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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:18:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlyLeaf: Hello Vietnam The more things change the more things stay the same. 🤔 |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:30:23 PM EDT
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 CCR-Fortunate Son. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:37:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:56:47 PM EDT
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60? I hope to God it's a B team minus.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By battlemidget: 60? I hope to God it's a B team minus. BM gets it |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:15:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Oldgold: Probably why Johnson did what he did. We are about to go to war in the Middle East, Ukraine, or both. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:23:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkLordVader: Let's not forget Taiwan for the trifecta. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkLordVader: Originally Posted By Oldgold: Probably why Johnson did what he did. We are about to go to war in the Middle East, Ukraine, or both. We're not going to war in the Middle East. Maybe some airstrikes and special forces raids against the Houthis, but we're not going to commit troops to fight Iran. Most likely not Taiwan either, unless Xi is totally insane. Ukraine...I doubt it. But it's the likeliest of the three. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:34:36 AM EDT
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I'm sure the faded one is at the head of the line with ideas on how to win.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:41:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By twistedcomrade: WTF, is this Ukraine day in GD?  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By twistedcomrade: WTF, is this Ukraine day in GD? OP posts a lot of Ukraine threads. I mentioned this and someone commented and showed I had posted 8. A few weeks ago I counted OP's and he had posted 16. That person never responded, but it's kind of funny. Originally Posted By OregonShooter: I'm sure the faded one is at the head of the line with ideas on how to win. Please tag me next time, @fadedsun or @cincAFUGD @cincUAFGD also works  My philosophy on this is a lot closer to Trump than Biden. 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:52:36 AM EDT
[#10]
 Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young "Ohio" |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:55:45 AM EDT
[#11]
 Thunderclap Newman - Something In The Air |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:30:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bohr_Adam]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By twistedcomrade: WTF, is this Ukraine day in GD? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By twistedcomrade: WTF, is this Ukraine day in GD? Rule 8. The Rules 1. "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have." 2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people." 3. "Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy." 4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." 5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage." 6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy." 7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." 8. "Keep the pressure on." 9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." 10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." 11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative." 12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." 13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:32:00 AM EDT
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When this aid package fails, and the Ukes are still getting fucked hard..
The Uke bros will be demanding we move in to save them. Just remember this when it happens... They just can't help themselves. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:34:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: With all the Ukrainian flag wavers in Washington I'm surprised we don't have 200k+ troops over there already Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: With all the Ukrainian flag wavers in Washington I'm surprised we don't have 200k+ troops over there already By that same token the TXNG and TXSG should have tens of thousands of volunteers and swell with the numbers of new guys. Did that happen? Originally Posted By somaliskinnypirate: Lol....so, when the "embassy" is hypersonic'd, we can cry wolf and attack Russia like Iran attacked Israel...its all so tiresome... Use Skype...surely the consultants have internet ?  I don't think we are putting our Embassy near a school, mall, apartment houses, or a train station. Originally Posted By ThreadKiller: When this aid package fails, and the Ukes are still getting fucked hard.. The Uke bros will be demanding we move in to save them. Just remember this when it happens... They just can't help themselves. So you're saying the aid package won't get pass the senate? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:57:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: So you're saying the aid package won't get pass the senate? No. Of course not. I am saying when it fails to get results. When it falls short of winning the war. You will be advocating to send US troops when the Ukes are on the ropes. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:48:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThreadKiller: No. Of course not. I am saying when it fails to get results. When it falls short of winning the war. You will be advocating to send US troops when the Ukes are on the ropes. What are the defined results of the aid package? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:13:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Explorer225: That was my thought when I heard the word advisors. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Explorer225: Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Hello Vietnam That was my thought when I heard the word advisors.  |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:17:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: Same here. Â https://media2.giphy.com/media/46gvKZIeHwQrS/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952xke547hw7fsy5uzqis7diu7clfvd2kcks8k29g6y&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By Explorer225: Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Hello Vietnam That was my thought when I heard the word advisors. https://media2.giphy.com/media/46gvKZIeHwQrS/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952xke547hw7fsy5uzqis7diu7clfvd2kcks8k29g6y&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g Y'all guys DO remember that the advisors went to Vietnam sixty years ago, right? And that we've had advisors in dozens of other countries since, right? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:19:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: With all the Ukrainian flag wavers in Washington I'm surprised we don't have 200k+ troops over there already |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:28:11 PM EDT
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no .mil should be in Ukraine, not our war.
We can advise from nearby countries. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:30:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Y'all guys DO remember that the advisors went to Vietnam sixty years ago, right? Â And that we've had advisors in dozens of other countries since, right? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By Explorer225: Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Hello Vietnam That was my thought when I heard the word advisors. https://media2.giphy.com/media/46gvKZIeHwQrS/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952xke547hw7fsy5uzqis7diu7clfvd2kcks8k29g6y&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g Y'all guys DO remember that the advisors went to Vietnam sixty years ago, right? Â And that we've had advisors in dozens of other countries since, right? this is true, but ukraine has a lot of similarities to vietnam. one significant issue is we cant support ukraine using us weapons in significant ways to attack roosha. because nukes (i assume). like we couldnt support troops invading the north because it would make chyna come into the war. roosha has shown that it doesnt care about sending its troops into the meat grinder, they are not running out of ammo, they are producing more and ukraine is stuck in a stalemate. there is no reason for pootin to give up. what happens if it become obvious that urkaine cannot win? what happens if the advisors start getting killed? ukraine is a tar baby. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:31:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: With all the Ukrainian flag wavers in Washington I'm surprised we don't have 200k+ troops over there already I often wonder about that myself. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:41:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThreadKiller: When this aid package fails, and the Ukes are still getting fucked hard.. The Uke bros will be demanding we move in to save them. Just remember this when it happens... They just can't help themselves. No. Actually the whole point was to KEEP IT from ever getting to this point. WAY MORE aid earlier would have helped. But we dragged our feet. Delay the long range missiles. Delay the aircraft. Delay the ADA. Delay the cluster munitions. Etc We are here now because of FAILURE to do more — sooner. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:41:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By st0newall: this is true, but ukraine has a lot of similarities to vietnam. one significant issue is we cant support ukraine using us weapons in significant ways to attack roosha. because nukes (i assume). like we couldnt support troops invading the north because it would make chyna come into the war. roosha has shown that it doesnt care about sending its troops into the meat grinder, they are not running out of ammo, they are producing more and ukraine is stuck in a stalemate. there is no reason for pootin to give up. what happens if it become obvious that urkaine cannot win? what happens if the advisors start getting killed? ukraine is a tar baby. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By st0newall: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By Explorer225: Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Hello Vietnam That was my thought when I heard the word advisors. https://media2.giphy.com/media/46gvKZIeHwQrS/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952xke547hw7fsy5uzqis7diu7clfvd2kcks8k29g6y&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g Y'all guys DO remember that the advisors went to Vietnam sixty years ago, right? Â And that we've had advisors in dozens of other countries since, right? this is true, but ukraine has a lot of similarities to vietnam. one significant issue is we cant support ukraine using us weapons in significant ways to attack roosha. because nukes (i assume). like we couldnt support troops invading the north because it would make chyna come into the war. roosha has shown that it doesnt care about sending its troops into the meat grinder, they are not running out of ammo, they are producing more and ukraine is stuck in a stalemate. there is no reason for pootin to give up. what happens if it become obvious that urkaine cannot win? what happens if the advisors start getting killed? ukraine is a tar baby. Vietnam was totally different. We could send troops to South Vietnam and fight the invaders from the north with American soldiers. We can't fight the Russians directly because it's the Russians themselves invading. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:34:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OregonShooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: No.  Actually the whole point was to KEEP IT from ever getting to this point. WAY MORE aid earlier would have helped.  But we dragged our feet. Delay the long range missiles.  Delay the aircraft.  Delay the ADA.  Delay the cluster munitions.  Etc We are here now because of FAILURE to do more — sooner. Your right. During the Olympics we should have given them a dozen patriot batteries then a couple dozen F16 aircraft. But they didn't know how to fly them so fuck it have totally not American Advisors fly them from bases in Poland... Biden could publicly declare a no fly zone over them for safety. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:36:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EastWest: I often wonder about that myself. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EastWest: Originally Posted By Commando223: With all the Ukrainian flag wavers in Washington I'm surprised we don't have 200k+ troops over there already I often wonder about that myself.  |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:45:11 PM EDT
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GOOOOOOD MOOOORRRNING UKRAINE! Doesn't have the same ring to it, and WW3's sound track is gonna suck anyway.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:13:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: No.  Actually the whole point was to KEEP IT from ever getting to this point. WAY MORE aid earlier would have helped.  But we dragged our feet. Delay the long range missiles.  Delay the aircraft.  Delay the ADA.  Delay the cluster munitions.  Etc We are here now because of FAILURE to do more — sooner. Had trump been elected this entire situation would not be the case. There would have been a completely more Effective and speedily run aid campaign And Most Importantly 90% of the opposed people here in “conservative circles” would be pro Ukraine because it would be “our guy” in office |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:25:13 PM EDT
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Unfortunately, we can't send all the prisoners in the United States serving life to fight for Ukraine. After two years don't they get citizenship?
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:28:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCER: That's how it always starts. We should make .mil service a condition of citizenship. wut... |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:30:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feetpiece: RLTW!  https://media.wbur.org/wp/2020/07/AP_20038805759356-1000x667.jpg |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:36:54 PM EDT
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Give them nukes.
Explain how they will nuke the grain fields, destroy nuke plants and burn the country to the ground before they let Russia have it. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:17:51 PM EDT
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Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Ukraine. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.
The reactionary shit here is sometimes unbelievable. I thought gun owners were the stoic and calm bedrock of masculinity. I guess there is some pearl clutching, catastrophizing dudes here too. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:19:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scrolledandtabbed: Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Ukraine. It doesn’t mean Vietnam. The reactionary shit here is sometimes unbelievable. I thought gun owners were the stoic and calm bedrock of masculinity. I guess there is some pearl clutching, catastrophizing dudes here too.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:26:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Basqueguy545]
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 Attached FileGuys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Ukraine. It doesn’t mean Vietnam. Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Afghanistan. It doesn’t mean Vietnam. Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Iraq. It doesn’t mean Vietnam. Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Vietnam. It doesn’t mean Vietnam. Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Korea. It doesn’t mean Vietnam. The reactionary shit here is sometimes unbelievable. I thought gun owners were the stoic and calm bedrock of masculinity. I guess there is some pearl clutching, catastrophizing dudes here too. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:32:10 PM EDT
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Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeev
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Posted: 4/25/2024 4:40:00 PM EDT
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:55:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Basqueguy545: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/subnetfavoritelol-1033.gif Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Ukraine. It doesn’t mean Vietnam. Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Afghanistan. It doesn’t mean Vietnam. Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Iraq. It doesn’t mean Vietnam. Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Vietnam. It doesn’t mean Vietnam. Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Korea. It doesn’t mean Vietnam. The reactionary shit here is sometimes unbelievable. I thought gun owners were the stoic and calm bedrock of masculinity. I guess there is some pearl clutching, catastrophizing dudes here too. We didn't send combat advisors initially into Iraq or Vietnam. Those were invasions my dude. Nobody got in front of the press and said "its just military advisors, we're not escalating". The guys in Ukraine are not engaging in combat. They are special operations but they are literally hanging around the embassy making sure people are safe and assisting with the aid flowing in. Read the article. We literally have special operations in dozens of countries as advisors. It doesn't mean the government is setting us up for war. OHMYGOD GREEN BERETS IN ECUADOR! They're dragging us into war!  Oh piss oh fuck Marines in Africa! It must be war!  That damn Biden! Army Rangers are getting dragged into war with..... Italy?  I am not an expert on a lot of things - but on this one I am as close to knowing the ground truth as you're going to get. I get it you guys don't like Biden. Not many do, and for damn good reason. But just, choose the right battles, man. 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:00:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scrolledandtabbed: We didn't send combat advisors initially into Iraq or Vietnam. Those were invasions my dude. Nobody got in front of the press and said "its just military advisors, we're not escalating". The guys in Ukraine are not engaging in combat. They are special operations but they are literally hanging around the embassy making sure people are safe and assisting with the aid flowing in. Read the article. We literally have special operations in dozens of countries as advisors. It doesn't mean the government is setting us up for war. OHMYGOD GREEN BERETS IN ECUADOR! They're dragging us into war! https://d1ldvf68ux039x.cloudfront.net/thumbs/photos/2206/7249023/1000w_q95.jpg Oh piss oh fuck Marines in Africa! It must be war! https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/archetype/CE24EO7GRRDWFJVT7IQWSC3HC4.jpg That damn Biden! Army Rangers are getting dragged into war with..... Italy? https://c8.alamy.com/comp/PEH15X/us-soldiers-with-the-75th-ranger-regiment-and-italian-special-forces-conduct-a-training-raid-at-the-hohenfels-training-area-germany-during-exercise-swift-response-15-aug-26-2015-swift-response-15-is-the-us-armys-largest-combined-airborne-training-event-in-europe-since-the-end-of-the-cold-war-more-than-4800-service-members-from-11-nato-nations-including-bulgaria-france-germany-greece-italy-the-netherlands-poland-portugal-spain-the-united-kingdom-and-the-united-states-will-take-part-in-the-exercise-on-training-areas-in-bulgaria-germany-italy-and-romania-aug-17-sept-PEH15X.jpg I am not an expert on a lot of things - but on this one I am as close to knowing the ground truth as you're going to get. I get it you guys don't like Biden. Not many do, and for damn good reason. But just, choose the right battles, man. https://i.imgur.com/kgnb6W5.jpg Unfortunately, you're asking too much. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:09:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: Advisors you say? 18Z50…..I sort of an advisor myself. Isn't there a new "advisor" MOS. They have their own color beret? |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:14:17 AM EDT
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Mike Johnson says he's seen the briefing and we muat win the current thing wars.
My question...the same briefings they were giving out over the 4 trillion war in Afghanistan...that we juat walked away from? These people only know lies and death |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:21:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By T1NMAN: Mike Johnson says he's seen the briefing and we muat win the current thing wars. My question...the same briefings they were giving out over the 4 trillion war in Afghanistan...that we juat walked away from? These people only know lies and death You, umm...DO realize that Afghanistan stretched out over four presidential administrations and a shitload of different congresses? |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:31:30 AM EDT
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Yeah I can see were this is going
Time to start saving bottle caps |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:55:42 AM EDT
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Early Southeast Asia vibes coming in strong. What’s going to be the next “Fortunate Son” song for WWIII? Something by Taylor Swift?
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Posted: 4/26/2024 2:11:43 AM EDT
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Just as I predicted!
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:22:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sketti: Just as I predicted! 60 advisers are an army? |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:22:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: -Ascent-]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ruger556boy: Isn't there a new "advisor" MOS.  They have their own color beret? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ruger556boy: Originally Posted By 18B30: Advisors you say? 18Z50…..I sort of an advisor myself. Isn't there a new "advisor" MOS.  They have their own color beret? It’s called SFAB. It’s not a mos. It just takes all the maneuver, combat support, support mos and makes a team that mirrors SF task org. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:24:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: 60 advisers are an army? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Sketti: Just as I predicted! 60 advisers are an army? If they say there’s 60 advisors then there’s probably a 120+ “boots on the ground”. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:29:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Actiondiver]
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Remember when we seized Japan's assets because they attacked French territory called Indo-China & soon after embargoed them of oil because we needed money due to the Great Depression? Then they got all pissy & bombed Pearl Harbor & we acted like it was a surprise so we could get support to enter WW2?
https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-says-it-may-downgrade-ties-with-us-if-its-assets-are-confiscated-2024-04-25/ |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:06:33 AM EDT
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Last time the US did this, they got their asses handed to them🙄
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