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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:24:39 PM EDT
It occurred to me tonight that the Lexus GX 550 is really just a Prado with a 3.4 TT and some leather.

Attempt to tell me that I’m wrong.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:27:58 PM EDT
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Not sure anyone would disagree.  The GX470 is just a Prado 120 or something, right?

Not a bad thing.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:29:49 PM EDT
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The GX460 is a Prado.  The Prado VX-L has leather.  Very nice ride.  Been driving one for the past 5 years.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:30:02 PM EDT
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All GX's are Prados. Dunno why this is some sort of revelation.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:30:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Krombompulos_Michael:
The GX460 is a Prado.  The Prado VX-L has leather.  Very nice ride.  Been driving one for the past 5 years.
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How is that 4.6L V8?
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:42:10 PM EDT
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And in breaking news, Generalissimo Francisco Franko... is still dead.
The Lexus GX has always been a LC Prado with a big engine and nicer interior. Welcome to the year 2002.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:43:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WWolfe:
Not sure anyone would disagree.  The GX470 is just a Prado 120 or something, right?

Not a bad thing.
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GX470 is a Prado 120
GX460 is a Prado 150
GX550 is a Prado 250 (J252 is actual model number in TIS)
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:03:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:

How is that 4.6L V8?
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:
Originally Posted By Krombompulos_Michael:
The GX460 is a Prado.  The Prado VX-L has leather.  Very nice ride.  Been driving one for the past 5 years.

How is that 4.6L V8?



It's excellent! Gas milage sucks sucks and it's underpowered for what it is but you can get 300k miles on one easy.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:08:46 AM EDT
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Still waiting on a GDJ76L or FJA300L

Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:11:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:
It occurred to me tonight that the Lexus GX 550 is really just a Prado with a 3.4 TT and some leather.

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Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:27:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By whomper:
All GX's are Prados. Dunno why this is some sort of revelation.
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Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:29:34 AM EDT
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You guys are really doing a shitty job changing OP's mind...
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:31:06 AM EDT
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The buyers don't care.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 1:01:33 AM EDT
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Still waiting on a GDJ76L or FJA300L

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LX600
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 1:04:18 AM EDT
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Can we order a Prado?
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 1:11:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:
It occurred to me tonight that the Lexus GX 550 is really just a Prado with a 3.4 TT and some leather.

Attempt to tell me that I’m wrong.
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Frankly, it's about time the LC was downsized. For the GX to now be on the LC platform is a pretty good compliment for how customers want to use the GX.

Looks like the LX is now on the Sequoia/Tundra chassis?


Man, a lot has changed since I left the dealerships 4 years ago.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 1:13:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/20/2024 6:58:48 AM EDT
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The Prado I drove in Africa was diesel with a manual transmission.

Link Posted: 4/20/2024 7:08:03 AM EDT
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In the Bahamas, you can buy them with right hand drive, under the “land cruiser” brand.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 7:41:45 AM EDT
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Fucking love my Land Cruiser Lite 460. Too much engine means it just cruises without trying. Mpg sucks, tech was outdated when I bought it, but at 6 years ownership (12 years old now) I’ve done gas, oil, tires, battery, brakes, and my kid ripped the door handle off the back. Otherwise nothing.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 7:46:49 AM EDT
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It's excellent! Gas milage sucks sucks and it's underpowered for what it is but you can get 300k miles on one easy.
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I figured the 4.6 would feel pretty powerful in that vehicle.

What is your MPG?
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 7:53:49 AM EDT
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My 2023 GX 460 is just a Prado in a Tom Ford suit. The problem is mine has a vinyl interior, they have a fancy name for it. That said, I have one of rare Nori Green ones. Only 500 were made in this color.


Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:33:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stpeteaustin:
My 2023 GX 460 is just a Prado in a Tom Ford suit. The problem is mine has a vinyl interior, they have a fancy name for it. That said, I have one of rare Nori Green ones. Only 500 were made in this color.


https://www.vwvortex.com/attachments/4fbd5080-7be8-464c-92a0-fb4381e15196-jpeg.184428/
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That would look great with some bronze wheels!
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:45:21 AM EDT
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That would look great with some bronze wheels!
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There are people who switch them out.  




I will be doing a blackout on the chrome logos soon.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:59:24 AM EDT
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Whatever you do don't sign up for the FB group for these.

Coolant valley plate issues, front timing cover leaks and the transmissions are starting to fail on the older ones that are getting to 150k+ miles though the latter is probably because people are not changing the trans fluid enough.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 9:04:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MilHouse-556:
Whatever you do don't sign up for the FB group for these.

Coolant valley plate issues, front timing cover leaks and the transmissions are starting to fail on the older ones that are getting to 150k+ miles though the latter is probably because people are not changing the trans fluid enough.
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The GX 550 isn’t out yet.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 9:08:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By whomper:
All GX's are Prados. Dunno why this is some sort of revelation.
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Dude, it's a Skyraider thread. Revelations are never the outcome.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 9:10:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:

The GX 550 isn’t out yet.
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:
Originally Posted By MilHouse-556:
Whatever you do don't sign up for the FB group for these.

Coolant valley plate issues, front timing cover leaks and the transmissions are starting to fail on the older ones that are getting to 150k+ miles though the latter is probably because people are not changing the trans fluid enough.

The GX 550 isn’t out yet.


Sorry ment to say the GX 460 as this thread turned into one.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 9:17:06 AM EDT
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Oh man wait till you find out what an LX really is
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 9:20:16 AM EDT
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Still waiting on a GDJ76L or FJA300L

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Yes please
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 9:29:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:

How is that 4.6L V8?
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:
Originally Posted By Krombompulos_Michael:
The GX460 is a Prado.  The Prado VX-L has leather.  Very nice ride.  Been driving one for the past 5 years.

How is that 4.6L V8?


The one I’m driving has the 2.8 L turbo diesel.  It’s an awesome engine. You won’t be drag racing it to the mall, but it’s unstoppable off road. Wish I could get one in the US.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:10:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:

I figured the 4.6 would feel pretty powerful in that vehicle.

What is your MPG?
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It's only 300hp/330tq and 5200lbs. 15/19
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:12:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BillofRights:
Can we order a Prado?
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Toyota doesn't do orders, but LC250s are on a boat on their way over now. You won't be able to get one for a while if you've not been on a waiting list since mid last year, or willing to pay $10-20k market adjustments.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:17:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lexustech48:


Frankly, it's about time the LC was downsized. For the GX to now be on the LC platform is a pretty good compliment for how customers want to use the GX.

Looks like the LX is now on the Sequoia/Tundra chassis?


Man, a lot has changed since I left the dealerships 4 years ago.
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Every body on frame Toyota product is now on the same platform, from the Tacoma to the LX. Still some differentiation between them with power trains, axle sizes, wheel bases, etc
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:18:59 PM EDT
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Is there any truth to the claims that the 3.4 TT engines are spinning bearings and needing to be rebuilt?
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@PhuzzyGnu

Ha, is that real?
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:31:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:

@PhuzzyGnu

Ha, is that real?
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It's a real sticker I've seen on a GX before.  The picture is from the Etsy store selling the same sticker.

Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:31:58 PM EDT
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Is there any truth to the claims that the 3.4 TT engines are spinning bearings and needing to be rebuilt?
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Yes, according to Toyota service departments I've talked to.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:32:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:

The GX 550 isn't out yet.
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I saw a demo white one today at the dealership. We are probably going to get a TX though.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:33:48 PM EDT
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Always has been.gif
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:37:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:
It occurred to me tonight that the Lexus GX 550 is really just a Prado with a 3.4 TT and some leather.

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The LC250 and the GX550 are Prados.

The Prado is a LC, always has been, just a 7/8th scale LC.

The Lexus GX was typically a 4R (Hilux Surf overseas), until the 460 when it was a Prado, hence the barn door opening to the wrong side for the US.

My real issue, I have a few actually, with the new generations of Toyota (and the Lexus GX/LX) are the abysmally small fuel tank capacities. Who THE FUCK at Toyota thought a 18gal tank in the new Tacoma was acceptable, 21gal for the GX550, 17.9 for the US Land Cruiser, 21 for the LX600... Fucking crackheads.

Meanwhile, I have a V8 that gets roughly as good MPG and has a 36gal fuel tank. I like my 36gal fuel tank, I've been thinking about getting a 44-45gal replacement.
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The GX 550 isn’t out yet.
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The dealers are getting the test drive, not for sale models as we speak. The local to me dealer is giving me no love, a dealer is S.Florida is in constant, yet reasonable contact with me.
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:
Is there any truth to the claims that the 3.4 TT engines are spinning bearings and needing to be rebuilt?
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Yes, according to Toyota service departments I've talked to.
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Oh, that's lovely, maybe I'll tell them to take me off the GX550 list.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:39:36 PM EDT
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I figured the 4.6 would feel pretty powerful in that vehicle.
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Originally Posted By Voland:



It's excellent! Gas milage sucks sucks and it's underpowered for what it is but you can get 300k miles on one easy.

I figured the 4.6 would feel pretty powerful in that vehicle.
It is, but it's from an era where a heavy SUV wasn't expected to perform like a sports sedan.  

MPG is poor, what do you expect?  However,  it's just slightly less than a 4.0 4Runner,  the real irritant is required premium.

It's a NA engine,  and all NA engines quickly bump up against physics.  The benefit  is reliability.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:41:52 PM EDT
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Yes, according to Toyota service departments I've talked to.
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Sounds like the nominal oil pressure is too low.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:45:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu:

Yes, according to Toyota service departments I've talked to.
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:
Is there any truth to the claims that the 3.4 TT engines are spinning bearings and needing to be rebuilt?

Yes, according to Toyota service departments I've talked to.

Some 2022/2023 low mileage Tundras.

I haven’t heard of a Sequoia, or a 2024 Tundra with the “issue”.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 8:58:59 PM EDT
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What I think will happen in about a year is the Toyota guys, me included, will figure out the new 6th Gen 4Runner is going to outshine and perform the entire new Tahara line up.

As much as I despise a turbo charged 4 cylinder, the new 4Runner engine may be a winner

What will pain me is buying a "Land Cruiser" with a 4 cylinder engine, when I have the absolute best Land Cruiser made, my 2020 sitting in the garage with a V8

Link Posted: 4/20/2024 10:21:05 PM EDT
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Sounds like the nominal oil pressure is too low.
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From what I have heard from unofficial sources, is debris left from machining clogging oil passages.

Link Posted: 4/20/2024 10:54:52 PM EDT
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From what I have heard from unofficial sources, is debris left from machining clogging oil passages.
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Has that been corrected?
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Originally Posted By jeremy223:
From what I have heard from unofficial sources, is debris left from machining clogging oil passages.
https://www.tundras.com/media/img_1456.41937/full?d=1712687517
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Originally Posted By jeremy223:
Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:

Sounds like the nominal oil pressure is too low.
From what I have heard from unofficial sources, is debris left from machining clogging oil passages.
https://www.tundras.com/media/img_1456.41937/full?d=1712687517



That suuucks... first year issues i hope.


As to my mpg in my 460? I get 15 in the city and 18 on road trips. The v8 is good but the truck is heavy. An extra 50 ponies could have been squeezed out of the 4.6 without impacting reliability. It's fine as is though. I'm hoping to keep my '22 for ever...
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As to my mpg in my 460? I get 15 in the city and 18 on road trips.
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LOL

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