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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:59:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: This Anyone from any socioeconomic class that buys their own groceries or has access to Zillow can see it  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:59:48 AM EDT
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Quote Historyyou're goddamn right it's a tarp, little bubs. 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:00:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: Thanks to a few decades of sacrifice and your tax dollars it's easy!  |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:01:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By timeless: Real Estate ownership is the cornerstone of a civil society. not no more. 2030 is gonna be hobo with a shotgun for all the zoomas priced out of the tent market. 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:01:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blackbeard28: To be fair, most of GD is pissed off at everything. and doesn't see a future either.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:04:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wildearp: Back in the day, many peeps would buy dirt and pour a basement, put roofing on the grade level floor and live in it until they could afford to build a house on the base. A good friend of mine did that. He ended up living in the basement and his adult kids lived up stairs. @DenverDan @The_Master_Shake @HRoark87 @Chaingun @Papposilenus |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:06:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Master_Shake]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: my dream has always been to buy a 4/3 house in a college town, live rent free in the unfinished walkout basement, and rent the upstairs to hot bicurious college gymnast girls/college soccer girls/college rower girls to cover the mortgage and all operating costs. @DenverDan @The_Master_Shake @HRoark87 @Chaingun @Papposilenus Lol yes "rent"
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:09:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: Lol yes "rent" "oh, a little short on cash this month? i'm sure we can work something out."
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:12:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: Lol yes "rent"  that's gonna get me stabbed in my sleep.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:15:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Positronic: Let me tell you a little secret: You can BUY plywood, sheetrock, 2x6 lumber, Tyvek, plywood, Romex, your choice of plumbing,windows, doors, nails, even furnaces and roofing materials, same place as those contractors get 'em. First thing though, and THIS is the " Pro Tip " Here goes: Acquire LAND- Dirt- A Surface on which to BUILD. Start your dirt buying EARLY, put everything you have into it, until you own enough DIRT to stack building materials on. THEN BUILD a house. Evenings, weekends, buy boards, assemble into house, plumb and wire as necessary. Get your wife to help, if you have one. Took us 5 months of weekends and evenings to build our house. That's great if you were able to do so, but it's not an obtainable goal for many people. A decent lot (not a 2000 sq ft lot in a shit hole part of town- those are 5k) is at least 30k around here. As mentioned, most need cash up front, or I'm assuming you'd need a majority of cash up front to finance the rest. Not to mention if you have the skill and capability to build it to begin with. As I said, awesome if you do, or did. But most 20-25 year olds starting out, ain't doing that for their first home. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:16:05 AM EDT
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A bunch of participation trophy cry babies in here who think they deserve it their way, try Burger King for that. The "I could have been a winner but the deck was stacked against me" is getting old. Man up!
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:18:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KillerDyller: That's great if you were able to do so, but it's not an obtainable goal for many people. A decent lot (not a 2000 sq ft lot in a shit hole part of town- those are 5k) is at least 30k around here. As mentioned, most need cash up front, or I'm assuming you'd need a majority of cash up front to finance the rest. Not to mention if you have the skill and capability to build it to begin with. As I said, awesome if you do, or did. But most 20-25 year olds starting out, ain't doing that for their first home. goddamn. a shitty lot in town in montucky is like $87k these days.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:19:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NewUsername: A bunch of participation trophy cry babies in here who think they deserve it their way, try Burger King for that. The "I could have been a winner but the deck was stacked against me" is getting old. Man up! *tips hardhat* |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:23:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: buck19delta]
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Boomers in general are not the villain in this story, the villian is the U.S. government, things it should be doing and isn’t ( open borders ), things it shouldn’t be doing, and is ( allowing a million H1b visa Indians into the USA ), is why the cost of everything is thru the roof. Extra fees, fines, restrictions, taxes, epa, regulations, etc piled onto businesses, government attacking fossil fuels, attacking the auto industry with endless requirements, upgrades, of various kinds, ridiculous demands for increasing mileage of the car fleets of manufacturers, allowing industry to leave the country and U.S. manufacturing build its products over seas, rewarding foreign countries with contracts, great deals while punishing the domestic versions, helping back worthless college degrees creating worthless degrees, huge debt and raising education bar for simple jobs that don’t need degrees, and 1000 other examples.
The huge cost increases on everything, flood of stupid taxes, fees, regulations, permits, the massive demands for housing ( illegals / black rock style businesses increasing demand / reducing inventory ), difficult job markets, ( illegals, h1b visas, loss of manufacturing jobs, outsourcing jobs, welfare paying employees to not work creating employee shortages / welfare paying MORE money that low paying jobs, raising minimum wage when those jobs are not for raising families, ) expensive insurance of all kinds, massive inflation due to massive out of control spending. That and much, much more can be laid at the feet of government. State governments destroying local economies, causing high costs of living, out of control violence, homeless, raising costs of living, and federal government doing the same and worse. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:23:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: 30k for a lot? goddamn. a shitty lot in town in montucky is like $87k these days. It wasn't a nice one 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:23:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NewUsername: A bunch of participation trophy cry babies in here who think they deserve it their way, try Burger King for that. The "I could have been a winner but the deck was stacked against me" is getting old. Man up! They shouldn't have to get up at 4 AM and work until 7 PM, 6 days a week and sometimes Sunday, like many of us had to do to get ahead. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:25:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: But.....but.....It's someone else's fault. They shouldn't have to get up at 4 AM and work until 7 PM, 6 days a week and sometimes Sunday, like many of us had to do to get ahead.  Working in the Coal Mine you're goddamn right.gif we commuted barefoot uphill both ways in 8.7" of snow 8.7 miles a day to work in the hand dug mines 7/20s with no piss breaks for $8.70/hr for 87 years. @eagarminuteman |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:26:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Yet they continue to vote Democrat.  young people don't vote...why u think every libshit propaganda apparatus has been aimed at getting the youth vote for last 70 years? and it fails almost everytime... you know who fucks you with their vote? DOminion, illegals, seniors and the fucking suburban karen.... |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:28:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomad07: young people don't vote...why u think every libshit propaganda apparatus has been aimed at getting the youth vote for last 70 years? and it fails almost everytime... you know who fucks you with their vote? DOminion, illegals, seniors and the fucking suburban karen.... |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:28:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wrc777: I am 47 and right there with you. Yup I would like to take a moment to thank the boomers for aborting 25% of Gen X Bankrupting the worlds greatest economic engine, not once but 3 fucking times just in my lifetime Offshoring EVERY fucking great industry and job AND STILL WHINING AND WANTING MORE! |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:29:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomad07: Yup I would like to take a moment to thank the boomers for aborting 25% of Gen X Bankrupting the worlds greatest economic engine, not once but 3 fucking times just in my lifetime Offshoring EVERY fucking great industry and job AND STILL WHINING AND WANTING MORE!  James McMurtry "We Can't Make It Here" |
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AS, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:35:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CoconutLaCroix]
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You have to be living in a thick bubble to not realize how fucked America is. Maybe in rural Nebraska without any access to information outside of your local community things might seem alright, but certainly not in any major metropolitan area.
I feel like a foreigner in my own country. Zero attachment to America now, none. And that was challenging because I used to worship this country, but now I have zero hope or care for it. Just grateful for the remaining comforts I have before those get flushed. Every time I see the flag, all I see is Lizzo's fatass and a $35 trillion dollar ball and chain. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:40:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomad07: young people don't vote...why u think every libshit propaganda apparatus has been aimed at getting the youth vote for last 70 years? and it fails almost everytime... you know who fucks you with their vote? DOminion, illegals, seniors and the fucking suburban karen.... |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:41:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NewUsername: A bunch of participation trophy cry babies in here who think they deserve it their way, try Burger King for that. The "I could have been a winner but the deck was stacked against me" is getting old. Man up! Ok boomer you're welcome for my retirement. Glad to sacrifice mine so you can have yours lmfao |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:43:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dano556x45mm]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NewUsername: A bunch of participation trophy cry babies in here who think they deserve it their way, try Burger King for that. The "I could have been a winner but the deck was stacked against me" is getting old. Man up! We deserve what we put in, maybe if the older gens would stop taking too much things might even out. BTW, what is the average age of the American politician? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:45:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: "rent" indeed, my friend. "oh, a little short on cash this month? i'm sure we can work something out." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: Originally Posted By The_Master_Shake: Lol yes "rent" "oh, a little short on cash this month? i'm sure we can work something out." My man  |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:46:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NewUsername: A bunch of participation trophy cry babies in here who think they deserve it their way, try Burger King for that. The "I could have been a winner but the deck was stacked against me" is getting old. Man up! Who gave out the participation trophies? Oh that’s right, millenials parents aka early gen X and Boomers. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:47:20 AM EDT
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They really don't have one, not many people under 50 do. At this point all of the social movements are nothing more than misplaced anger and frustration. Of course you know that's reached the breaking point when the Jews get scapegoated.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:59:57 AM EDT
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The trenches of WWI, the depression, Korea, Vietnam, those were bad, most Americans don't know bad times. All these people complain that they can't live their dream. Welcome to reality.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:00:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoconutLaCroix: You have to be living in a thick bubble to not realize how fucked America is. Maybe in rural Nebraska without any access to information outside of your local community things might seem alright, but certainly not in any major metropolitan area. I feel like a foreigner in my own country. Zero attachment to America now, none. And that was challenging because I used to worship this country, but now I have zero hope or care for it. Just grateful for the remaining comforts I have before those get flushed. Every time I see the flag, all I see is Lizzo's fatass and a $35 trillion dollar ball and chain. Sums up my feelings perfectly. I feel like a lot of people think the ship has been hijacked, completely unaware that the change was done through management and they're actually the interlopers. America isn't yours. It belongs to everyone who hates you. That flag represents an end of existence to anyone who gets sunburnt and voted for Trump. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:01:14 PM EDT
[#31]
Never been a better time to be a retired, financially secure Boomer.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:02:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigBurkeyBoy: This is me to a T. I feel I'm set enough to be ok, but my fears and worries are entirely for my family. My wife, my kids, and their kids yet unborn. I haven't had a worry for my own well-being in years at this point. I'm fine, I'm a man, and even if shit isn't fine, I can take it because see point number 2. I can live in a hole in the ground and eat fucking squirrels for all I give a fuck. But my family is a different story. Everyone refuses to believe there's any problems because they have theirs but all I can think about is what kind of country my kids will grow up in and how they're horribly fucked unless there's a radical reorganization of govt and society at this point. I dread that revolution is their only hope of having anything worth a fuck. I fear that they'll grow up spitting and cursing my name for not doing more, at a time when many would likely look back and say it would have been easier to do so. Same here , 34. Got all the shit , same with my younger 2 brothers. My goal now is to get more shit to help the kids out. I’m thinking of buying a rent house or houses in my town once I get another raise. I don’t see a way where my kids will be able to get decent houses. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:02:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NewUsername: The trenches of WWI, the depression, Korea, Vietnam, those were bad, most Americans don't know bad times. All these people complain that they can't live their dream. Welcome to reality. It's not a dream, its that they cannot have children. That's not a "quit yet bitchin" problem, or a "wah wah why can't I keep up with the instagram joneses!" that's a civilizational death spiral that will affect everyone. If they cannot have homes or a standard of living that supports the birthing of children. Within 100 years you won't have a country anymore. THATS the issue. And its why I care despite the fact that I got mine. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:13:19 PM EDT
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They're being purposely manipulated by foreign adversarial governments and actively fight to keep that happening.
They'll become perfect little socialist all according to plan.  |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:32:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Speedwinder: This You hear about the pissed off underachievers, but you don't hear so much about the ones making the right moves to achieve wealth and an exceptional life. Most older people didn't start wealthy and privileged with a nice house. They earned it slowly over many years. I think the younger generations will be fine, but it will take hard work and time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Speedwinder: Originally Posted By cavedog: Not all of them. Some are determined to make a life for themselves. Thread is doom porn, and the doomers will be flagellating up and down this mother. This You hear about the pissed off underachievers, but you don't hear so much about the ones making the right moves to achieve wealth and an exceptional life. Most older people didn't start wealthy and privileged with a nice house. They earned it slowly over many years. I think the younger generations will be fine, but it will take hard work and time. BINGO! I was having this doom and gloom discussion around the campfire with a bunch of my mid-50s friends. All of our children are in their late teens or early 20s doing something to further their education and work experience. I said all of our kids are going to do OK if they keep on their positive path. They will have the opportunity to be leaders in the world as our generation retires in the next 10-15 years. They will be in a perfect place to take over vs. the kids playing video games, smoking pot, and complaining how everyone else's privilege is preventing them from getting ahead. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:34:35 PM EDT
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Clue: The future is what you make it. You can bitch and whine, or you can figure it out; no one is going to hand it to you.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:42:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomad07: Yup I would like to take a moment to thank the boomers for aborting 25% of Gen X Bankrupting the worlds greatest economic engine, not once but 3 fucking times just in my lifetime Offshoring EVERY fucking great industry and job AND STILL WHINING AND WANTING MORE! You're very welcome. Thanks for your support! |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:48:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomad07: Yup I would like to take a moment to thank the boomers for aborting 25% of Gen X Bankrupting the worlds greatest economic engine, not once but 3 fucking times just in my lifetime Offshoring EVERY fucking great industry and job AND STILL WHINING AND WANTING MORE! Awww, didn't your momma hug you enough as a child? Still blaming others for your failures? lol Please. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:50:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack19: Awww, didn't your momma hug you enough as a child? Still blaming others for your failures? lol Please. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:03:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Denwad: I'm 34 and I don't see a future either , and I'm pretty set. I fear for my daughter, her siblings and their future kids. Same but I am 36. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:11:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dixie2009: I’m 57 and plan to retire at 62, I don’t care anymore. These last few years I’ve realized we’ve been sold a bill of goods in the US. Unless self-employed, or top of the chain, you are screwed and it’s getting worse. I have good employment and paid well. But see past it now. The one thing Europe does right is work/life balance. Many of our clients are overseas and they are always on holiday or a sabbatical. My kids are educated and work hard. But at this point I’m ready to tell them as long as they are comfortable and fund retirement and make some investments for the future, that they should focus more on living and enjoying life than slaving their lives away for another. They have their own homes, thank goodness. Others aren’t so lucky. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dixie2009: Originally Posted By runcible: That's because, for them, there isn't one. Young people today are proper fucked. I’m 57 and plan to retire at 62, I don’t care anymore. These last few years I’ve realized we’ve been sold a bill of goods in the US. Unless self-employed, or top of the chain, you are screwed and it’s getting worse. I have good employment and paid well. But see past it now. The one thing Europe does right is work/life balance. Many of our clients are overseas and they are always on holiday or a sabbatical. My kids are educated and work hard. But at this point I’m ready to tell them as long as they are comfortable and fund retirement and make some investments for the future, that they should focus more on living and enjoying life than slaving their lives away for another. They have their own homes, thank goodness. Others aren’t so lucky. This is a concept that a lot of people can't seem to grasp, working to live instead of just living to work. Spend 65 years destroying yourself to save enough money to retire, spend the money to fix the body you destroyed, then die in a few years |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:28:02 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mikencp226: So, so fortunate to have retired 2/29/24 6/20/24 for me ending a 37 yr career in state law enforcement. Two more alimony payments left and I have to raid my 401 for a hefty down payment on a cabin I'm having built in NC. Luckily, I have a monthly pension too. Otherwise ... ? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:31:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TXBBQGuy: This is a concept that a lot of people can't seem to grasp, working to live instead of just living to work. Spend 65 years destroying yourself to save enough money to retire, spend the money to fix the body you destroyed, then die in a few years We grasp it, we just don’t buy into it. I have my kids a great head start and a good life. They are the ones the zoomers are whining about. They are doing well in this age of “we just can’t make it” |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:37:49 PM EDT
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goddamn.
this thread is goin' places.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:39:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:40:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoconutLaCroix: You have to be living in a thick bubble to not realize how fucked America is. Maybe in rural Nebraska without any access to information outside of your local community things might seem alright, but certainly not in any major metropolitan area. I feel like a foreigner in my own country. Zero attachment to America now, none. And that was challenging because I used to worship this country, but now I have zero hope or care for it. Just grateful for the remaining comforts I have before those get flushed. Every time I see the flag, all I see is Lizzo's fatass and a $35 trillion dollar ball and chain. 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:44:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Currahee]
[#47]
Young people need to look forward and see what kind of jobs are going to be available in the future and invest in them.
They need to not spend money on big ass gamer consoles, tattoos, getting drunk, silly accessories for cars. They need to build a work history, even when they are in college. They need to do some junior college vs going in to debt for stupid ass 4 year degrees. They need to start saving early. They need to form emotional partnerships and realize relationships are give and take, the most important thing to give is honesty/loyalty. They need to make babies. Their parents need to stop spending their money chasing "the Jones," no 5th wheels, no 100 inch TVs, no mid life crisis sports cars or harlies. They need to invest in land, gold, guns, and other things that can be given to their children when they pass. They need to support and help their children. EVERYONE needs to invest in basic defense - money in guns all the way to NODs and thermal, but, more importantly time, their use and FITNESS. The world wants to wipe out the middle classes, plan accordingly. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:44:13 PM EDT
[#48]
Fertility rate is down throughout the USA across all ethnicities.
Young Americans aren't getting married and they're not having children. Young men are fantasizing about the end of the world and LARPing for an American civil war, because I think that sounds more appealing to them than the current grind of work hard and own nothing. We're heading into a very bleak future. It's a matter of time before Americans are living in bunkbed like community rooms, eating bars made from bug paste, and as Klaus of the WEF said owning nothing. I don't blame young people one bit for being pissed off. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:47:16 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Fertility rate is down throughout the USA across all ethnicities. Young Americans aren't getting married and they're not having children. Young men are fantasizing about the end of the world and LARPing for an American civil war, because I think that sounds more appealing to them than the current grind of work hard and own nothing. We're heading into a very bleak future. It's a matter of time before Americans are living in bunkbed like community rooms, eating bars made from bug paste, and as Klaus of the WEF said owning nothing. I don't blame young people one bit for being pissed off. *evil laughter* |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:07:38 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: But.....but.....It's someone else's fault. They shouldn't have to get up at 4 AM and work until 7 PM, 6 days a week and sometimes Sunday, like many of us had to do to get ahead. |
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