and russia, to a standstill. Without US lend-lease, he would’ve taken europe entirely.

I would contend that, had he not succumbed to madness, he would be remembered quite differently. And the map of europe would have very different lines across it.

Now, onto the rather funny little bit that folks don’t like to talk about, he didn’t start out murdering all the jews. He sought to deport them first, and no other country would take them. Funny how nobody likes to mention that little tidbit, along with the fact that FDR ensured the US refused to take in jewish refugees. Funny how that’s not in the public school history books, huh?

As for stalin… The US jumped headlong into the european theatre far too soon. IMO, we should’ve kept western europe on the defensive and waited until germany finished grinding the damned commies to paste, it would’ve saved us, and the rest of the world, from the cancer of marxism.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 10:27:33 AM EDT
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Stalin caused more deaths than Hitler, however he had thirty years in power compared to Hitler who had 12 years.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 10:40:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bellows1:

It's pretty fucking sad when your literally hitler and your not the worst guy in history... not even the worst guy in the 20th century, not even the worst guy in WW2.

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Originally Posted By Bellows1:
Originally Posted By TARFUN:
In the grand scheme, Hitler killed fewer people.

It's pretty fucking sad when your literally hitler and your not the worst guy in history... not even the worst guy in the 20th century, not even the worst guy in WW2.



Mao would like a word.

The hammer and sickle, or just the Red Star of communism, should be viewed with as much disgust and disdain to the wearer as a Nazi swastika, yet it never works out that way.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 3:25:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CommonwealthKid:
Rothschilds got away with everything.
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So far…Remember, 100 trillion in wealth can do many things, it can’t stop a hellfire missile from flying into the window and ruining your eyes wide shut party.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 3:28:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jwr6:


But Hitler killed other countries’ people.  Stalin just killed his own.  Nobody would say shit about Hitler if he put 6 million Aryans in the oven.
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Ah..My dude, learn history then comment on it. Stalin killed many other countries population, he was just really bad at it without others doing the heavy lifting
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 2:57:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wineraner:


Mao would like a word.

The hammer and sickle, or just the Red Star of communism, should be viewed with as much disgust and disdain to the wearer as a Nazi swastika, yet it never works out that way.
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Because the communists infected us in the 1930s after they fled from Germany.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:01:34 PM EDT
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If the measurement of evil is body count alone, then Hitler is less evil than Stalin.
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Originally Posted By jwr6:


But Hitler killed other countries’ people.  Stalin just killed his own.  Nobody would say shit about Hitler if he put 6 million Aryans in the oven.
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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:17:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1975:
Stalin killed far more with his gulag system, purge and holodomor.
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True, but as a minority I'd get a free train ride to camp.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:18:49 PM EDT
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Hitler killed Hitler
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:24:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By talontsi_95:
Who do you pick?

Hitler or Stalin?
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Stalin killed my GreatGrandparents (holodmor)... Hitler only didn't kill as many people as Stalin because his career got cut short.

Biden wants to kill people like me...

Collectivism kills when you try to make it a system of governance...
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:31:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bellows1:

It's pretty fucking sad when your literally hitler and your not the worst guy in history... not even the worst guy in the 20th century, not even the worst guy in WW2.
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Originally Posted By TARFUN:
In the grand scheme, Hitler killed fewer people.

It's pretty fucking sad when your literally hitler and your not the worst guy in history... not even the worst guy in the 20th century, not even the worst guy in WW2.

According to Putin, the collapse of the USSR was worse than literally Hitler, WWII, and the Holocaust.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:32:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UnequivocalLiberty:
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That's what evil wants you to think. You're just carrying water for the bad guys, even if you don't think you are.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:35:41 PM EDT
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Neither - they were both equally evil no decent person could live under for very long...
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:54:49 PM EDT
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Gotta vote Hitler. Ultimately he was the catalyst that Europe needed to get into the 21st century in many ways. Even if you're Jewish, you have to see the silver lining of having Israel re-established. Of course both happened at a terrible cost, but at least their was progress in the long term. Without really making some leaps, I can't think of anything "negative" stemming from Hitler that continues today except maybe Volkswagen ....Stalin, I can easily see.

Stalin murdered more people, caused much longer lasting problems within Russia, regionally, and worldwide which continue today, and basically his actions never influenced anything positive happening in the world (that I know of/can think of).



Link Posted: 3/29/2024 4:54:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

According to Putin, the collapse of the USSR was worse than literally Hitler, WWII, and the Holocaust.
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So equal to Jan 6th?

Get it @Lieh-tzu
Link Posted: 3/29/2024 5:00:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

That's what evil wants you to think. You're just carrying water for the bad guys, even if you don't think you are.
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Read beyond good and evil and transvaluation of morals by Nietzsche, then look at the world through a new perspective, then understand that maybe the good guys are the bad guys.
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 12:53:14 AM EDT
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Honestly he should have become President not that communist simp Eisenhower.
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