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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:28:19 PM EDT
What’s your tier one weed killer suggestion that won’t also kill grass (sod if that’s important)
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:29:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#1]
2,4-D.  I use a liquid concentrate (~ 45%) in a $10 pump sprayer

One brand of many
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:30:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DaveM4K] [#2]
Originally Posted By glocktalk:
What’s your tier one weed killer suggestion that won’t also kill grass (sod if that’s important)
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Trimec 992 and its not even close.


https://www.solutionsstores.com/trimec-922-herbicide?sku=GORD10&srsltid=AfmBOoouxyPhq0R11uuTs1WwqgACr1XxQYFMjQzEGdDqtDfuo97Ff3Maq8E#156=943
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:30:58 PM EDT
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Speedzone.  Has 2-4d
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:33:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:34:20 PM EDT
[#5]
Lesco Momentum Q

2-4–D and Quinclorac nuke just about every undesirable.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:36:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: usp4u] [#6]
Rural King house brand 53.8% glysophate.

Dead, stays dead.

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Sorry, thought you wanted total veg killer.



I use Trimec weed and broadleaf killer.  Works great
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:39:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gutter1000:
Speedzone.  Has 2-4d
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It's good , also takes out Nimblewill and Goosegrass . Price point is a little high .
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:47:35 PM EDT
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In the past I have used a product called Vapam.  It is so good that probably the EPA has banned it by now.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:47:40 PM EDT
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I use Tenacity, but it’s a little gentle on the weeds.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:48:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kilroytheknifesnob:
I use Tenacity, but it’s a little gentle on the weeds.
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I use this for removing bent grass
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:49:15 PM EDT
[#11]
Tenacity and Q Ball
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:50:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick:
Lesco Momentum Q

2-4–D and Quinclorac nuke just about every undesirable.
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I have always had good results form lesco's three way selective. Used it for years on ohio lawns with excellent kill rates on hard to kill stuff like clover.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:58:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tarheel2007] [#13]
Not enough information. The answer to your question depends a lot on the type of grass you have and what weeds you’re trying to kill. Also are there any exposed tree roots or anything where you plan on spraying?

ETA: be careful using a lot of these more hardcore weed killers on sod that isn’t established yet.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 8:58:29 PM EDT
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2-4-d.
If its a woody weed 2-4d works ok but you should use something like Remedy.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 9:02:28 PM EDT
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2,4-d is good stuff but you have to be careful of the vapors killing stuff 30 feet away that you didn't want killed.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 9:10:56 PM EDT
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First question is what kind of grass?

What kind of weeds are you trying to kill. Some weeds are hard to kill and if you’re not putting down a pre emergence you are wasting your time and money.  

Atrazine will kill Bermuda grass.

Centipede can’t handle 2-4-D but you can use Atrazine.

Any product with 2-4-D will burn your grass if the temperature goes over 85 degrees.

There are multiple products for different weeds. There is not one that works best.
Get ready to spend some dollars on weed killers that work and want kill your grass.
These are measured in grams for one gallon of water per 1000 sq feet. I would estimate I have $800.00 plus in powder chemicals that weigh less than 2 pounds. Granted some will last a while if stored properly. I do split with a couple of people to help on cost.

I only know about warn season grasses mostly Bermuda and don’t know a lot. Just enough not to smoke my grass. If you have cool weather grass no idea.

Even with all that I got a fungus late year and my grass has not recovered. Now it’s lots of fertilizer and mowing trying to get it to fill back in.

You would be better off going over to the Lawn Forum and read the info there for advice.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 9:13:03 PM EDT
[#17]
Q4
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 9:20:41 PM EDT
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Speedzone.  Has 2-4d
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This is the way.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 9:28:51 PM EDT
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For southern lawns - Bayer (now Envu) Celsius. Mixed per directions.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 9:29:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By glocktalk:
What’s your tier one weed killer suggestion that won’t also kill grass (sod if that’s important)
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What kind of grass do you have? I own a weed control/fertilization company in Georgia
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 5:16:29 AM EDT
[#21]
Fire. I use fire.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 6:01:21 AM EDT
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What’s the solution for Johnson grass and clover in a TTTF lawn?
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 6:26:43 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/10/2024 6:35:00 AM EDT
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Until you identify your principal grass and identify your weeds for us, people are only able to guess what you need. Your grass could be my weed, and vice versa. At the very least, you need to tell people whether you have grassy weeds or broadleaf weeds.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 6:35:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gutter1000:
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This.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 6:36:56 AM EDT
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Lot is dependent on time of year, heat, etc.  Glyphosate will kill anything it touches for the most part. There are some weeds that have become herbicide resistant, so you need to alternate.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 6:38:19 AM EDT
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Used moto oil works
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 6:43:53 AM EDT
[#28]
As others have said, Trimec, I have also had good results with Crossbow.

Add a surfactant to the mix to improve the results and understand that this type of herbicide doesn't do a burn down like Glyphosate. 24-48 hours after application you will see the leaves and stems curl up. The entire plant will die in 7 to 14 days depending on condition and application rate.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 6:44:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Anonymoose1:
What’s the solution for Johnson grass and clover in a TTTF lawn?
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Spot treat with glyphosate for the Johnsongrass. Depending on which clover you have, 2,4-d might control it or might just burn the leaves off of it and make you think you killed it. GD greenieweenies will shit, but 2,4-d + dicamba is what you seek for most clover. Or triclopyr if you prefer.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 7:39:10 AM EDT
[#30]
Tordon.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 7:41:54 AM EDT
[#31]
You need to find out what kind of grass you have and what kind of weeds you're looking to kill. Go to domyown.com and search what you're trying to kill. You might pixie wrong herbicide and kill off your turf grass.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 7:45:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
2,4-D.  I use a liquid concentrate (~ 45%) in a $10 pump sprayer

One brand of many
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FP and all , 2,4-D a squirt of dawn dish soap makes it a little more effective and still doesn't kill grass.  If you want to kill darn near everything add a little diesel fuel to the mix
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 10:04:21 AM EDT
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Lol, so 24d.  Look for some lo-vol 6 24d, it's 6# of AI.  Dicamba works good just don't spray above 80° if you got ornamental, garden, or fruit trees, shit will invert and walk off
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 10:07:17 AM EDT
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Haven't found one that is marked safe for St. Augustine that is actually safe.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 10:08:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By usp4u:
Rural King house brand 53.8% glysophate.

Dead, stays dead.

Edit
Sorry, thought you wanted total veg killer.



I use Trimec weed and broadleaf killer.  Works great
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There's a lot of broadleaves thar glyphosate won't touch, anymore glypho is a grass killer.  Liberty by itself or glypho+24d or dicamba for total vegetation kill.  Adding a surfactant package like li700 or at min a crop oil to 24d/dicamba provides a better kill in tougher weeds/conditions
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