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Posted: 4/19/2024 5:40:05 PM EDT
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This dropped today and it's all I've seen of the interview. If this is the same clip I saw earlier, I agree 100% with Tucker.
ETA: Oops....I thought the video was embedded in the tweet, but's just a still photo.
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When Tucker Carlson Changed His Mind on Aliens UFO/UAP part is during the first 30 minutes of this video Joe Rogan Experience #2138 - Tucker Carlson |
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Thanks for posting the appropriate segment!
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He puts a lot of the stuff regarding UFO/UAP in a concise packet.
His statements really have panties in a wad in GD. He was quite prophetic with this bit: "I bought into everything they said and believed with all my heart, and if somebody told me otherwise they were a bad/wrong person" (Paraphrased from first few minutes of his interview) The polarization is complete - somebody expressing an opinion different than your own is an enemy. That is how we've become so divided. I've said this before but back in the 80s, people would go to a bar and politics could be mentioned and they'd argue but still buy beers. Later they'd get in fights, now they don't even go to the same bar and vandalize the hangouts of the "enemy". The "Religion and politics aren't mentioned in polite company" along with "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" have been lost to the history book of what made civilization function smoothly. The GD crowd go so far as to say this reflects badly on Trump, since Tucker covers a lot of Trump news, if he talks about UFOs and conspiracy theories turning out to be actual conspiracies as time goes on, he's off the rails loony and that means Trump is too. They never stop and think that they might be the ones without all the information if their education is entirely from what is shown to them instead of what they seek to learn about. |
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
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Originally Posted By brass: His statements really have panties in a wad in GD. He was quite prophetic with this bit: "I bought into everything they said and believed with all my heart, and if somebody told me otherwise they were a bad/wrong person" (Paraphrased from first few minutes of his interview) View Quote It's an extremely bitter pill to swallow. I swallowed it too. It requires letting go of pride though, admitting you've been had, and trying to find out what the genuine truth is on things. A lot of American conservatives are too prideful to admit they've been had on a lot of subjects and would rather just keep repeating the empty political platitudes that give them comfort and refusing to think critically. |
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I'm curious of what it was -that TC was told about UAPs/NHIs that is so dark, he wouldn't tell his kids or wife.
Angels? Demons? Human flesh or Soul herders? There was a snippet of that conversation from an earlier podcast with him and I was hoping for a bit more elaboration with JR. As for GD...quite singlerly, the most informed yet myopic, willfully ignorant and disheartening place on the net. |
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Originally Posted By Frost7: It's an extremely bitter pill to swallow. I swallowed it too. It requires letting go of pride though, admitting you've been had, and trying to find out what the genuine truth is on things. A lot of American conservatives are too prideful to admit they've been had on a lot of subjects and would rather just keep repeating the empty political platitudes that give them comfort and refusing to think critically. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Frost7: Originally Posted By brass: His statements really have panties in a wad in GD. He was quite prophetic with this bit: "I bought into everything they said and believed with all my heart, and if somebody told me otherwise they were a bad/wrong person" (Paraphrased from first few minutes of his interview) It's an extremely bitter pill to swallow. I swallowed it too. It requires letting go of pride though, admitting you've been had, and trying to find out what the genuine truth is on things. A lot of American conservatives are too prideful to admit they've been had on a lot of subjects and would rather just keep repeating the empty political platitudes that give them comfort and refusing to think critically. The MSM and what is essentially the "leftists religion" have these really strong feelings and anger and acting on it and they don't know why, but they have a LOT of conviction that people that think differently need to be punished one way or another, they need a name to attack and a label to attack them with, then they make a chant and riot over it without being able to articulate the actual issue at hand. We've all had to come to that realization sooner or later (hopefully). It takes a lot of self reflection and really sucks to truly admit you believed a lot of lies swallowed whole and have strong opinions and you're not sure where exactly they came from. When you start reading independent data and seeing the amount of stuff you were directly lied to about, and the extent of those lies, it makes you question everything you know and you need to go back to first principles and primary sources to decide what you really believe. We don't need to have an opinion on every pop topic, we can be undecided on things we do not have enough information about. A large portion of the population doesn't think that is allowed, you either love or hate something and there's no undecided, even when it comes to things that do not effect you and you have zero control over. Like cheering for a football team or a war. Your attitude isn't going to change the outcome, neither will insulting or attacking somebody else who doesn't share your opinion. Divided we fall. Direct correlation with how fast the US has deteriorated and the divisions and labels thrown around. The labels came first in the 90s for 'hate crimes' (before any happened) and people laughed at the concepts, same as all the different pronouns for sexes 15 years ago, now they're realities and people argue over what they should be called instead of deciding what they do have in common and can work together to improve. |
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
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A lot of the GD comments reinforce the consensus among "program" whistleblowers that the public can't handle this information.
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Originally Posted By brass: He puts a lot of the stuff regarding UFO/UAP in a concise packet. His statements really have panties in a wad in GD. He was quite prophetic with this bit: "I bought into everything they said and believed with all my heart, and if somebody told me otherwise they were a bad/wrong person" (Paraphrased from first few minutes of his interview) The polarization is complete - somebody expressing an opinion different than your own is an enemy. That is how we've become so divided. I've said this before but back in the 80s, people would go to a bar and politics could be mentioned and they'd argue but still buy beers. Later they'd get in fights, now they don't even go to the same bar and vandalize the hangouts of the "enemy". The "Religion and politics aren't mentioned in polite company" along with "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" have been lost to the history book of what made civilization function smoothly. The GD crowd go so far as to say this reflects badly on Trump, since Tucker covers a lot of Trump news, if he talks about UFOs and conspiracy theories turning out to be actual conspiracies as time goes on, he's off the rails loony and that means Trump is too. They never stop and think that they might be the ones without all the information if their education is entirely from what is shown to them instead of what they seek to learn about. View Quote You said a mouthful there even just with that one highlight I made in bold. For decades now - particularly around election time - I have told people that “once [the election or big issue in society like the OJ trial] is over, we still need to live with each other.” Meaning, let’s not say anything to each other that will make us angry or desire revenge. Not only has nobody listened, the rhetoric and divides have only gotten worse. Sorry for focusing on politics in the UFO forum… I am looking forward to listening to the Rogan/Tucker podcast after I finish the Chris Williamson/Mike Baker one today. |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
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Growing up I was taught that you need to be able to defend your opinion, and that everyone is different, so there will be different opinions. We still have the majority of things in common. Now, everything is about how we are different...not alike. If someone has a different opinion about something, then they are a threat or mentally defective somehow. This division has been created and does not benefit the majority of people. It is quite sobering and disappointing when you realize we are watching a magic show. What we see is what the powers that be want us to see....
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Originally Posted By gaizkaeta: I'm curious of what it was -that TC was told about UAPs/NHIs that is so dark, he wouldn't tell his kids or wife. Angels? Demons? Human flesh or Soul herders? There was a snippet of that conversation from an earlier podcast with him and I was hoping for a bit more elaboration with JR. As for GD...quite singlerly, the most informed yet myopic, willfully ignorant and disheartening place on the net. View Quote I'm going to answer like Lue Elizondo: Imagine finding out that everything we've been told is wrong and/or a lie. What if both religion and science are way off? What if the encounters with "angelic beings" written about in the Bible weren't heavenly figures sent by God but actually entities associated with this phenomenon? What if they manipulated DNA in the past to create us and have guided our development? How would people handle that information? Religious folks will reject it outright and say it's demonic. Non-religious folks will mostly reject it without ample evidence, and even then some will say the evidence is fabricated. What do we hear all the time in GD? "It's a distraction/psy-op/globalist trick!!" Those people won't accept any version of evidence. An easy-to-accept answer would be "they're aliens from another planet who figured out how to get here by manipulating worm holes". Unfortunately, it's not that simple. What we think of as the "spirit realm" is the place some of these things inhabit and that's a lot to digest. |
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Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I'm going to answer like Lue Elizondo: Imagine finding out that everything we've been told is wrong and/or a lie. What if both religion and science are way off? What if the encounters with "angelic beings" written about in the Bible weren't heavenly figures sent by God but actually entities associated with this phenomenon? What if they manipulated DNA in the past to create us and have guided our development? How would people handle that information? Religious folks will reject it outright and say it's demonic. Non-religious folks will mostly reject it without ample evidence, and even then some will say the evidence is fabricated. What do we hear all the time in GD? "It's a distraction/psy-op/globalist trick!!" Those people won't accept any version of evidence. An easy-to-accept answer would be "they're aliens from another planet who figured out how to get here by manipulating worm holes". Unfortunately, it's not that simple. What we think of as the "spirit realm" is the place some of these things inhabit and that's a lot to digest. View Quote That is a lot of food for thought! What round for semi invisible spirit creatures? Actually, I'm kinda wondering now-for myself, how I would take irrefutable evidence of such a thing. Probably a really deep "what now?" |
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Originally Posted By gaizkaeta: Ooof! That is a lot of food for thought! What round for semi invisible spirit creatures? Actually, I'm kinda wondering now-for myself, how I would take irrefutable evidence of such a thing. Probably a really deep "what now?" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By gaizkaeta: Originally Posted By Cypher214: I'm going to answer like Lue Elizondo: Imagine finding out that everything we've been told is wrong and/or a lie. What if both religion and science are way off? What if the encounters with "angelic beings" written about in the Bible weren't heavenly figures sent by God but actually entities associated with this phenomenon? What if they manipulated DNA in the past to create us and have guided our development? How would people handle that information? Religious folks will reject it outright and say it's demonic. Non-religious folks will mostly reject it without ample evidence, and even then some will say the evidence is fabricated. What do we hear all the time in GD? "It's a distraction/psy-op/globalist trick!!" Those people won't accept any version of evidence. An easy-to-accept answer would be "they're aliens from another planet who figured out how to get here by manipulating worm holes". Unfortunately, it's not that simple. What we think of as the "spirit realm" is the place some of these things inhabit and that's a lot to digest. That is a lot of food for thought! What round for semi invisible spirit creatures? Actually, I'm kinda wondering now-for myself, how I would take irrefutable evidence of such a thing. Probably a really deep "what now?" What round? Interesting question. Higher dimensional existence is going to have an added perspective (we don't have) and a reduced /one less boundary (we do have). I imagine "we" are much like a DVD of a movie. We think we exist in the projected image that is translated through the electronics from the disk, though we can't see the disk or the DVD player or the TV. Imagine the others are more like us. Able to witness the DVD movie from beginning to end, forward and backward, already know how the movie will end. They can walk around the TV and see behind it. They can pause the show and leave, come back later and continue. The people in the movie have no idea any of this is happening. One moment to the next is an illusion of continuity. How a projected being, stuck in a lower dimension can reach outside of the TV and kill a higher dimensional being is going to be tricky. Maybe if the projections do things that piss the others off they could have a heart attack? ETA: time is a flat circle Attached File |
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Where is the clip of TC being told something so earth shattering who couldn’t tell his wife or kids? I keep hearing this a la Lou Elizondo.
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Originally Posted By rushca01: Where is the clip of TC being told something so earth shattering who couldn't tell his wife or kids? I keep hearing this a la Lou Elizondo. View Quote What Tucker Carlson Wont Even Tell His Wife About |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By gaizkaeta: Originally Posted By rushca01: Where is the clip of TC being told something so earth shattering who couldn't tell his wife or kids? I keep hearing this a la Lou Elizondo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKHzLpWTXmg This thread as well Stuff from Gary Nolan regarding materials and different dimension/spiritual aspects and Diane Pasulka and Jacques Vallee for hardcore "woo woo" areas of the UAP phenomenon that scares people away because it's so foreign and not something you can touch/taste/see, only feel, like Telepathy components and the astral projection stuff which can't be videotaped and shared. |
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
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I’m an hour and 44 mins in now. It’s by and large two guys with varied experiences shooting the breeze and we get to be flies on the wall listening in.
Not mandatory, but interesting. |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993. Soli Deo Gloria |
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More and more, I'm leaning towards the idea that governments of the world want to hide the reality of the Phenomenon because it would be destabilizing.
If their best guess is that Earth may be a prison planet for souls then I can see why they would go to extreme lengths to hide this info. Perhaps it's not as dark as that. Perhaps the evidence points to humans being genetically engineered or shaped by an alien or extra dimensional entity, for an unknown reason. Either way, I can see why powerful forces would want to keep that evidence hidden. |
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As a follow on to my post above, many of us would consider Hal Puthoff as a seminal figure in UAP research since the early days. Linked below is his presentation at the recent SOL conference.
Video is only 18 minutes long and beginning at the 2 minute mark, he reveals that many years ago he was invited to attend a governmental working group where one of the questions posed to them was whether or not disclosure was in the public interest. After detailing all the potential and probable impacts, most in the working group felt it would not be. Hal Puthoff at SOL Conference. |
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Originally Posted By gaizkaeta: I'm curious of what it was -that TC was told about UAPs/NHIs that is so dark, he wouldn't tell his kids or wife. Angels? Demons? Human flesh or Soul herders? There was a snippet of that conversation from an earlier podcast with him and I was hoping for a bit more elaboration with JR. As for GD...quite singlerly, the most informed yet myopic, willfully ignorant and disheartening place on the net. View Quote the "dark" part was unspoken i feel cause you wer soupposed to fill in the blanks... he was saying theres bad and nuetural agents in the NHI phenomenon, and somehow linked the" bad" NHI actors to our gubbmint, therefore the gubbmint is bad. dark part is the gubbmint acts "good" but cant be if thye allgned with "bad" NHI against humans... or thats the vibe i got from that segemnt of convo |
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Originally Posted By saltydecimator: the "dark" part was unspoken i feel cause you wer soupposed to fill in the blanks... he was saying theres bad and nuetural agents in the NHI phenomenon, and somehow linked the" bad" NHI actors to our gubbmint, therefore the gubbmint is bad. dark part is the gubbmint acts "good" but cant be if thye allgned with "bad" NHI against humans... or thats the vibe i got from that segemnt of convo View Quote This dark theory is confirmed by Ike's own great-granddaughter as seen in the video. Imagine telling your wife and children that their own gov is perfectly fine with them getting randomly abducted and violated by the Greys because "a treaty is a treaty". The Greada Treaty -Eisenhower -1955 |
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Originally Posted By gaizkaeta: I'm curious of what it was -that TC was told about UAPs/NHIs that is so dark, he wouldn't tell his kids or wife. Angels? Demons? Human flesh or Soul herders? There was a snippet of that conversation from an earlier podcast with him and I was hoping for a bit more elaboration with JR. As for GD...quite singlerly, the most informed yet myopic, willfully ignorant and disheartening place on the net. View Quote I feel like Tucker’s version of ‘dark’ aligns with Tom DeLonge’s perspective (maybe best articulated on Jimmy Church’s Fade to Black podcast circa 2017). Essentially it’s a phantom biosphere and there are things around us all the time that we do not have senses to detect. Edited to add: After listening to a couple of those other Tucker video clips above, I think now maybe he’s referring to the government having an agreement with a flavor of entities to allow them to kidnap a certain number of humans in exchange for technology. At one point there was talk of an insider saying that the abduction element was one piece of this that they would never confirm with the public. Essentially the government has been complicit in a mass kidnapping operation that has spanned at least decades. Every citizen would immediately want to conclude the government if they found out this was true. |
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How about Tucker on Howard Stern, would be interesting.
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My current opinion is that the "dark" aspect Tucker is referring to, in a very general sense, is that there is an interdimensional (ie, spiritual) aspect to the phenomenon, that whatever "they" are, they've been interacting with mankind for a very long time, maybe even from the beginning, and that the great world religions are based on those interactions. I lean toward there being a symbiotic relationship between "them" and us, which is beneficial for them and at best, neutral for us and maybe (even likely) negative for us. I also lean toward there being some way out for us and that is what the world's religions are pointing us toward. This is why I now lean strongly toward the "demonic" theory, despite thinking it was ludicrous just a few years ago. Demonic in the sense that this was the term used to describe whatever "they" are.
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Originally Posted By corwin1968: My current opinion is that the "dark" aspect Tucker is referring to, in a very general sense, is that there is an interdimensional (ie, spiritual) aspect to the phenomenon, that whatever "they" are, they've been interacting with mankind for a very long time, maybe even from the beginning, and that the great world religions are based on those interactions. I lean toward there being a symbiotic relationship between "them" and us, which is beneficial for them and at best, neutral for us and maybe (even likely) negative for us. I also lean toward there being some way out for us and that is what the world's religions are pointing us toward. This is why I now lean strongly toward the "demonic" theory, despite thinking it was ludicrous just a few years ago. Demonic in the sense that this was the term used to describe whatever "they" are. View Quote This is roughly where I am heading with the available information currently. It dovetails with the “ontological” aspect they keep trying to protect us from. |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
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Originally Posted By macman37: This is roughly where I am heading with the available information currently. It dovetails with the "ontological" aspect they keep trying to protect us from. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By corwin1968: My current opinion is that the "dark" aspect Tucker is referring to, in a very general sense, is that there is an interdimensional (ie, spiritual) aspect to the phenomenon, that whatever "they" are, they've been interacting with mankind for a very long time, maybe even from the beginning, and that the great world religions are based on those interactions. I lean toward there being a symbiotic relationship between "them" and us, which is beneficial for them and at best, neutral for us and maybe (even likely) negative for us. I also lean toward there being some way out for us and that is what the world's religions are pointing us toward. This is why I now lean strongly toward the "demonic" theory, despite thinking it was ludicrous just a few years ago. Demonic in the sense that this was the term used to describe whatever "they" are. This is roughly where I am heading with the available information currently. It dovetails with the "ontological" aspect they keep trying to protect us from. |
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