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Posted: 3/28/2024 2:58:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 2:59:22 PM EDT
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The UK couldn't fight the Republic of Congo for two months without America helping them these days.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:02:41 PM EDT
[#2]
May as well send all of their equipment to Ukraine!
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:03:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Maybe Europe should just go ahead and surrender now and get it over with.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:04:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: May as well send all of their equipment to Ukraine! Isn't that the concept? Better a |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:05:51 PM EDT
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Isnt that just about every Euro Trash country? With the rate of Artillery expenditure, how long could any of them actually sustain actual full scale conflict without Uncle Sam.
France recently Tripled their 155 Production to 3K shells a month. Ukraine is down to firing 2K a day from 6K over last summer with Russia kicking off 10-20K shells a day. We are currently producing 28K a month and hope to up that to close to 80K some time in the future. And think of the huge potential America has to ramp up War Production if it kicked the regulations and BS to the side. I dont think Europe has that sort of industrial base it could ramp up if war kicked off across the continent. But hey, they got free health care and safe speech laws.. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:09:34 PM EDT
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If only the UK was following this doctrine:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. They would have a whole lot more armed and trained men. But royals don't really care much for a free state. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:10:14 PM EDT
[#7]
Sounds like a Europe problem.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:10:48 PM EDT
[#8]
It was always going to go to nukes quick.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:11:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
[#9]
There is an interview where Hookstead (sp) interviews a former SAS guy who sums it up perfectly… The UK travels to war in America’s pocket (paraphrase.)
I doubt the UK has enough personnel, equipment, or ammo to make it 2mo. But, that is better than Germany which is quoted as saying two days. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:12:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmyInfantryVet]
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I'm sure they'll just keep voicing big concerns about MIC production capacity. And continue standing around with their thumbs up their ass instead of fixing the problem.
Ya know.... like they've done since Feb 22 |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:12:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LittlePony]
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Considering most of them fail to meet their required expenditure to meet NATO yearly requirements for decades now this is no surprise.
None of them after ww2 ended has ever spent enough on defense, if they all spent a solid 3% from 1950 to now they would be in better shape. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:13:58 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R_S: If only the UK was following this doctrine: They would have a whole lot more armed and trained men. But royals don't really care much for a free state. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R_S: If only the UK was following this doctrine: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. They would have a whole lot more armed and trained men. But royals don't really care much for a free state. With the UK being overrun with mooslimbs and immigrants from mooslimb countries, it’s probably better their population doesn’t have easy access to firearms. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:14:02 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: It was always going to go to nukes quick. Problems there too https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/03/26/inside-battle-replace-britain-ageing-nuclear-deterrent/ |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:14:42 PM EDT
[#14]
Don't they only have something like 200 tanks?
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:15:08 PM EDT
[#15]
Well, better hope they don’t get any more froggy eh?
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:16:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: buck19delta]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deadmau5er: The UK couldn't fight the Republic of Congo for two months without America helping them these days. This. I bet good money the ky national guard with only guard military assets / people , without fed gov involvement could defeat the UK. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:29:26 PM EDT
[#17]
Well then, I guess UK/Europe better get busy spending some money for military assets and personnel.
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:31:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: This. I bet good money the ky national guard with only guard military assets / people , without fed gov involvement could defeat the UK. Easily. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:34:11 PM EDT
[#19]
When the world starts printing money to buy real military supplies, inflation will be double digits for years.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:34:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:38:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlockPride: Well then, I guess UK/Europe better get busy spending some money for military assets and personnel. Never happen . They’ve got muslims to surrender to |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:40:12 PM EDT
[#22]
The UK doesn't need 2 months they'd have the Russians beat in two weeks .
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:41:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Thread title indicates Europe but OP says UK.
Either way, all those nations are pussies who ride our coattails. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:42:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I'm sure they'll just keep voicing big concerns about MIC production capacity. And continue standing around with their thumbs up their ass instead of fixing the problem. Ya know.... like they've done since Feb 22 Yup. its not like they had a huge glaring use case staring them in the face for 2 years.. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:43:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: snubfan]
[#25]
If an intense war occurs, in order to negotiate peace, I wouldn't be surprised to see a new 10-nation alliance formed between select EU countries including both Great Britain and Russia.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:49:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Media_Noche: Thread title indicates Europe but OP says UK. Either way, all those nations are pussies who ride our coattails. Depending on source UK has been Europe’s #2 ranked military - sometimes it was listed as #1 or #3 https://www.euronews.com/2023/09/06/poland-said-its-army-will-soon-be-the-strongest-in-europe-but-is-that-possible  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:54:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Media_Noche: Thread title indicates Europe but OP says UK. Either way, all those nations are pussies who ride our coattails. Since Britain can’t fit with ARF thread title space limitations I’ll just change title to UK and skip reference to NATO or Europe but my original point is if Britain is in that bad of shape and everyone already knows how bad of shape Germany is then what is the state of the rest minus Poland?  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 4:03:03 PM EDT
[#28]
Ditto with La Grand Armee (French). With exception of Niger, it's sufficient for putting down former colonies. No way it can take on Russia. How do they supply their army from across the Continent? Easy-peasy for the Rooskies but not so for the Lion and the Rooster.
Even if contingents of British and French went to U-Crane, they would be deployed along the BeloRussian border to free other U-Crane forces for their Drang Nach Osten. Putin won't tolerate open deployment and will probaby bomb the sh*t out of them. Then what would NATO do? |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:08:44 PM EDT
[#29]
Forgot to post this previously
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/army-applicants-give-up-after-waiting-six-months-to-join-dn2vtbfdd |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:09:19 PM EDT
[#30]
UK alone in a conventional fight?
I believe it. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:13:04 PM EDT
[#31]
Then he failed at his job.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:27:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2033_jpeg-3171946.JPG |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:37:52 PM EDT
[#33]
Might as well go ahead and surrender, then.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:40:42 PM EDT
[#34]
The UK only needs enough weapons to escalate a conflict until the US gets involved
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:44:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: The UK only needs enough weapons to escalate a conflict until the US gets involved If and I’m not saying I can predict the future but if the US gets involved in a war with China I doubt the U.S. could do more than a squadron of Air Guard F-16 aircraft and a mix of Army Reserves & Guard support battalions |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:47:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: UK alone in a conventional fight? I believe it. If there was a war with China the Australia part of the commonwealth forces would be busy, maybe a brigade from Canada? |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:50:47 PM EDT
[#37]
Could we get the Uke Bros in here to call him a Putin Stooge?
I'm not sure Britain could take on the foreigners in London for longer than 2 weeks. Russia has proven to be a paper tiger. A lot of NATO countries are tissue tigers. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:55:42 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnh57: Maybe Europe should just go ahead and surrender now and get it over with. Don't be a loser. They need to up their game and make some sacrifices. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:57:04 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cranberry1: The UK doesn't need 2 months they'd have the Russians beat in two weeks .  |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:06:51 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnh57: Maybe Europe should just go ahead and surrender now and get it over with. That's funny and pretty much is what they would do. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:11:33 PM EDT
[#41]
Maybe if the funded their military properly and introduced conscription they might stand a chance.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:21:23 PM EDT
[#42]
What a bunch of shit. Russia has zero interest in trying to invade an island in the North Atlantic that is second largest signatory to the NATO treaty. They sure are trying to drum up drama aren't they.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sketti: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sketti: Originally Posted By cranberry1: The UK doesn't need 2 months they'd have the Russians beat in two weeks . I'm not sure why your laughing because it's true the UK by itself would fuck Russia up in a heartbeat . |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:41:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: If there was a war with China the Australia part of the commonwealth forces would be busy, maybe a brigade from Canada? I believe we've moved a shit ton of equipment to Australia in the past year. |
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COL
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:53:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HighlandMac]
[#45]
Amazing how the once legitimate superpower of the world couldn’t currently fight its way out of a wet paper bag. I guess it’s good they are an island.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:00:20 PM EDT
[#46]
Churchill would be sad.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:02:48 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cranberry1: I'm not sure why your laughing because it's true the UK by itself would fuck Russia up in a heartbeat . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cranberry1: Originally Posted By Sketti: Originally Posted By cranberry1: The UK doesn't need 2 months they'd have the Russians beat in two weeks . I'm not sure why your laughing because it's true the UK by itself would fuck Russia up in a heartbeat . |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:03:28 PM EDT
[#48]
Whelp
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USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:06:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ronin72]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R_S: A well The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. FIFY |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:09:06 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: May as well send all of their equipment to Ukraine! They already did, that's why they can't fight Russia. |
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