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Posted: 6/19/2006 4:57:01 AM EDT

[#1]

The grip is the only reason why I never bought a Glock. Way uncomfortable for me.

Posted: 6/19/2006 7:05:47 AM EDT

[#2]

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-.22 conversion kit so I can train more on my current budget.
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www.advantagearms.com/conversion_kit.html

I knew such a beast must exist considering all the Glocks in use, just hadn't gotten around to checking because I knew I'd immediately be compelled to order one. Damn you RotorDemon, that's $250 gone now!

A quick Google shows Advantage Arms kit pretty much owning the top hits, is it the only kit or just widely considered the best? I still wouldn't mind seeing a kit offered from Glock, they could probably undercut that price a bit if nothing else.

Posted: 6/20/2006 4:12:13 AM EDT

[#3]

Not to troll but seriously, after reading most of the suggestions here, it sounds like most are wanting Glock to make an XD.

+1 Grip angle is correct, no funky finger grooves, has a grip safety, still keeps the light rail, a double stack .45 is barely thicker the the G17. All the reason I own a G17 and an XD in .45 ACP.

Posted: 6/20/2006 4:14:32 AM EDT

[#4]

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Single stack .40 & 9mm models like the G36

+100!!! Especially in the 26/27 model. Compete with Kahr for the tiny BUG market. Love my Kahr, but have had that dreaded peening issue with my pm9.

Posted: 6/20/2006 4:25:54 AM EDT

[#5]

Wow - how did I miss this thread? it's one of my favorite subjects!

1. Replaceable grip inserts - This one is huge IMO and is where Glock has let their competition get a leg up on them. I think one insert that mimic the current frame. One insert that keeps the same angle but looses the hump at the bottom and a 3 insert the reduces the angle to some more 1911 like.
2. Either drop the finger grooves or make the front strap a replaceable panel too. Personally I think they should just loose them because anybody who wants them can always get a Hogue slip on.

These 2 wouldn't necessarily be "Gen4" additions but I would like to see them...

3. Single stack models in either 26-27 and\or 19-23 frame size. I'm thinking they could make a single stack 9mm that would hold 10 round and have the overall dimension of the 19. That would be sweet.
4. Carbine - nuff said

Posted: 6/20/2006 4:35:39 AM EDT

[#6]

a CARBINE

seriously? I think from gen 1 to gen 3 they have reached "Glock Perfection".
light rail? check
finger grooves? check
were there any major internal mods between gens 1-3?

maybe ditch the plastic guide rod, have an optional decocker, an integral locking system, rework the slide removal thing and put a better slide release instead of having to buy aftermarket ones..

Posted: 6/20/2006 4:55:43 AM EDT

[#7]

I think that they should start by using a steel or alloy frame.
It should have the grip angle and basic shape of the 1911.
Go to a single-action-only trigger, with a thumb-safety, and a grip safety, for cocked-and-locked carry condition.
Use a single-stack 8rd mag.
Start using a JM Browning barrel link system.
Eliminate the polygon barrel, and use a normal rifled barrel.
Make it in 45ACP.

No, seriously, I think that a Glock in 22LR would be an excellent idea.
And the grip angle needs to be normal. A grip angle isn't the right place to be different.
Eliminate the polygon barrel, and support the chambers better to eliminate the kabooms.

And they need to have some kind of "flagship model", like HK does.
They've done fine with the cheap pistols, let's see what they can do at the $1000 price range.

Edited to add:
And add some styling!
Just because it is plastic doesn't mean it has to look bad.

Posted: 6/20/2006 6:40:48 PM EDT

[#8]

no finger grooves, a real safety, a more ergonomic grip. or how's about this, copy the S&W M&P exactly and give it a real safety & I'm sold.

Posted: 6/21/2006 2:27:07 AM EDT

[#9]

I would love a full size 10mm with a single stack mag, ported barrel & adjustable sights.

Posted: 6/21/2006 5:54:21 AM EDT

[#10]

Steel sights and 3.5# trigger as standard.

Posted: 6/21/2006 8:43:11 AM EDT

[#11]

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Reduce the squareness at rear grip tang.

Stiffer factory recoil springs.

Explain this one for me. I'm no Glock Mechanic, but I don't know of any problems with these, except for the competition shooters that use lighter weight springs.

Im fine with whats in the 9mm models, but Ive always felt the .45 and ESPECIALLY the .40s could use a pound or two more weight to increase the dwell time before unlocking.

Ahhhh. OK, Thanks.

Posted: 6/21/2006 9:18:24 AM EDT

[#12]

What is with the hatred of finger grooves?

I must be one of only 7 people in the entire world that they fit perfectly

Posted: 6/21/2006 9:41:22 AM EDT

[#13]

A glock Carbine in 5.56

Posted: 6/21/2006 9:44:47 AM EDT

[#14]

factory rimfire glock with 30+ round capacity.

Posted: 6/21/2006 9:49:22 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Create a long barrel GLOCK 21 .45ACP just like the 34/35

+1

Posted: 6/21/2006 9:49:41 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
What is with the hatred of finger grooves?

I must be one of only 7 people in the entire world that they fit perfectly

They fit my hand just right too.

Posted: 6/21/2006 9:52:06 AM EDT

[#17]

Well, first off, I love my g17. The only complaint I have is the plastic sights. Who would put plastic sights on a pistol. My only other complaint is the slide release could us a larger surface area, like the full size hk usp has. Other than that, it's my favorite pistol.

Posted: 6/21/2006 4:03:34 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Well, first off, I love my g17. The only complaint I have is the plastic sights. Who would put plastic sights on a pistol. My only other complaint is the slide release could us a larger surface area, like the full size hk usp has. Other than that, it's my favorite pistol.

It's not a slide release. It's a stop lever. You shouldn't be using it to send your slide forward.

Posted: 6/21/2006 4:35:52 PM EDT

[#19]

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What is with the hatred of finger grooves?

I must be one of only 7 people in the entire world that they fit perfectly

They fit my hand just right too.

How many different Gen3 Glocks, specifically different frame sizes, do you own? I ask because while I do not like finger grooves on any firearm, I find the grooves on my G17 do fit OK and don't bother me much. The grooves on my G19 did not fit at all and had to go. Because of that, its kind of hard for me to imagine someone finding both the 19/23 and the 17/22 finger grooves fitting perfectly considering that are not located in the same location.

I notice a lot of people mentioning things like the sights, 3.5# connectors, ext. controls, etc.. Glock doesn't need a "Gen4" to do those things but either way, those items don't bother me one bit because they are all easy and fairly cheap item to "fix" yourself if yu feel the need. While I agree steel sights would make more sense then plastic ones, I would rather pick my own sights so as far as I'm concerned, sell them with the cheap ones and keep the price down and I'll take care of that part myself.

Modifying the grip on a current Glock to fit is not easy, cheap or attractive so that's why I consider replaceable backstraps the most beneficial thing Glock could do to improve their weapon. Look at how many people claim they would like to use the Glock but they don't fit them or point right for them. If there was a way for the average person to modify the grip to work for them, I think Glock would sell a lot more pistols.

Posted: 6/22/2006 12:23:24 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
What are some of the things you would like to see on generation four GLOCKS?

This is what I would like to see:

-Create a long barrel GLOCK 21 .45ACP just like the 34/35
-Add more chamber support
-Offer an optional external safety (I know I'll get flamed for this)
-Offer automatic capabilities for all GLOCK models (just like the GLOCK 18 9mm)
-Offer interchangeable grips
-Offer GLOCK models without finger grooves
-Offer silver colored GLOCK models (I like silver )
-Offer a .22LR GLOCK

What would you do to fourth generation GLOCKs?

CALIFORNIA DREAMIN??

Posted: 6/22/2006 12:57:49 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
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What are some of the things you would like to see on generation four GLOCKS?

This is what I would like to see:

-Create a long barrel GLOCK 21 .45ACP just like the 34/35
-Add more chamber support
-Offer an optional external safety (I know I'll get flamed for this)
-Offer automatic capabilities for all GLOCK models (just like the GLOCK 18 9mm)
-Offer interchangeable grips
-Offer GLOCK models without finger grooves
-Offer silver colored GLOCK models (I like silver )
-Offer a .22LR GLOCK

What would you do to fourth generation GLOCKs?

CALIFORNIA DREAMIN??

Yes, I cream in my pants whenever I think about a full-auto GLOCK 21 .45ACP. Or a full-auto 10mm.

Posted: 6/22/2006 1:17:33 PM EDT

[#22]

A 9mm single stack about the same size as Colt's pocket9 or Kahr's MK9.

Posted: 6/23/2006 10:09:23 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
I think that they should start by using a steel or alloy frame.
It should have the grip angle and basic shape of the 1911.
Go to a single-action-only trigger, with a thumb-safety, and a grip safety, for cocked-and-locked carry condition.
Use a single-stack 8rd mag.
Start using a JM Browning barrel link system.
Eliminate the polygon barrel, and use a normal rifled barrel.
Make it in 45ACP.

No, seriously, I think that a Glock in 22LR would be an excellent idea.
And the grip angle needs to be normal. A grip angle isn't the right place to be different.
Eliminate the polygon barrel, and support the chambers better to eliminate the kabooms.

And they need to have some kind of "flagship model", like HK does.
They've done fine with the cheap pistols, let's see what they can do at the $1000 price range.

Edited to add:
And add some styling!
Just because it is plastic doesn't mean it has to look bad.

Still livin' in the early 1900's huh Tom?

Just kidding bro, I totally agree with the latter part of your post.

Posted: 6/23/2006 3:36:45 PM EDT

[#24]

1. Grip inserts like my Sig P2022 does so that there isn't this big ghetto ass on the bottom of the grip.

2. Scale the G36 up to G19 size(barrel length && frame height) and keep the current 28.5mm width. Flat back strap a'la the 1911 or put the grip inserts in it, put a steel mag release on it and let it take 1911 mags.

wganz
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Posted: 6/23/2006 4:03:31 PM EDT

[#25]

A single stack full size 10mm

A version in 7.62x25 Tokarev

Posted: 6/24/2006 7:15:53 PM EDT

[#26]

I'd like to see a 5.32 inch and 6 inch longslide 10mm
i'd like to see interchangable backstraps, side panels, and front panels.
i'd like to see lighter trigger pulls
adjustable night sights.

Posted: 6/24/2006 11:20:09 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
I'd like to see a 5.32 inch and 6 inch longslide 10mm
i'd like to see interchangable backstraps, side panels, and front panels.
i'd like to see lighter trigger pulls
adjustable night sights.

Side panels too? You can't have all four sides of a grip removable- there'd be nothing for the other parts to attach to!

You want something lighter than 3lbs.??

Posted: 6/24/2006 11:47:39 PM EDT

[#28]

Option for grips with or without finger grooves.
A more supported chamber in the .40 cal.
An improved trigger.
Thinner profile on the Glock 21.

Posted: 6/25/2006 6:41:21 AM EDT

[#29]

I like the finger grooves, but I can see where others have gripes.

As others have said, I'd recommend offering a 34/35 style in 45 and 10mm. It would sell like hotcakes. It would also stop me from having to buy a 34/35 now.

Add some steel sights standard and the 3.5 connector like triburst said as well.

Posted: 6/25/2006 11:53:17 AM EDT

[#30]

Magpul needs to start making Glock Frames!!!

Posted: 6/25/2006 11:59:10 AM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
Magpul needs to start making Glock Frames!!!

...And market them as "paperweights" sans serial numbers!

Posted: 6/25/2006 3:15:35 PM EDT

[#32]

Full power 10mm on the G36 platform!!

Posted: 6/25/2006 4:05:44 PM EDT

[#33]

How about some 1911 style Novak sights.

Posted: 6/25/2006 4:32:22 PM EDT

[#34]

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Magpul needs to start making Glock Frames!!!

...And market them as "paperweights" sans serial numbers!

Oh, you're right! There's no way Magpul could make an 80% frame and ship it to Glock for the finishing touches and a serial plate...

Stupid me...

Posted: 6/27/2006 5:43:05 PM EDT

[#35]

If they'd change these, I might buy a Glock:

1. Finger grooves. One size doesnt fit all. Get rid of them

2. Backstrap. Get rid of all that empty space in the rear.

3. Forward cocking serrations. I like to use the on handguns.

4. Aluminum trigger, or atleast a trigger made of metal.

5. Long slide .45ACP and 10mm(similar to the 34/35)

6. A public admission of st))pidity ver the whole .45GAP thing

Posted: 6/27/2006 7:16:11 PM EDT

[#36]

Smooth trigger face on all models.
3.5 lb connector on all models standard heyStandard 3 dot steel sights vs plastic.
Smoother backstrap.
Some type of built in buffer for recoil that won't wear out or break.
Move slide release back about 3/8 inch or have extended releases standard.
I like the finger grooves & light rail.
Leave the 3 internal safeties alone.

Oh yeah, and different colored frames & slides.
I dig my new G23 with green frame

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