Originally Posted By Wolfpack:
I'm mid 50's, did Matsubayshi-Ryu Okinawan Karate for about 15 years in my 20's and 30's.
I've always wanted to do Wing Chun, even made myself a dummy 20 years ago but never got serious about it. We now live in a very rural area and the closest school is about 200 miles away, I already drive 500 miles a week for work so I'm not gonna drive to go to a school. With YouTube and online resources is it possible to get proficient in a martial art for those of us that don't live in a city?
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As someone who's actually trained in Wing Chun, it's one of the arts that is VERY difficult to learn without both proper instruction, and other people to train with.
Had a buddy who asked about it (as well as Muk Jeong/wooden dummy training/practice).
The issue with WC in particular, is that beginners can't get the 'feel/sensitivity' without an experienced instructor. It's something that no amount of books or videos can convey. Without learning and developing that sensitivity, no amount of wooden dummy training will help, and in fact, can be counterproductive, as you drill the wrong things into muscle memory.
Go to a Beginners Wing Chun class and try Chi Sao with the instructor, and you'll quickly understand what I'm trying to describe. Just about EVERY single beginner (especially males) will tend to use too much force, at the wrong time/in the wrong way, which, as you'll learn, with a good instructor (or even experienced/skilled student), will leave you wide open.
*** It's actually kind of funny, watching newbies do Chi Sao drills, which literally translates to "Sticky Hands", when the partner stops a movement, and the newbie who hasn't learned to focus on feel/sensitivity continues moving, and their hands lose contact, and the instructor/partner shows them how they just left themselves wide open because they were focusing on executing the movement vs feeling what the partner/opponent is doing.
It's developing that touch sensitivity to what the opponent/training partner is doing, that's the key with WC, and as mentioned, you can't learn it without feeling it. Once you've learned enough to understand and know wgat to train, THEN you can use the wooden dummy drills, but without learning that first, you'll likely be using the wooden dummy incorrectly (as mentioned, using too much force, or applying it incorrectly) AND drilling those mistakes into muscle memory, which will make corrections/relearning things even more difficult.
*** Yeah, yeah. The Joe Rogan fanbois are probably going to jump in with the, "Joe Rogan said WC is BS!".
I trained in and competed in Muay Thai, Sanshou and bareknuckle Goju-Ryu tournaments. I can tell you that the sensitivity and redirects learned in WC, absolutely CAN be used in fights/competition.
When you get to the higher levels of WC training, you also use elbows. The way WC trains Chi Sao and uses elbows, came in handy when I fought MT in Thailand with elbow strikes allowed (not all MT matches allow elbow strikes). MT does not really have anything quite like WC Chi Sao, trapping and opening up another person's defenses for elbows. Some basics, but not as advanced. WC allowed me to KO my opponent with an elbow.
*** similarly, you can watch all the videos you want about BJJ, but without actually training those techniques with experienced partners, AND rolling with different opponents, you can't learn to feel the balance, attacks and counters on your own, without prior experience.