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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:22:40 PM EDT
U.S. soldier arrested in Russia

A U.S. soldier was detained in Russia last week, a U.S. Army spokesperson said in a statement.

He had been stationed in South Korea and traveled to Russia on his own and not on official business, according to four U.S. officials.

The soldier is accused of stealing from a woman, the officials said.

The soldier was detained on May. 2, U.S. Army spokesperson Cynthia O. Smith, said in a statement.

In a statement, Smith said that the soldier was apprehended in Vladivostok, Russia "on charges of criminal misconduct."

"The Russian Federation notified the U.S. Department of State of the criminal detention in accordance with the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations," Smith said. "The Army notified his family and the U.S. Department of State is providing appropriate consular support to the Soldier in Russia. Given the sensitivity of this matter, we are unable to provide additional details at this time.."

Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, said he is "deeply concerned" by reports that a soldier was detained in Russia.

"Putin has a long history of holding American citizens hostage," McCaul said in a post shared on X. "A warning to all Americans—as the State Department has said, it is not safe to travel to Russia."

The soldier, who officials did not name, is one of a number of Americans detained in Russia, including several civilians.

Arrests of Americans in Russia have increased as the relationship between the two countries has sunk to Cold War lows, The Associated Press reported. The U.S. has accused Russia of targeting Americans and using them as bargaining chips, according to the AP.

Among the most prominent U.S. citizens to be detained are Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, who was jailed last March, and former Marine Paul Whelan, who was arrested in 2018. The U.S. government has said that both Gershkovich and Whelan are wrongfully detained.

WNBA star Brittney Griner spent 10 months in Russian penal colonies for drug-related charges but was released in a rare prisoner exchange for Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout in 2022.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:24:26 PM EDT
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Why would you travel to a country that has reason to use you as a pawn?
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:25:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: scrambler28] [#2]
Stealing? Is his name some variation of Quintavious? Didn't some college basketball man have this happen in China a few years ago.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:28:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JimEN:
Why would you travel to a country that has reason to use you as a pawn?
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That was my 1st 2nd and 3rd thoughts. You're asking for trouble at this point in the game.
Unless.....
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:30:04 PM EDT
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Note to self:  don’t go to Russia on a whim.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:35:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JimEN:
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Pussy


Next question.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:41:47 PM EDT
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I'm surprised his comment approved the travel, assuming he notified them of his plans.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:44:38 PM EDT
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Not the smartest travel option I've heard of lately...
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:56:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JimEN:
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There's only enough blood in a man's body for one head
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:01:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SSeric02:
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He either didn't notify them or he was on official espionage business.

Either is not a good situation.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:08:29 PM EDT
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Imagine having to write that SITREP
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:09:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JimEN:
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Bc you're a spy.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:26:00 PM EDT
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GD told me just a couple days ago they would have no problem going to Russia when I commented on what a bad idea that was for any American.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:29:14 PM EDT
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GD told me just a couple days ago they would have no problem going to Russia when I commented on what a bad idea that was for any American.
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Originally Posted By Square66:
Originally Posted By JimEN:
Why would you travel to a country that has reason to use you as a pawn?


GD told me just a couple days ago they would have no problem going to Russia when I commented on what a bad idea that was for any American.

Pepperidge Farms remembers
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:34:45 PM EDT
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Oops
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:39:01 PM EDT
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Beat by SnoGoRider by 12 minutes !
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:47:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Square66:


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Lol.

This guy is going find out how totally USSR this "totally not USSR" Russia is.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:49:13 PM EDT
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For some reason some people think Russia is a good government or that they are immune from arrest or any number of things.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:49:35 PM EDT
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Imagine being in the CGs office explaining how this happened.

I was in my CGs office once for a soldier with a DUI, not a pleasant experience.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 6:00:34 PM EDT
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He's in the hole for leave now.


Vlad, been there. Nice place. Friendly people.
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Pussy


Next question.
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I'm not going to lie. After several trips prior to my marriage I look forward to returning.

First if you go:

Don't steal.
Don't do drugs.
Don't get falling down drunk.
Don't try to hide foreign money,  If you take much cash. Document it with proper methods.
Don't try to exchange currency on the street. Illegal. Use an approved bank, etc.
Don't take random pictures unless you know it's safe

Do stick with a group of locals that behave.
Do keep your head on a swivel
Do be polite. The normal people are very helpful.
Do expect that you can have your passport checked. Like anywhere in Europe.

So basically like most of Europe. Behave and do the above and you want have trouble. I follow several Americans that are either there visiting or are staying a longer time. Y'all know there's a large group of ex-pats from many countries there, right? Even a decent size group of Americans. If the government wants to round up people on false charges they have plenty to pick from. Why are they only arresting people for what's illegal in most of the world?
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Originally Posted By Pinpoint6:
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FIFY

Link Posted: 5/6/2024 7:48:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SSeric02:
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Command?


Link Posted: 5/6/2024 7:49:41 PM EDT
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Fpni. That's not to say he ain't some shit bird but Jesus, they would find ANY excuse to hold you no matter how petty.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 7:50:22 PM EDT
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I would but I'd be real clear about not even jay walking.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 7:54:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2tom2:


That was my 1st 2nd and 3rd thoughts. You're asking for trouble at this point in the game.
Unless.....
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I would really like to ride the Siberian Express from Vladivostock Westbound to St. Petersburg.  I probably never will for reasons like this.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 7:56:13 PM EDT
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I had to confiscate a laptop and govt phone from a Major who decided to take a unapproved trip to China… those SCI clearances come with lots of strings.  At least he got to retire after spending 3 years in a job with no clearance requirements.  Oh, the phone and laptop ended up being destroyed after being inspected by the cyber geeks.

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Originally Posted By TarzanT:
I had to confiscate a laptop and govt phone from a Major who decided to take a unapproved trip to China… those SCI clearances come with lots of strings.  At least he got to retire after spending 3 years in a job with no clearance requirements.  Oh, the phone and laptop ended up being destroyed after being inspected by the cyber geeks.

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He took a government laptop and phone to China and all that happened was his loss of clearance?
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 9:41:24 AM EDT
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The only reason any U.S. soldier should step foot inside Russia, is that they are part of an expeditionary force.
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 9:56:27 AM EDT
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You don't understand bro she's the love of my life bro
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 9:59:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kraquine:

He's in the hole for leave now.


Vlad, been there. Nice place. Friendly people.
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He's stationed in Korea, Vladivostok would be what maybe a 2-3 hr flight from Incheon? I legit wonder whether he didn't think he could get there and back over a weekend and nobody would know.

Assume he doesn't have a clearance or work on anything sensitive or even interesting, given that the Rooskies apparently decided he has more value as a hostage than he would have in place.
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 10:02:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:

Pussy


Next question.
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:
Originally Posted By JimEN:
Why would you travel to a country that has reason to use you as a pawn?

Pussy


Next question.

Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 10:04:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DieselEngineer:


I would really like to ride the Siberian Express from Vladivostock Westbound to St. Petersburg.  I probably never will for reasons like this.
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Originally Posted By DieselEngineer:
Originally Posted By 2tom2:


That was my 1st 2nd and 3rd thoughts. You're asking for trouble at this point in the game.
Unless.....


I would really like to ride the Siberian Express from Vladivostock Westbound to St. Petersburg.  I probably never will for reasons like this.


Definitely on my bucket list, but yeah, probably ain't gonna happen.
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What an idiot…..
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 10:12:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:

Pussy


Next question.
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:
Originally Posted By JimEN:
Why would you travel to a country that has reason to use you as a pawn?

Pussy


Next question.



Pretty much this.  There is a good chance he met her in Afg if he was there or in Dubai.   Either way his wife has probably moved from waiting for him to get home to visiting lawyers today to get a head start on the old divorce.  I think I read longtime GF which makes me think Afg.
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 10:15:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NickPapagiorgio:


He's stationed in Korea, Vladivostok would be what maybe a 2-3 hr flight from Incheon? I legit wonder whether he didn't think he could get there and back over a weekend and nobody would know.

Assume he doesn't have a clearance or work on anything sensitive or even interesting, given that the Rooskies apparently decided he has more value as a hostage than he would have in place.
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Originally Posted By NickPapagiorgio:
Originally Posted By Kraquine:

He's in the hole for leave now.


Vlad, been there. Nice place. Friendly people.


He's stationed in Korea, Vladivostok would be what maybe a 2-3 hr flight from Incheon? I legit wonder whether he didn't think he could get there and back over a weekend and nobody would know.

Assume he doesn't have a clearance or work on anything sensitive or even interesting, given that the Rooskies apparently decided he has more value as a hostage than he would have in place.



IIRC, I think I read on one account that he was "on his way to return home" or something like that.  Perhaps a side stop off to play tourist during a PCS move?  I've been to Vlad, it's kinda cool--or at least it was 20 years ago.  I'd not go as an American now given the current geopolitical situation.  Not smart.
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He took a government laptop and phone to China and all that happened was his loss of clearance?
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Originally Posted By TarzanT:
I had to confiscate a laptop and govt phone from a Major who decided to take a unapproved trip to China… those SCI clearances come with lots of strings.  At least he got to retire after spending 3 years in a job with no clearance requirements.  Oh, the phone and laptop ended up being destroyed after being inspected by the cyber geeks.




He took a government laptop and phone to China and all that happened was his loss of clearance?

He is an officer. There is a different set of rules.
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 10:20:36 AM EDT
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Fuck Putin and fuck his leg humpers
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 10:35:13 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/7/2024 10:36:49 AM EDT
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An enlisted person making poor decisions? Hopefully this is just a one-off.

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Originally Posted By 2tom2:


That was my 1st 2nd and 3rd thoughts. You're asking for trouble at this point in the game.
Unless.....
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Originally Posted By 2tom2:
Originally Posted By JimEN:
Why would you travel to a country that has reason to use you as a pawn?


That was my 1st 2nd and 3rd thoughts. You're asking for trouble at this point in the game.
Unless.....

And I seriously doubt we have a Status of Forces Agreement with Russia, so...
As we used to say on the Grenade Range: Oops!
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 10:43:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Panta_Rei:



He took a government laptop and phone to China and all that happened was his loss of clearance?
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Do we still use Double agents these days?
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 10:51:14 AM EDT
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He should be kept in Russia jail.
Met Russian girl on internet.
He chased after her. Beat her up and robbed her.
Moscow Honey-Trapped American Soldier? U.S. Soldier Arrested For ‘Criminal Misconduct’ In Russia

"A US Army soldier, Gordon Black, was detained in Russia on May 2 on charges of stealing money from a woman. Russian newspaper Izvestia, quoting an unnamed source, said the Army sergeant based-in South Korea met a woman from Russia's far eastern port of Vladivostok on the Internet. Izvestia reported that the US soldier beat her and stole 200,000 roubles ($2,200) from her"
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 10:54:56 AM EDT
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Going to Russia as a US citizen or the citizen of a NATO country is fucking stupid.

This dude is either stupid, beyond traveling to Russia, or was set up.
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 11:08:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fishing_cabin:


I'm not going to lie. After several trips prior to my marriage I look forward to returning.

First if you go:

Don't steal.
Don't do drugs.
Don't get falling down drunk.
Don't try to hide foreign money,  If you take much cash. Document it with proper methods.
Don't try to exchange currency on the street. Illegal. Use an approved bank, etc.
Don't take random pictures unless you know it's safe

Do stick with a group of locals that behave.
Do keep your head on a swivel
Do be polite. The normal people are very helpful.
Do expect that you can have your passport checked. Like anywhere in Europe.

So basically like most of Europe. Behave and do the above and you want have trouble. I follow several Americans that are either there visiting or are staying a longer time. Y'all know there's a large group of ex-pats from many countries there, right? Even a decent size group of Americans. If the government wants to round up people on false charges they have plenty to pick from. Why are they only arresting people for what's illegal in most of the world?
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Lol
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 11:11:42 AM EDT
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If I had a Russian girl  shes coming to me or I'd just screw a gal in the country I'm in  even if this soldier was setup going to Russia is stupid  and does not need to be in the us military
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 11:14:04 AM EDT
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Like going to a conservative demonstration in Washington DC?

Or cleaning up graffiti in Kenosha, WI?
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 11:15:21 AM EDT
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IIRC, I think I read on one account that he was "on his way to return home" or something like that.  Perhaps a side stop off to play tourist during a PCS move?  I've been to Vlad, it's kinda cool--or at least it was 20 years ago.  I'd not go as an American now given the current geopolitical situation.  Not smart.
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Originally Posted By NickPapagiorgio:
Originally Posted By Kraquine:

He's in the hole for leave now.


Vlad, been there. Nice place. Friendly people.


He's stationed in Korea, Vladivostok would be what maybe a 2-3 hr flight from Incheon? I legit wonder whether he didn't think he could get there and back over a weekend and nobody would know.

Assume he doesn't have a clearance or work on anything sensitive or even interesting, given that the Rooskies apparently decided he has more value as a hostage than he would have in place.



IIRC, I think I read on one account that he was "on his way to return home" or something like that.  Perhaps a side stop off to play tourist during a PCS move?  I've been to Vlad, it's kinda cool--or at least it was 20 years ago.  I'd not go as an American now given the current geopolitical situation.  Not smart.


Yeah going there now is asking for trouble especially if you're military and have a target on your back.
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