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Posted: 5/16/2024 1:07:01 AM EDT
Probably Airforce ICBMs and nuclear bombers.

But maybe the USN with its SSBN subs and nuclear armed carrier battlegroups.

NAVY is cooler with subs AND nuclear armed aircraft.

Which branch has more nukes?  And by how much?
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 1:08:32 AM EDT
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USAF
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I am Infantry.

Hear me roar.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 1:13:23 AM EDT
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Navy will fuck you up with sub launched ICBMs very quickly, but the USAF will make sure you don't even remember the subs.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 1:13:42 AM EDT
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I am Infantry.

Hear me roar.
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We always need bullet stoppers.

Thank you for your service
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 1:15:54 AM EDT
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Hm, USAF as the ground and air legs of the nuclear triad probably has the most firepower.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 1:19:44 AM EDT
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The NAVY has 14 SSBNs, each one carries 20 ICBMs with 90 nuclear warheads.  On each sub.

That is 1260 nuclear warheads.


the United States had 5,244 nuclear warheads.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 2:55:44 AM EDT
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Space Force has a bunch of UAPs so I bet them
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No nuclear armed ships or naval aircraft anymore, only Navy nukes are sub-launched ballistic missiles.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 4:18:17 AM EDT
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Air Force by a mile.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 4:52:43 AM EDT
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Just look at the big board.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 6:18:58 AM EDT
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USAF
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 6:35:18 AM EDT
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Normally carriers arent nuclear armed anymore.  They can be.

Airforce has most nuks
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 6:40:18 AM EDT
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The NAVY has 14 SSBNs, each one carries 20 ICBMs with 90 nuclear warheads.  On each sub.

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They’re not all carrying multi MIRV packages, as far as I know that’s relatively rare nowadays and most are single warhead busses with some 2-3 max along with decoy reentry bodies.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:07:30 AM EDT
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The majority of deployed nuclear weapons are under the charge of the U.S. Navy.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:20:02 AM EDT
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Fun fact: The Marines have never had operational control of a nuclear weapon.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:21:01 AM EDT
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Better question is who can project the most firepower unsupported and the furthest from CONUS. Navy hands down.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:21:27 AM EDT
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Do they let Marines have nukes?
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:23:38 AM EDT
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If you mean which branch is strongest, then you need to do some hr homework.

Remember, diversity is strength.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:26:22 AM EDT
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Of the deployed warheads, FAS estimates 400 are on intercontinental ballistic missiles [ICBMs], 970 on submarine-launched ballistic missiles [SLBMs], and 300 are located at bomber bases in the United States and approximately 100 tactical bombs are at European bases.

Seems the US Navy has the most deployed nuclear firepower just considering its submarines by a factor.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:27:25 AM EDT
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Navy. They have the second largest air force and the the largest navy combined, nuclear weapons and still have ground assets.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:27:56 AM EDT
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I can neither confirm or deny the presence of special weapons aboard the USS _____.  
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:29:12 AM EDT
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If by operational control, you mean the formal DoD definition, than by that standard no-one other than POTUS has OPCON.  But if mean had custody of, than the former Nuclear Ordnance Platoons that existed in each of the 3 Forces had that maintained custody of them would probably disagree.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:30:04 AM EDT
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I remember the Which State has the most Military Personnel.

That was a funny post like this one.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:30:45 AM EDT
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Last of them were turned in, in the 80s.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:31:04 AM EDT
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Department of the Navy
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Space Force for sure
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There is a good reason for that.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:52:11 AM EDT
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If by operational control, you mean the formal DoD definition, than by that standard no-one other than POTUS has OPCON.  But if mean had custody of, than the former Nuclear Ordnance Platoons that existed in each of the 3 Forces had that maintained custody of them would probably disagree.
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A Marine was never going to be tasked with pulling a nuclear "trigger".
They might have guarded them, but it was the Navy that would have fired them.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:53:07 AM EDT
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Because they might not be one point safe if they were covered in crayon infused drool.
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There is a good reason for that.

Because they'd be painted to look like huge dicks?
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:04:58 AM EDT
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My guess as well. I dare say, if not for LeMay, we wouldn’t own AR15’s.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:25:27 AM EDT
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If by operational control, you mean the formal DoD definition, than by that standard no-one other than POTUS has OPCON.  But if mean had custody of, than the former Nuclear Ordnance Platoons that existed in each of the 3 Forces had that maintained custody of them would probably disagree.


A Marine was never going to be tasked with pulling a nuclear "trigger".
They might have guarded them, but it was the Navy that would have fired them.


Artillerymen would have...
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:27:16 AM EDT
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Good. They'd have mated with it and we'd be in violation of the START treaty when the little nukes start getting born
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:27:23 AM EDT
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A Marine was never going to be tasked with pulling a nuclear "trigger".
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If by operational control, you mean the formal DoD definition, than by that standard no-one other than POTUS has OPCON.  But if mean had custody of, than the former Nuclear Ordnance Platoons that existed in each of the 3 Forces had that maintained custody of them would probably disagree.


A Marine was never going to be tasked with pulling a nuclear "trigger".
They might have guarded them, but it was the Navy that would have fired them.

Incorrect, the Marine Corps had a nuclear delivery mission via its air wing. And had possession of nuclear artillery shells for its force artillery group.

An acquaintance of mine was one of the A6 pilots kept a few on PRP specifically for that purpose and would be tasked to fly the mission. The PPE they were issued was one eyepatch for the BN and one for the pilot. The theory was they would have the patch over one eye in case, they were blinded by the flash they still would retain one eye to land the aircraft
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:41:58 AM EDT
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Still usaf
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:50:30 AM EDT
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https://thebulletin.org/premium/2023-01/nuclear-notebook-united-states-nuclear-weapons-2023/
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:54:17 AM EDT
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Today. That can take less than 24 hours to change if choose to.
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If by operational control, you mean the formal DoD definition, than by that standard no-one other than POTUS has OPCON.  But if mean had custody of, than the former Nuclear Ordnance Platoons that existed in each of the 3 Forces had that maintained custody of them would probably disagree.


A Marine was never going to be tasked with pulling a nuclear "trigger".
They might have guarded them, but it was the Navy that would have fired them.



WRONG...As a former nuke certified (0812) Nuke Artillery Projectileman, had the MOS as a secondary while I was a Bn. Ordnance Chief in a nuke capable unit. We most certainly WOULD HAVE been firing the big ugly bullet if ordered to do so.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 9:18:21 AM EDT
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The NAVY has 14 SSBNs, each one carries 20 ICBMs with 90 nuclear warheads.  On each sub.

That is 1260 nuclear warheads.


the United States had 5,244 nuclear warheads.
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The NAVY has 14 SSBNs, each one carries 20 ICBMs with 90 nuclear warheads.  On each sub.

That is 1260 nuclear warheads.


the United States had 5,244 nuclear warheads.

The percentage of SSBNs actually available to launch is much lower than for ICBMs.  On the other hand, none of the ICBMs are MIRVed anymore.  At 90 per boat 5 subs on patrol would carry more warheads than the total number of operational ICBM silos in the USAF.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 9:25:41 AM EDT
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As I understand it the Air Force has 400 operational Minuteman launch facilities but under current policy does not attempt to maximize the number actually on alert.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 9:29:35 AM EDT
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Thank God. Can you imagine a pregnant nuke giving birth?
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 9:38:02 AM EDT
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DHS.  Could any of our military branches move 20M troops into a foreign country over 3 years?
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No, it can't.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 9:51:42 AM EDT
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The Airforce has the other two legs of the nuclear triad, in sheer megatons of woop-ass the Airforce wins.

For being "sneaky bastards with nukes" the Navy gets an honorable mention.
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I sleep better at night knowing this....  nothing but love and respect for the USMC, but really it's for the best.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 9:57:21 AM EDT
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The Airforce has the other two legs of the nuclear triad, in sheer megatons of woop-ass the Airforce wins.

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The B-2 seems to fit in the "sneaky bastards" category.  
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:04:53 AM EDT
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I was under the impression that the Air Force controlled SSBN targeting packages and launches.  SSBNs are covert and disposable launch platforms operated by the Navy.
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Services have a training, manning and equipping mission.  In effect they are force providers to the warfighters who are the functional or geographic combatant commanders.  

Nuclear Weapons are in the custody of the services, but under the COCOM of US Strategic Command.   The Commanding General of US StratCom works for SECDEF and POTUS.
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The NAVY has 14 SSBNs, each one carries 20 ICBMs with 90 nuclear warheads.  On each sub.

That is 1260 nuclear warheads.


the United States had 5,244 nuclear warheads.
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The NAVY has 14 SSBNs, each one carries 20 ICBMs with 90 nuclear warheads.  On each sub.

That is 1260 nuclear warheads.


the United States had 5,244 nuclear warheads.


The USN could have more available.
Unlike an AR-15 lower, parts of nuclear weapons aren't technically nuclear weapons.
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