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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:59:36 AM EDT
Israel ranks 18th in per capita GDP, the best measure of the relative wealth of a population. That's higher than such economic powerhouses as Germany, France, Great Britain, and Italy. For comparison, the U.S. is 7th. Israel has a border wall and universal healthcare as well. So why do we give them billions every year?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:09:25 AM EDT
[#1]
They're our most reliable ally in the region
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:10:06 AM EDT
[#2]
Shut up and pay your taxes peasant
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:16:48 AM EDT
[#3]
The US Congress is largely "Israeli occupied territory" as Pat Buchanan noted years ago.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:18:19 AM EDT
[#4]
Asking that question is anti-semetic.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:19:10 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy: They're our most reliable ally in the region |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:20:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: What, exactly do they give us? Loads of intelligence Land for an air force base An ally in a "hot" region A distraction for terrorists 
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:21:08 AM EDT
[#7]
This thread won't go well if someone actually tells you why.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:21:26 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy: They're our most reliable ally in the region  There sure don't seem to think the same of the goyim.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:21:33 AM EDT
[#9]
Israel is 1/10th of 1% of the land mass that is the Middle East. If we didn’t subsidize Israel, there would be no Israel.
Of course we can always spend our tax money on wokism horseshit and welfare. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:22:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kraquine]
[#10]
One of the developments of late is that the U.S. recently gave Israel $250M and Israel is going to buy more U.S. F-15's.
I tried a version of that process for a dozen holly bushes at Lowes this weekend but they weren't havin' it. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:22:25 AM EDT
[#11]
Why do we subsidize lgbtdjssjss+ studies in Pakistan?
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:24:48 AM EDT
[#12]
We do it mainly to annoy the Muslims and anti-dentites.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:27:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: Loads of intelligence Land for an air force base An ally in a "hot" region A distraction for terrorists 2. Air Force Base. Have we ever launched a strike from an Israeli base? We didn't get to use it in either Gulf War I or II, but we did get to defend Israel from the SCUDs. 3. An ally in a "hot" region. Isn't the region hot in large part because we defend Israel? 4. A distraction for terrorists. Question. Absent our support for Israel, would these terrorists be targeting us? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:34:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cancard: Israel is 1/10th of 1% of the land mass that is the Middle East. If we didn't subsidize Israel, there would be no Israel. Of course we can always spend our tax money on wokism horseshit and welfare. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:41:11 AM EDT
[#15]
Because they're our best ally in the region and most of the money going to them is coming right back through defense contractors.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:41:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: 1. Loads of intelligence. Possibly. But unverifiable. "Israel is really helpful, just trust us." CIA (probably). 2. Air Force Base. Have we ever launched a strike from an Israeli base? We didn't get to use it in either Gulf War I or II, but we did get to defend Israel from the SCUDs. 3. An ally in a "hot" region. Isn't the region hot in large part because we defend Israel? 4. A distraction for terrorists. Question. Absent our support for Israel, would these terrorists be targeting us? Add me here too. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:41:39 AM EDT
[#17]
Because it supports our military industrial complex. If we didn’t give them money and make them buy our shit with it they’d just build their own shit with their own money.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:41:58 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sjm1582002: The US Congress is largely "Israeli occupied territory" as Pat Buchanan noted years ago. Yes. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:44:02 AM EDT
[#19]
Because AIPAC gives lots of money for the cause.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:44:14 AM EDT
[#20]
Supporting Israel is very good for the campaign funds for certain politicians and provides significant income to family and friends of those politicians.
Shut up and pay your taxes. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:44:30 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cancard: Israel is 1/10th of 1% of the land mass that is the Middle East. If we didn’t subsidize Israel, there would be no Israel. Of course we can always spend our tax money on wokism horseshit and welfare. How about neither?! The US is BROKE. 30+ trillion in debt. Sweep off our own front porch before paying to have others' porches painted. Israel is a first world nation. Why tf are we financing their security. That goes double for countries that hate us. If I was in charge I would tell the Israelis that all cash aid stops. Want help in defense? Find us a patch of Godforsaken desert you aren't using and we'll build an airbase there. Past that, Uncle Sam's wallet is closed. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:44:51 AM EDT
[#22]
Because supporting our strongest ally in the region is in our best geopolitical and national security interests?
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:44:57 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Covertness: Because it supports our military industrial complex. If we didn't give them money and make them buy our shit with it they'd just build their own shit with their own money.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:45:46 AM EDT
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JPN
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:46:07 AM EDT
[#25]
AIPAC is thing.
It's not a great thing, but it's a thing. It is disintegrating, so that's interesting, but it is a thing. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:46:37 AM EDT
[#26]
Because it's antisemitic if you don't agree with sending them money. Or something.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:47:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: happycynic]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Because supporting our strongest ally in the region is in our best geopolitical and national security interests?  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:48:40 AM EDT
[#28]
What countries don't we subsidize?
 In 2023, the United States spent nearly $61 billion on foreign aid. Fully half of that budget has gone to just ten countries: Ukraine ($16.4 billion) Israel ($3.3 billion) Ethiopia ($1.95 billion) Jordan ($1.65 billion) Egypt ($1.43 billion) Afghanistan ($1.19 billion) Somalia ($1.13 billion) Yemen ($1.05 billion) Congo ($987 million) Syria ($896 million) The 2024 foreign aid budget was released in February, 2024. Many of these numbers can change—for example, in 2023, just under $775 million was budgeted for Syria. However, the actual disbursements increased by $121 million (in part due to the earthquake that hit Syria and Türkiye). That said, the proposed budget for 2024 is a little over $50 billion, roughly 17% less than 2023, with 20% of that budget requested for just ten countries: Israel ($3.3 billion) Jordan ($1,45 billion) Egypt ($1,43 billion) Ukraine ($774 million) Nigeria ($625 million) Mozambique ($564 million) Uganda ($562 million) Tanzania ($561 million) Kenya ($514 million) Zambia ($507 million) |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:50:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: happycynic]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: What countries don't we subsidize? In 2023, the United States spent nearly $61 billion on foreign aid. Fully half of that budget has gone to just ten countries: Ukraine ($16.4 billion) Israel ($3.3 billion) Ethiopia ($1.95 billion) Jordan ($1.65 billion) Egypt ($1.43 billion) Afghanistan ($1.19 billion) Somalia ($1.13 billion) Yemen ($1.05 billion) Congo ($987 million) Syria ($896 million) The 2024 foreign aid budget was released in February, 2024. Many of these numbers can change for example, in 2023, just under $775 million was budgeted for Syria. However, the actual disbursements increased by $121 million (in part due to the earthquake that hit Syria and T rkiye). That said, the proposed budget for 2024 is a little over $50 billion, roughly 17% less than 2023, with 20% of that budget requested for just ten countries: Israel ($3.3 billion) Jordan ($1,45 billion) Egypt ($1,43 billion) Ukraine ($774 million) Nigeria ($625 million) Mozambique ($564 million) Uganda ($562 million) Tanzania ($561 million) Kenya ($514 million) Zambia ($507 million) |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:56:04 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: The number should be zero. We run the most backwards empire in history. We pay everyone for the privilege of protecting everyone. Yet of Israel, they're the only one that's rich in terms of GDP per capita. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Originally Posted By Paul: What countries don't we subsidize? In 2023, the United States spent nearly $61 billion on foreign aid. Fully half of that budget has gone to just ten countries: Ukraine ($16.4 billion) Israel ($3.3 billion) Ethiopia ($1.95 billion) Jordan ($1.65 billion) Egypt ($1.43 billion) Afghanistan ($1.19 billion) Somalia ($1.13 billion) Yemen ($1.05 billion) Congo ($987 million) Syria ($896 million) The 2024 foreign aid budget was released in February, 2024. Many of these numbers can change for example, in 2023, just under $775 million was budgeted for Syria. However, the actual disbursements increased by $121 million (in part due to the earthquake that hit Syria and T rkiye). That said, the proposed budget for 2024 is a little over $50 billion, roughly 17% less than 2023, with 20% of that budget requested for just ten countries: Israel ($3.3 billion) Jordan ($1,45 billion) Egypt ($1,43 billion) Ukraine ($774 million) Nigeria ($625 million) Mozambique ($564 million) Uganda ($562 million) Tanzania ($561 million) Kenya ($514 million) Zambia ($507 million) The amount of foreign aid across the board should be $0. We are $34 trillion in debt; we have no business giving money away. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:08:45 AM EDT
[#31]
Muh Bible
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PRK
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:10:28 AM EDT
[#32]
“My fellow white people”
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:14:28 AM EDT
[#33]
same reason Texas accepts money from the Fed Gov, despite Texans always threatening to leave under some obscure law they cite.
You have to love young states and their moxy though. |
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SGP
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:16:00 AM EDT
[#34]
I don't think we should, but the people in charge decided that before I was born.
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MP, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:16:55 AM EDT
[#35]
Look up the number of Representatives and Senators that have dual citizenship with Israel. This will explain many things to you.
Did you pay your taxes by yesterday like a good little goyim? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:19:25 AM EDT
[#36]
Mossad has dirt on almost all of them thanks to Jeffrey Epstein. They own Congress.
We also LOL at Cynthia McKinney. She did say one important thing. On her first day of office AIPAC sent her a fax asking her to pledge her loyalty to Izzy-land. It also said that should she decline, AIPAC would work against her reelection. She thought WTF and refused. They were good on their threat and funded her opponent and got her unseated. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:46:27 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: What, exactly do they give us? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:47:13 AM EDT
[#38]
Because the Bible says so, so say the boomers!
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:49:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DeuceGoon]
[#39]
Our greatest allies, I didn't see a single one in GWOT.
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:50:30 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cancard: Israel is 1/10th of 1% of the land mass that is the Middle East. If we didn’t subsidize Israel, there would be no Israel. Of course we can always spend our tax money on wokism horseshit and welfare. It is all debt. So maybe we should demand that our corrupt politicians stop putting us into debt with interest to be paid forever for anyone. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:50:46 AM EDT
[#41]
Same reason we give the richest scumbags in this country, all the tax loopholes and breaks🤷🏻♂️
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:52:18 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustinU235: Because it's antisemitic if you don't agree with sending them money. Or something. Anti-semitic + Agent of Putin. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:53:07 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: What, exactly do they give us? Hot Israeli women 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:54:00 AM EDT
[#44]
Originally we gave aid to Egypt and IZ to keep the peace, now it is to benefit the MIC.
IZ does invent some good tech though. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:54:07 AM EDT
[#45]
They're our only reliable ally in the region.
To bad they can't say the same about us. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:54:37 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By loudnproud: Because they're our best ally in the region and most of the money going to them is coming right back through defense contractors. Every time I read this I laugh my ass off. It is all fucking debt to us. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:55:07 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rheinmetall792: Anti-semitic + Agent of Putin. "Literally Hitler" |
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:56:53 AM EDT
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It's basically a welfare state that trades money laundering for protection and provides a place for high net worth individuals to have a 2nd home and passport. Basically a religious Luxembourg but with more tech and research. It also solved the UN's sticky problem of where to put effectively stateless Jews nobody wanted after WW2.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:57:38 AM EDT
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They have like, 5 people that live there. Even if each person is rich, there is no way they could afford to develop all the fun terrorist killing stuff without us.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:59:14 AM EDT
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Why? Same as always.
To exert diplomatic control. And graft. |
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