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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:23:54 PM EDT
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The United Auto Workers union claimed victory in a closely watched election to represent 4,300 hourly workers at Volkswagen’s plant in Chattanooga, Tennessee late Friday night, a major breakthrough in its effort to organize workers at non-union auto plants nationwide. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:24:53 PM EDT
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Just more wage-price spiral inflation in the making (a la Ford).
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:25:50 PM EDT
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Here for union hate. (and coke at lunch)
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:26:52 PM EDT
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I thought Germans loved unions
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:28:21 PM EDT
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And the move to mexico begins
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USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:29:12 PM EDT
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The workers will regret this, more robotics in production area. Look for reduced content, higher retail prices for VW products. The UAW is a blood sucking leach.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:29:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fullautoguy: I thought Germans loved unions |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:29:33 PM EDT
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I’m not sure how many ARFCOMers own a VW.
Interesting development with so many moving to Tennessee. Coincidence? |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:30:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eurotrash]
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I was a UAW employee as an English tutor at my university. I also drive a VW made in Mexico.
The UAW will scrape the bottom of the barrel to make sure their “average salary” is lower than you think. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:30:53 PM EDT
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This will be the union's 2nd success with VW. The last time they have no problem closed the factory. How to say in German: Bye again ya lazy MFers!
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:31:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Porkchop_Sandwiches: I’m not sure how many ARFCOMers own a VW. Interesting development with so many moving to Tennessee. Coincidence? No, I’m not following. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:42:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fullautoguy: I thought Germans loved unions American union DNA has a lot more socialism and organized crime in it. VW thinks they can partner with the UAW in Tennessee. They are in for a rude awakening. Prediction: VW will be out of Tennessee within 5 years. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:43:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkyFive: The workers will regret this...... The UAW is a blood sucking leach. I was in a union once, part of USW. Those union dues add up. Every time I got a raise, so did the union. Overall, i really didn't net much more than I did when I wasn't union. Only benefit was sort of a "protected" job, as long as the contract was in place. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:45:00 PM EDT
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I liked VW better when they were cheating the EPA.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:45:04 PM EDT
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Now that the employees will race to reach the lowest common denominator, VW reliability will be even more elusive.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:50:16 PM EDT
[#15]
So, will VW cars be even shittier than before?
Dollar for dollar I'd rather buy a fucking Kia. |
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AS, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:50:40 PM EDT
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More money for the democRat slush fund
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:54:16 PM EDT
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They should have asked Saturn workers in Tennessee how well that worked out for them.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:55:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Porkchop_Sandwiches: Click here The United Auto Workers union claimed victory in a closely watched election to represent 4,300 hourly workers at Volkswagen’s plant in Chattanooga, Tennessee late Friday night, a major breakthrough in its effort to organize workers at non-union auto plants nationwide. I dont understand the Mafia I mean Unions. Cant they say fuck off to them? |
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USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:57:42 PM EDT
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Tennessee is a right to work state, employee's don't have to join the UAW at VW.
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:03:10 AM EDT
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TN will slowly grow to have mini Detroits and the state will turn, I think. Maybe in 20-30 years.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:34:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Narwhals]
[#21]
Cue the heavy investment in robots and automation.
Fuck the uaw and most if not all labor unions. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:37:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bunnysriflestock: They should have asked Saturn workers in Tennessee how well that worked out for them. GM's incompetence destroyed Saturn... |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:41:40 AM EDT
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Oof….
First that have to resort to chasing customers in the Nissan/Mitsubishi/Stellantis shallow end of the pool, now the UAW. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:47:28 AM EDT
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Vw hasn’t produced a good car since the mk2 era
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:50:25 AM EDT
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VWs were overpriced already, now will be moreso.
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:51:07 AM EDT
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Doesn't VW also own Porsche? If so, I'm surprised they haven't fucked up Porsche as well.
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:54:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ghostface]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: Just more wage-price spiral inflation in the making (a la Ford). Yeah! How dare those guys want a better wage….dont they know they should sacrifice their livelihood for the big shots so they can give themselves larger record breaking bonuses? They shouldn’t look at other industries getting raises, including those at Arfcom. We need to be able to buy their products at a cheaper price so they must sacrifice for us. The only real reason why vehicles costs so much is solely because of the cost of labor. You know the big shots will keep prices of the products down only if the employees don’t get paid too much. You know that , right? |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:56:48 AM EDT
[#28]
Tennessee going blue. 🙁
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Posted: 4/20/2024 12:58:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ghostface: Yeah! How dare those guys want a better wage….dont they know they should sacrifice their livelihood for the big shots so they can give themselves larger record breaking bonuses? They shouldn’t look at other industries getting raises, including those at Arfcom. We need to be able to buy their products at a cheaper price so they must sacrifice for us. The only real reason why vehicles costs so much is solely because of the cost of labor. You know the big shots will keep prices of the products down only if the employees don’t get paid too much. You know that , right? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ghostface: Originally Posted By KILLERB6: Just more wage-price spiral inflation in the making (a la Ford). Yeah! How dare those guys want a better wage….dont they know they should sacrifice their livelihood for the big shots so they can give themselves larger record breaking bonuses? They shouldn’t look at other industries getting raises, including those at Arfcom. We need to be able to buy their products at a cheaper price so they must sacrifice for us. The only real reason why vehicles costs so much is solely because of the cost of labor. You know the big shots will keep prices of the products down only if the employees don’t get paid too much. You know that , right? Just be careful you don’t kill the host. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 1:00:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ghostface: Yeah! How dare those guys want a better wage….dont they know they should sacrifice their livelihood for the big shots so they can give themselves larger record breaking bonuses? They shouldn’t look at other industries getting raises, including those at Arfcom. We need to be able to buy their products at a cheaper price so they must sacrifice for us. The only real reason why vehicles costs so much is solely because of the cost of labor. You know the big shots will keep prices of the products down only if the employees don’t get paid too much. You know that , right? You know the union bosses aren’t about the workers right??? |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 1:09:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Just be careful you don’t kill the host. I agree, balanace is everything in life but let’s not be naive either when it comes to the automotive industry in the U.S…. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 1:11:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: I was a UAW employee as an English tutor at my university. I also drive a VW made in Mexico. The UAW will scrape the bottom of the barrel to make sure their “average salary” is lower than you think. Uhh, UAW is United Auto Workers. English teachers don't fall under Auto Workers. Thank God when I worked at an auto plant we were non union. Unions are scum. I put politicians and unions at the same level. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 1:14:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Porkchop_Sandwiches: Click here The United Auto Workers union claimed victory in a closely watched election to represent 4,300 hourly workers at Volkswagen’s plant in Chattanooga, Tennessee late Friday night, a major breakthrough in its effort to organize workers at non-union auto plants nationwide. I sure hope they like watching more of their capacity shifted back down to Mexico. Just like Ford GM and Chrysler. Toyota already has expanded operations in Mexico in case workers at their TMM plants vote to go Democrat. I mean union. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 1:37:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkyFive: Tennessee is a right to work state, employee's don't have to join the UAW at VW. Why do you want the non union guy’s wives and kids harassed by the union bruddas? |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 7:27:34 AM EDT
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How does that work in an "at will" state?
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Posted: 4/20/2024 7:30:00 AM EDT
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UAW will keep voting until they get what they want. More likely it will be what they need instead and the plant closes.
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Posted: 4/20/2024 7:38:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: How does that work in an "at will" state? You won't be required to join the union. But they'll make more than VW will pay you without the union and you'll be the first laid off. So you'll join. 
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Posted: 4/20/2024 7:47:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: They do, but most of their experience is worth German unions. German unions have the old craft guilds on their DNA, which highly prized skill and craftsmanship. VW in Germany has more of a partner relationship with the unions rather than adversarial. American union DNA has a lot more socialism and organized crime in it. VW thinks they can partner with the UAW in Tennessee. They are in for a rude awakening. Prediction: VW will be out of Tennessee within 5 years. Want a little support for that prediction? VW broke ground on a new EV plant 15-20 miles from me. It was supposed to be the new Scout EV, a bastardized imitation of the old IH Scout, but all EV. EV’s sales have plummeted world wide. They’ve invested millions already and received millions in tax breaks to come to SC. Just waiting on the announcement now that the plant will no longer be an EV plant. I honestly thought they would pull the plug on the project, but tooling up for the next gen ICE makes more sense now. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 7:50:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNgan: This will be the union's 2nd success with VW. The last time they have no problem closed the factory. How to say in German: Bye again ya lazy MFers! Which plant was that ? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 7:57:16 AM EDT
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I can't speak for the private sector, but the FOP was the best thing we ever did at my old agency. It stopped many illegal labor practices and got some dumb ass Sheriffs I worked for to get their shit together. Now the private sector, I don't know if that is a good idea.
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:01:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobbyHill: You won't be required to join the union. But they'll make more than VW will pay you without the union and you'll be the first laid off. So you'll join. just as long as your dues to goes commies running for office, i guess it is good. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:08:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deerhurst: Uhh, UAW is United Auto Workers. English teachers don't fall under Auto Workers. Thank God when I worked at an auto plant we were non union. Unions are scum. I put politicians and unions at the same level. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deerhurst: Originally Posted By eurotrash: I was a UAW employee as an English tutor at my university. I also drive a VW made in Mexico. The UAW will scrape the bottom of the barrel to make sure their “average salary” is lower than you think. Uhh, UAW is United Auto Workers. English teachers don't fall under Auto Workers. Thank God when I worked at an auto plant we were non union. Unions are scum. I put politicians and unions at the same level. They scooped up all the tutors and teachers aides at my university. This was to lower the average wage of the UAW worker on-paper. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:11:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aquaman67: Which plant was that ? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aquaman67: Originally Posted By TNgan: This will be the union's 2nd success with VW. The last time they have no problem closed the factory. How to say in German: Bye again ya lazy MFers! Which plant was that ? Westmoreland PA. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:12:06 AM EDT
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I hope they shut it down but ze Germans love them some unions. People are stupid.
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:12:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: How does that work in an "at will" state? When I worked at a place that had a union you did not have to join. The company paid everyone the same and everyone had the same benefits. I did not pay union dues. I left for a higher paying non union job with more opportunity to advance. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:24:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Arty8: And the move to mexico begins Yep, fucking retards still haven’t figured that out. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:27:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Arty8: And the move to mexico begins First thought to pop into my mind. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:28:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobbyHill: You won't be required to join the union. But they'll make more than VW will pay you without the union and you'll be the first laid off. So you'll join. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobbyHill: Originally Posted By gotigers: How does that work in an "at will" state? You won't be required to join the union. But they'll make more than VW will pay you without the union and you'll be the first laid off. So you'll join. Lot of places pay the same whether you join the union or not. The biggest issue will be all the harassment to join, notes left on your vehicle, snide remarks, etc. When I was 18 and actually in a union I still caught shit for parking my non-union car in a "union" parking lot.  I've since managed to stay non-union in a union heavy industry for almost 40 years and make way more $$$ than would've been possible if I was a union bro. Seen a bunch of union guys laid off over those decades and I'm still here.
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USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:28:55 AM EDT
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Arf loves freedom right?
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:40:34 AM EDT
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If Unions Are Breaking Automakers, Why Are BMW and Mercedes So Rich?
In Germany, auto workers get paid well and their companies still profit.................let the confusion begin. |
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