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Posted: 2/27/2024 9:04:59 PM EDT
On hulu right now, hope its as good as the trailer makes it out to be
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Posted: 2/27/2024 9:05:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By amendment: On hulu right now, hope its as good as the trailer makes it out to be Remake? |
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AS, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2024 9:17:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Remake? I guess so, never saw the original  Shogun - New Extended Trailer | Hiroyuki Sanada, Cosmo Jarvis, Anna Sawai | FX |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 9:20:24 PM EDT
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I wanted to watch the original again before starting this new one but I cant fond the original version anywhere.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 9:22:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Aimless]
[#4]
I saw the first episode. I only barely remember the original but think this is better. Supposedly the main female character is now a scrappy sword gurl but nothing on that so far.
The writing is good, "Anjin" is calculating and clever. Maybe it's just me but in the 1980 series the Japanese seemed more alien. The Japanese soldiers in this are better written. I edited out some mild spoilers |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 9:22:43 PM EDT
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Oh, nice. I just started watching Justified. Will watch this next.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 9:23:08 PM EDT
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22 minutes in. It's great so far.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2024 9:23:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: st0newall]
[#7]
what is the cheapest way to watch this? i dont get hulu or fx. there are simply too many 'streaming' services these days.
the original from the 80s was great. the book is great also. he wrote a number of good books. i think his first was king rat |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 9:24:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By st0newall: what is the cheapest way to watch this? i dont get hulu or fx. there are simply too many 'streaming' services these days. Hulu is $16.00 a month. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/27/2024 9:29:17 PM EDT
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No interest.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 10:04:44 PM EDT
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Waiting for the other two episodes so I can binge it.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 10:09:31 PM EDT
[#11]
Saw the first two. So far it’s been pretty good.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 10:17:07 PM EDT
[#12]
I’m watching Kung Fu Hustle instead.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 10:17:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Been waiting on this since last year. Re-read the book a month ago to re-familiarize myself with it.
It is more or less following the original mini series (and the book) thus far. Way more effort has been put into it. The first two episodes aired today and thus far it is excellent. |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 10:33:33 PM EDT
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I am a huge fan of both the book and the 80's TV miniseries.
I watched the first two episodes. I noticed Lady Moriko has a more forceful role in this version. She ordered Blackthorn to refer to her as Mariko-sama. IIRC in the book and miniseries she is Mariko-chan. She would not rate sama and I am not sure about san. I hope this is not a sign this is going to be another girl power remake of something. |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 10:36:03 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm going in totally blind.
Really hope it's good. |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 10:37:57 PM EDT
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I want to, but directv is out.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 10:59:19 PM EDT
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The book was a bit too rapey and gross for me. I really enjoyed Taipan.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 11:03:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Well. This is off to a great start.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 11:10:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By st0newall: what is the cheapest way to watch this? Yarr, that be the question...  |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 11:22:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: I wanted to watch the original again before starting this new one but I cant fond the original version anywhere. Come over to my house and I’ll let you watch it. You’ll have to bring your own VCR though. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/27/2024 11:31:20 PM EDT
[#21]
I loved the book. The Night of the Screams
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Posted: 2/27/2024 11:33:24 PM EDT
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This waaaay better than the 1980 version.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 11:36:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: I wanted to watch the original again before starting this new one but I cant fond the original version anywhere. |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 11:50:22 PM EDT
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I've watched the original mini series at least twice. It's fantastic. Hope this one is good, but I have doubts.
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Posted: 2/28/2024 12:26:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EzGoingKev: I am a huge fan of both the book and the 80's TV miniseries. I watched the first two episodes. I noticed Lady Moriko has a more forceful role in this version. She ordered Blackthorn to refer to her as Mariko-sama. IIRC in the book and miniseries she is Mariko-chan. She would not rate sama and I am not sure about san. I hope this is not a sign this is going to be another girl power remake of something. I read the book a long time ago, but I can tell just by watching the trailer that this version has a lot more girl power in it. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 12:39:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By curiomatic: I read the book a long time ago, but I can tell just by watching the trailer that this version has a lot more girl power in it. I haven't caught that. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 1:08:30 AM EDT
[#27]
I just saw bewbees. Better than the older version
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Posted: 2/28/2024 1:30:02 AM EDT
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Finished Ep 1 with the missus. We loved it.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2024 1:39:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: naginata5]
[#29]
Mariko shows up way earlier than in the book and you are introduced to her by her putting a group of samurai in their places while they attempt to oppress another helpless woman. Turned it off. I'll enjoy the book again.
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Posted: 2/28/2024 1:52:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By naginata5: Mariko shows up way earlier than in the book and you are introduced to her by her putting a group of samurai in their places while they attempt to oppress another helpless woman. Turned it off. I'll enjoy the book again. The scene with the wife and baby? Is that how you interpreted that? I really enjoyed the first episode |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2024 2:47:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fushaw: The scene with the wife and baby? Is that how you interpreted that? I really enjoyed the first episode Yes it is because it did not happen in the book. It's girl power bullshit. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 6:15:57 AM EDT
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I plan to watch it. Clavell is an one of my favorite authors, and Shogun is a great book.
I hope the series lives up to it. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 7:13:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By naginata5: Yes it is because it did not happen in the book. It's girl power bullshit.  
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Posted: 2/28/2024 7:31:42 AM EDT
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Went in blind.. .
Enjoyed it so far. Lot of familiar faces from.other similar movies I've watched. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/28/2024 7:37:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jambalaya: Oh, nice. I just started watching Justified. Will watch this next. Original Justified or the steaming pile of crap that came out last year? I'm recording Shogun and I'll binge it when it's over. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 7:44:56 AM EDT
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Loving it so far. Read all the books as a kid. So far very happy with it, better than the original miniseries too
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AS, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2024 8:36:11 AM EDT
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Yea so far so good
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Posted: 2/28/2024 8:50:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By naginata5: Yes it is because it did not happen in the book. It's girl power bullshit. 
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Posted: 2/28/2024 9:23:24 AM EDT
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I will be watching.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2024 9:23:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By curiomatic: I read the book a long time ago, but I can tell just by watching the trailer that this version has a lot more girl power in it. Mariko is a very strong character in the book, and on multiple occasions, she picks up a weapon. she is samurai after all. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 9:28:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billth777: Mariko is a very strong character in the book, and on multiple occasions, she picks up a weapon. she is samurai after all. It has been like 20 years since I read the book. Can you point out women defying samurai? Also the part when she goes from being Mariko-chan to Mariko-sama. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 9:38:35 AM EDT
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Wife & I are going to start watching it this weekend. I remember watching the original with my parents, but I was 8 yrs old, so I don't remember much other than Allan Quatermain being the Shogun. lol
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2024 9:46:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EzGoingKev: It has been like 20 years since I read the book. Can you point out women defying samurai? Also the part when she goes from being Mariko-chan to Mariko-sama. Mariko is samurai. Samurai is a society class. It’s all outlined in the book. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 9:48:56 AM EDT
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Since Direct TV is AFU I'm sure that the DVR won't function and I will miss out since I don't have HULU.
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Posted: 2/28/2024 9:51:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billth777: Mariko is samurai. Samurai is a society class. It’s all outlined in the book. She is still a woman and woman were second class to the men. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 9:56:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EzGoingKev: She is still a woman and woman were second class to the men. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EzGoingKev: Originally Posted By billth777: Mariko is samurai. Samurai is a society class. It’s all outlined in the book. She is still a woman and woman were second class to the men. The wife of a samurai was NOT second class to a common man. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 10:04:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulldog1967: The wife of a samurai was NOT second class to a common man. Someone brought up the scene where the samurai were they to take the baby. They were not common men. As I said, she told Blackthorn to address her as Mariko-sama. From my recollection of the book she was also Mariko-chan. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 10:36:06 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EzGoingKev: I am a huge fan of both the book and the 80's TV miniseries. I watched the first two episodes. I noticed Lady Moriko has a more forceful role in this version. She ordered Blackthorn to refer to her as Mariko-sama. IIRC in the book and miniseries she is Mariko-chan. She would not rate sama and I am not sure about san. I hope this is not a sign this is going to be another girl power remake of something. -Sama?! LOFL. Yeah, that doesn't happen. (Although the eldest Japanese attorney for our client was quite tickled by my inquiring whether -sama v -san would be appropriate.) Mariko was samurai, right? Would -san be appropriate? Especially when said by someone as zero-status as the Anjin was early on. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2024 10:57:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulldog1967: The wife of a samurai was NOT second class to a common man. You are/were an officer aren't you?  Anyone know how to watch this without getting Hulu? |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 11:03:26 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EzGoingKev: I am a huge fan of both the book and the 80's TV miniseries. I watched the first two episodes. I noticed Lady Moriko has a more forceful role in this version. She ordered Blackthorn to refer to her as Mariko-sama. IIRC in the book and miniseries she is Mariko-chan. She would not rate sama and I am not sure about san. I hope this is not a sign this is going to be another girl power remake of something. That is such a heavy-handed edit, since it isn't in the book, you know it is certainly blatant girl-power propaganda. |
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