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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:05:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZC: Just did a 589 HH with a 20k pusher for a company in Utah. Submitted the order today. She's spec'd for up to 180k without a aux trans. X15/18SPM trans 44"sleeper. 200k + for aux trans. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:07:11 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MethaneMover: 18's are fun. Hell ya I wanna split 3rd. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MethaneMover: Originally Posted By AZC: Just did a 589 HH with a 20k pusher for a company in Utah. Submitted the order today. She's spec'd for up to 180k without a aux trans. X15/18SPM trans 44"sleeper. 200k + for aux trans. I’m really enjoying this mid life career change. Should have made the change years ago |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:12:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZC: Wider cab, better aero. EPA mandated. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZC: Originally Posted By JohnfromHR: What is the difference? Why iscit better than the more aerodynamic shaped truck with nose? Wider cab, better aero. EPA mandated. What epa mandates. Size of interior or aero? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:14:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AZC]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnfromHR: What epa mandates. Size of interior or aero? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnfromHR: Originally Posted By AZC: Originally Posted By JohnfromHR: What is the difference? Why iscit better than the more aerodynamic shaped truck with nose? Wider cab, better aero. EPA mandated. What epa mandates. Size of interior or aero? The 2.1 m 5 series cab is more aero efficient with a trailer or cargo than the 1.8m 3 series. 367/389 The 579’s are the Peterbilt OTR tractor. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:16:11 PM EDT
[#5]
KW/Pete
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:18:26 PM EDT
[#6]
I installed CB radios as a yute. I hated semis. The heat, the smell, the working outside of the shop, the discounted install prices, the delayed pay because of a purchase order process, the shit quality antenna parts that would be sold as part of a "package", and anything else that happens when you are on commission, performing labor basically at a truck stop electronics store.
Oh yeah, the hookers...  I GTFO of there asap. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:19:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HandtoHandWombat]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyMattel: Freightliners/Navistars are popular with fleets because they are CHEAP. Keep them around for the warranty then dump them on the used truck market. Volvos are kinda in the middle. Chrome trucks.....built good but one better be getting good rates, they ain't cheap and they don't get good fuel mileage. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyMattel: Freightliners/Navistars are popular with fleets because they are CHEAP. Keep them around for the warranty then dump them on the used truck market. Volvos are kinda in the middle. Chrome trucks.....built good but one better be getting good rates, they ain't cheap and they don't get good fuel mileage. Surprisingly, I think the fleet I work on picks up Volvo VNR300s cheaper than they used to get FL Cascadia 113s for. As a mechanic, I prefer freightliner. Detroits are easy to work on and relatively problem free, and I choose to pretend FL didn't stick MBE4000s in some of the Columbias  eta: Originally Posted By FaygoJoe: There's gotta be some kinda JDM Mitsubishi or something that shits on everything else. Toyota owns Hino. They're fucking terrible
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:23:26 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MethaneMover: Which is sexier- W900 or 379? Trick question. It's a c500 bed truck. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/145430/1000007577_jpg-3197119.JPG I worked for a rig moving outfit in North Dakota. They had a couple of those dual steer axle winch trucks. Nothing cooler than watching one winch something heavy and the front axles are 6-8’ off the ground. Badass rigs for sure. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:27:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HandtoHandWombat: Surprisingly, I think the fleet I work on picks up Volvo VNR300s cheaper than they used to get FL Cascadia 113s for. As a mechanic, I prefer freightliner. Detroits are easy to work on and relatively problem free, and I choose to pretend FL didn't stick MBE4000s in some of the Columbias eta: Toyota owns Hino. They're fucking terrible Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HandtoHandWombat: Originally Posted By MattyMattel: Freightliners/Navistars are popular with fleets because they are CHEAP. Keep them around for the warranty then dump them on the used truck market. Volvos are kinda in the middle. Chrome trucks.....built good but one better be getting good rates, they ain't cheap and they don't get good fuel mileage. Surprisingly, I think the fleet I work on picks up Volvo VNR300s cheaper than they used to get FL Cascadia 113s for. As a mechanic, I prefer freightliner. Detroits are easy to work on and relatively problem free, and I choose to pretend FL didn't stick MBE4000s in some of the Columbias eta: Originally Posted By FaygoJoe: There's gotta be some kinda JDM Mitsubishi or something that shits on everything else. Toyota owns Hino. They're fucking terrible There was Marmon but they went out of business in 1997. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:29:23 PM EDT
[#10]
International
The 13 letter shit spreader
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:31:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MethaneMover]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firespecialist: I worked for a rig moving outfit in North Dakota. They had a couple of those dual steer axle winch trucks. Nothing cooler than watching one winch something heavy and the front axles are 6-8' off the ground. Badass rigs for sure. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firespecialist: Originally Posted By MethaneMover: Which is sexier- W900 or 379? Trick question. It's a c500 bed truck. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/145430/1000007577_jpg-3197119.JPG I worked for a rig moving outfit in North Dakota. They had a couple of those dual steer axle winch trucks. Nothing cooler than watching one winch something heavy and the front axles are 6-8' off the ground. Badass rigs for sure. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4CdYxvLgrf/?igsh=czRuZDJzamk5bWhy  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:40:42 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firespecialist: I worked for a rig moving outfit in North Dakota. They had a couple of those dual steer axle winch trucks. Nothing cooler than watching one winch something heavy and the front axles are 6-8’ off the ground. Badass rigs for sure. Been around the Bears Den? |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:42:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nefj40: Been around the Bears Den? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nefj40: Originally Posted By Firespecialist: I worked for a rig moving outfit in North Dakota. They had a couple of those dual steer axle winch trucks. Nothing cooler than watching one winch something heavy and the front axles are 6-8' off the ground. Badass rigs for sure. Been around the Bears Den? |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:47:50 PM EDT
[#14]
Whatever is cheapest and has a warranty. They are all pieces of shit that break down. Electrical demons, def issues, computer problems.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:06:31 PM EDT
[#15]
Paccar.
0 questions about it. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:14:32 PM EDT
[#16]
Best truck i drove was a 379 pete, 60 series detriot with a 13 speed. Smooth ride, still my favorite to to this day.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:19:39 PM EDT
[#17]
Old truckers never die they just get a new Peterbilt.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:31:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Old ass Peterbilt master race checking in.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:32:27 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MethaneMover: I know it quite well. I've been pulled up those roads a bunch. Most people wouldn't believe it. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:41:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nefj40: I've been pulled up those roads a bunch. Most people wouldn't believe it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nefj40: Originally Posted By MethaneMover: I know it quite well. I've been pulled up those roads a bunch. Most people wouldn't believe it. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:00:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnfromHR]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZC: The 2.1 m 5 series cab is more aero efficient with a trailer or cargo than the 1.8m 3 series. 367/389 The 579’s are the Peterbilt OTR tractor. Thanks for the responses, so why do people buy one over the other the more aerodynamic or the more traditional, it seem like the more aerodynamic is a better financial decision but I presume some people like the old school look and dont care. Sometimes i fantasize about becoming an owner operator and becoming a nomad like bj mckay but without the monkey, what are your thoughts? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:45:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnfromHR: Thanks for the responses, so why do people buy one over the other the more aerodynamic or the more traditional, it seem like the more aerodynamic is a better financial decision but I presume some people like the old school look and dont care. Sometimes i fantasize about becoming an owner operator and becoming a nomad like bj mckay but without the monkey, what are your thoughts? 567 - Vocational 579 - OTR & Day cab 589 - Both really but not available in a set back front axle Some see the trucks as just tools. Others take a lot of pride in them. Tomorrow I’m spec’n a 589 transfer dump in Porsche sea green. Haha! Takes all types. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:00:45 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode: I don't know about the best but we had a lot of Volvos and the drivers seemed to like them . I used to be an owner operator. I had a Volvo. Wasn’t sexy but it sure rode and drove nice. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:04:41 AM EDT
[#24]
My last truck was a Volvo 770, Cummins N14, 13 speed RoadRanger. In a little over 600,000 miles, I replaced 1 injector, two dashlights, a leveling valve and a cupholder in the sleeper. Best vehicle of any kind I ever had. At the end, the doors still closed like a new car. Never a rain leak or a wind whistle. Paccar and Freightliners have light weight garbage doors.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:05:37 AM EDT
[#25]
My last truck was a Volvo 770, Cummins N14, 13 speed RoadRanger. In a little over 600,000 miles, I replaced 1 injector, two dashlights, a leveling valve and a cupholder in the sleeper. Best vehicle of any kind I ever had. At the end, the doors still closed like a new car. Never a rain leak or a wind whistle. Paccar and Freightliners have light weight garbage doors.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:17:28 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foxtrot08: Paccar. 0 questions about it. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:26:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BlackTaco]
[#27]
*On-road newer emissions trucks (are required for my business - have to be 2007+ newer DPF engine)…
Have somewhere around 15 International Pro-Stars with Cummins. For newer DPF trucks, this is what treated us best. Went through Volvo’s, Freights, Sterlings….. Newer DPF Freights with the Detroits - absolutely suck ass. Their DPF system is a nightmare. Regen was required daily - 30 minutes minimum sit time. Drop $2K on DPF maintenance, 30 days later - Regen every day. The Internationals with MAXForce engines are complete garbage - run far far away. They are basically giving them away, and there is a reason. Internationals with Cummins have worked very well for us from new to 600K miles. But DPF still sucks ass. The starters need upgraded and replaced every 300K, DPF’s well maintained, ECU’s were replaced on all trucks over 300K miles…other than that they’re solid. My best most reliable truck is a 1999 FLD120 Freight pre-emissions with a Detroit. Closing in on a million miles with no in-frame/rebuild. Of all the trucks (25 or so) this is the one that I never see on the parts/repair invoices. Owned it since early 2001. My mechanic brings me about $5K-$8K in invoice repairs every week that I approve, and that doesn’t include his salary. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:59:47 AM EDT
[#28]
Kenworth.
A Pete would also be acceptable. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:56:57 AM EDT
[#29]
Peterbilt. No question.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:03:16 PM EDT
[#30]
What’s the average price of a rig nowadays?
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:11:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
I installed CB radios as a yute. I hated semis. The heat, the smell, the working outside of the shop, the discounted install prices, the delayed pay because of a purchase order process, the shit quality antenna parts that would be sold as part of a "package", and anything else that happens when you are on commission, performing labor basically at a truck stop electronics store. Oh yeah, the hookers...
I GTFO of there asap. 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:41:33 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1975: What's the average price of a rig nowadays? Used truck prices are stupid cheap right now. There really is no best truck in general. It really depends on your need and parameters. A 389/W9 will be great (looks, resale value, driver retention) unless you need 8 mpg and go to tight shippers/receivers. Driver comfort and spec'ing auto transmission, Volvo is the "best" All emission engines suck. That's their deal and why gliders were so popular. I have Western Stars (glider and emission) and their quality has gone down tremendously. My 5700 is nowhere near built as well as my 4900's are. Daimler's site available to any owner that allows vin lookup for parts, wiring, etc is second to none though. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:47:32 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jackslack: No love for Western Stars? Always kind of liked the looks. That's all I know. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpowertorque.com.au%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F02%2F30-ANN-3-Quarter-sm.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=af671b51b73401b5b7f0d1912e1bfcf6fe42cc3724b58c1a5c999ed5fcb7cbef&ipo=images Cluck cluck a chicken truck I drove International, pete and KW I liked the KW the best, Pete second and International was ok but it had a lot of sway in the body. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:51:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1975: I think Volvo owns Mack now. And Freightliner owns Western Star, so I didn’t list those two. Solid reasoning. Not really though. Who owns Peterbilt and Kenworth? Retarded thread is retarded. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:55:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1975: What’s the average price of a rig nowadays? Anywhere between 100k and 500k. What are you ordering? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:10:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foxtrot08: Anywhere between 100k and 500k. What are you ordering? The one made by the best brand!!
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Posted: 4/25/2024 4:34:28 PM EDT
[#37]
Pete’s look the best and ride the best.
KW interiors are nicer, IMO. I prefer my KW to any of the new trucks. Pre emissions Detroit 60 and a 13 speed manual. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 4:58:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deuce_22: The one made by the best brand!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deuce_22: Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: Anywhere between 100k and 500k. What are you ordering? The one made by the best brand!! Ignore button. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 5:20:18 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1975: I think Volvo owns Mack now. And Freightliner owns Western Star, so I didn’t list those two. KW and Peterbilt are under the same company too. PACCAR |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 6:03:57 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1975: Ignore button. Wow. Maybe you should go start a thread about who makes the best bolt-action rifle next. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 7:43:59 PM EDT
[#41]
589=no more extened hoods
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 8:35:04 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By high-drag_low-speed: 589=no more extened hoods We offer long hoods on the 589. It’s the no more split windshield that pisses a lot of the old school cool guys off. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 8:44:35 PM EDT
[#43]
Peterbuilt is just down the highway from me. I tried to get on with them about 5 years ago. My DEI score wasn't high enough.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:52:38 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZC: We offer long hoods on the 589. It’s the no more split windshield that pisses a lot of the old school cool guys off. Good to know about the hoods. But can I get a 3408 or a 12v-71 in one? 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:53:46 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RV8guy: Peterbuilt is just down the highway from me. I tried to get on with them about 5 years ago. My DEI score wasn't high enough.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:57:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dan1918A2]
[#46]
Since this is a truck thread, here’s a few pics of my KW unloading right now in the dark. I don’t often get to see her all lit up these days. She’s not sneaking up on anybody.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:33:05 PM EDT
[#47]
What's in the air can, portland? Kinda looks like a batch plant...maybe?
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:34:35 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan1918A2: Since this is a truck thread, here’s a few pics of my KW unloading right now in the dark. I don’t often get to see her all lit up these days. She’s not sneaking up on anybody. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157991/IMG_3952_jpeg-3197991.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157991/IMG_3951_jpeg-3197992.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157991/IMG_3950_jpeg-3197993.JPG 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:42:03 PM EDT
[#49]
What engine are we picking in each of these choices?
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:42:05 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MethaneMover: What's in the air can, portland? Kinda looks like a batch plant...maybe? You got it! Type 1L dry cement. Usually around 26 tons of it each load. That’s the busiest batch plant they (my customer) have. Was going to just bring them two or three loads today, but their customer kept bumping up the yardage due to the nice weather. They were blowing through their inventory and are pouring another 350 yards tomorrow. So I ended up bringing four loads and I’m in a Hampton Inn for the night. 630 miles and 14 hours today. I’ll bring another two loads tomorrow and call it a week. |
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