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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2024 4:29:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jrod88]
This just came across my feed.
 Lipsey's Exclusive: Smith & Wesson Ultimate Carry J-Frame Pretty neat to have an option sub $1k and not beat up (332) to add a 6 shot j-frame to the collection. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 4:44:40 PM EDT
[#1]
The 32 calibers really are brilliant.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 4:49:06 PM EDT
[#2]
Should’ve been 327 Fed
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Posted: 1/21/2024 4:55:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Grendelsbane]
[#3]
.327 Federal Magnum would have been a nice option.
Edit - maybe reaming the 632 cylinder would be an option? |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 4:57:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VeritatisUnus: Should’ve been 327 Fed Wonder why it wasn’t. Seems that would’ve been a more natural choice. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 5:01:04 PM EDT
[#5]
I love my LCR in 327. I regularly shoot the hot 327s. While it's not super fun it's totally shootable in that platform. Mine is shockingly accurate.
I'm surprised they wouldn't do 327 here. It's not like H&R is any more common. They are both super niche and the 327 would give the option for H&Rs as well. Neat, but it's not for me. I prefer my LCR. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 5:12:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARnTN: Wonder why it wasn’t. Seems that would’ve been a more natural choice. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARnTN: Originally Posted By VeritatisUnus: Should’ve been 327 Fed Wonder why it wasn’t. Seems that would’ve been a more natural choice. Have they ever done that in an aluminum frame? Don't know if it's a length issue as well. Probably need a Scandium or Steel frame. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 5:15:06 PM EDT
[#7]
I always thought the 32 was a great fit in the J frame and some modern bullets seem to be a great fit. RSR used to order runs of 431 and 432 that sold out pretty quickly. Glad to see companies putting thought into the wheelguns. Looks like some tasteful upgrades.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 5:19:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Have they ever done that in an aluminum frame? Don't know if it's a length issue as well. Probably need a Scandium or Steel frame. You know, that could be it. The LCR in 327 uses a heavier frame (same as 357). I think it's steel, vice lighter weight aluminum for the 38 version. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 6:14:21 PM EDT
[#9]
I wonder how much it'll cost me to get both the 442 and 642.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2024 6:32:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dozerd11]
[#10]
Lipsey's claims MSRP $759 in the comments under the video. Guess if the street prices calm down after initial release won't be too bad compared to what the discontinued S&W 32 H&R have been going for. Plus some of the existing J frames in other calibers are up there also.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 8:53:13 PM EDT
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I'm guessing .327 Mag requires a scandium frame. And a price tag of over $1K like the .357 mag version. I'm fine with .32 H&R mag. which I believe runs around the same pressure as .38 Spl+P. But with less recoil.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2024 9:12:47 PM EDT
[#12]
Was thinking of picking up a Carry Comp once my bonus hits, but these may be a single run order, so Carry Comp will have to wait. Hopefully I can get an order in soon once they show up. Still can’t find them on Lipseys site.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 9:37:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrod88: Was thinking of picking up a Carry Comp once my bonus hits, but these may be a single run order, so Carry Comp will have to wait. Hopefully I can get an order in soon once they show up. Still can’t find them on Lipseys site. First 4 S&W's at the link. https://www.lipseys.com/itemfinder?sort=default&q=Ultimate+carry |
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2024 2:10:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ckbk]
[#14]
it's not clear from the info, are the .32's five or six shot?
nevermind. 6 shot! very good. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:48:09 PM EDT
[#15]
Max pressure for the .327 is over double the .32 H&R. Don't ream any .32 H&R for .327 unless it's super overbuilt. And an aluminum J frame is NOT overbuilt.
I'll be getting a 632UC sometime this year for sure, if not just for me, my young daughters when they come of age. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 10:54:08 PM EDT
[#16]
I WILL be buying one of these!
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Posted: 1/23/2024 11:14:31 PM EDT
[#17]
noice
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IA, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2024 10:23:36 PM EDT
[#18]
Pretty excited for this, hopefully its not a limited run and they sell theses for a while. My fear is that they will sell out and i"ll never find close to msrp
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2024 12:09:38 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NOTaBot: Pretty excited for this, hopefully its not a limited run and they sell theses for a while. My fear is that they will sell out and i"ll never find close to msrp Mine too, but read a transcript somewhere where they say it’s not a one run item. |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 11:57:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NOTaBot: Pretty excited for this, hopefully its not a limited run and they sell theses for a while. My fear is that they will sell out and i"ll never find close to msrp Yeah, I want all four, especially the 442 and 642. I've got a number of other gun priorities for now, though, so buying all four may take a couple years. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/25/2024 2:20:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VeritatisUnus: Should’ve been 327 Fed I disagree the little bastard would be a handful on full power .327 loads. |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 4:14:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SteelonSteel: I disagree the little bastard would be a handful on full power .327 loads. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SteelonSteel: Originally Posted By VeritatisUnus: Should’ve been 327 Fed I disagree the little bastard would be a handful on full power .327 loads. You do realize there are more than a few of us who shoot .357 out of the even lighter 340PD? .327 would be nicer than that. I hope these .32 H&R offerings do well, and maybe we will eventually get a 340 or 640 based offering in .327 down the line. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2024 8:34:41 PM EDT
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The H&R makes sense for a standard aluminum frame, but I wish S&W would do a steel framed .327 Magnum without charging the premium that S&W appears to be charging a premium for steel framed J-frames nowadays.
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USA
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Posted: 1/25/2024 9:08:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: You do realize there are more than a few of us who shoot .357 out of the even lighter 340PD? .327 would be nicer than that. I hope these .32 H&R offerings do well, and maybe we will eventually get a 340 or 640 based offering in .327 down the line. Oh sure, there are guys that are able to handle it. Me, I prefer 4” revolvers and a little weight in them to boot. My only real handful a is a Kahr Mk40 sub compact where my pinky dangles in the air. My magnums are not pocket guns. Model 19 4” is the lightweight.  I would love love love a k frame 4”.32H&R with adjustable sights. I’d take a k frame 4” 327 if I had that choice and no .32 H&R option. |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 9:50:46 PM EDT
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Built this a long time ago. One of my favorites.
Can't wait to get a new one.  
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Posted: 1/25/2024 10:25:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Just getting the high horn VZ grips would be a game changer. The square top edge of the frame on a Centennial is killer
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Posted: 1/25/2024 11:18:22 PM EDT
[#27]
Could they make it in .30 SC?
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Posted: 1/25/2024 11:47:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: nhsport]
[#28]
I am not sure what it looks like or if they are only on the Lipsey run but I find it interesting that they are putting iron sights on the rear of the frame where there used to be a slight groove.
Could be a negative for pocket carry but if set up correctly lots easier to see/use |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 11:54:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SiVisPacem]
[#29]
You can see a dealer price of $599.90 at 2:27 of the TFBTV video below.
 New Smith & Wesson "Ultimate Carry" Airweight Revolvers |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2024 1:43:48 AM EDT
[#30]
I have one ordered with my ffl.
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Posted: 1/26/2024 1:46:34 AM EDT
[#31]
32 H&R? The 32 H&R "Magnum" was originally designed to compete with std pressure 38 Spl revolvers, but using cheap 32 revolvers made by Harrington & Richardson. Check out Lucky Gunner Labs, expansion with factory 32 H&R is iffy at best, it may expand to almost 40 caliber when fired downhill with a tailwind. Hopefully somebody will announce better loads than LG had for their tests.
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Posted: 1/26/2024 7:57:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MRW]
[#32]
no, the better defensive load for a 32 is a hot wadcutter, like the Lost River load in the Lipsey's promo
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OH, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2024 8:34:10 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pokey074: I WILL be buying one of these! As will I. |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 10:37:26 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anachronism: 32 H&R? The 32 H&R "Magnum" was originally designed to compete with std pressure 38 Spl revolvers, but using cheap 32 revolvers made by Harrington & Richardson. Check out Lucky Gunner Labs, expansion with factory 32 H&R is iffy at best, it may expand to almost 40 caliber when fired downhill with a tailwind. Hopefully somebody will announce better loads than LG had for their tests. Buffalo Bore has a 100 gr. JHP traveling at 1050 fps out of a 2' Taurus they call their "Heavy .32 H&R Mag. +P". And they claim, "This ammunition is full powered 32 H&R mag. and is safe to use in all firearms chambered for 32 H&R mag. and 327 Federal Mag., EXCEPT the original H&R revolvers." But probably the real winner is the WC's mentioned above. They seem to give FBI minimum penetration even at .32 S&W Long velocities. |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 2:56:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dump1567: Buffalo Bore has a 100 gr. JHP traveling at 1050 fps out of a 2' Taurus they call their "Heavy .32 H&R Mag. +P". And they claim, "This ammunition is full powered 32 H&R mag. and is safe to use in all firearms chambered for 32 H&R mag. and 327 Federal Mag., EXCEPT the original H&R revolvers." But probably the real winner is the WC's mentioned above. They seem to give FBI minimum penetration even at .32 S&W Long velocities. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dump1567: Originally Posted By anachronism: 32 H&R? The 32 H&R "Magnum" was originally designed to compete with std pressure 38 Spl revolvers, but using cheap 32 revolvers made by Harrington & Richardson. Check out Lucky Gunner Labs, expansion with factory 32 H&R is iffy at best, it may expand to almost 40 caliber when fired downhill with a tailwind. Hopefully somebody will announce better loads than LG had for their tests. Buffalo Bore has a 100 gr. JHP traveling at 1050 fps out of a 2' Taurus they call their "Heavy .32 H&R Mag. +P". And they claim, "This ammunition is full powered 32 H&R mag. and is safe to use in all firearms chambered for 32 H&R mag. and 327 Federal Mag., EXCEPT the original H&R revolvers." But probably the real winner is the WC's mentioned above. They seem to give FBI minimum penetration even at .32 S&W Long velocities. I don't know the speeds but we used to sell a ton of Blackhills ammo. They did an XTP defense load and a LRN plinking load. The cost was almost the same so we sold a lot more of the xtp but the LRN was slow and made for a great training load. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2024 3:18:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigfugly]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: You do realize there are more than a few of us who shoot .357 out of the even lighter 340PD? .327 would be nicer than that. I hope these .32 H&R offerings do well, and maybe we will eventually get a 340 or 640 based offering in .327 down the line. I know one of the guys who was in on this and asked him that question. Flame cutting and forcing cone problems that have been seen in previous lightweight S&W revolvers were the reason they didnt do this in a .327. That being said, if this sells well, dont be surprised if they dont do something similiar to the 340pd. Having a buddy who is at shot trying to find out for me if those high horn VZ's will become something we can buy. If not, I'm gonna give the Hamre Forge grips a try on my new 340pd |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 5:14:50 PM EDT
[#37]
So Lipsey is bringing out a 432 and a 632 J-frame in 32 H&R Magnum; but since when is the 632 an aluminum frame? My 632 is an all stainless steel gun, so are the 631's that I own.
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Posted: 1/26/2024 6:34:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SiVisPacem]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By engineer61: So Lipsey is bringing out a 432 and a 632 J-frame in 32 H&R Magnum; but since when is the 632 an aluminum frame? My 632 is an all stainless steel gun, so are the 631's that I own. Since 1991, when the original 632 .32 Magnum J-frame Centennial Airweights were manufactured. The 632-1 and 632-2 are stainless versions specifically built for the .327 Federal. According to the Standard Catalog of S&W, 4th Edition, the .32 H&R Magnum 632 (no dash) were only built 1991-92 and there were only 1.346 made. There were also 380 blue versions built 93-94 marked 332. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2024 6:50:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigfugly: I know one of the guys who was in on this and asked him that question. Flame cutting and forcing cone problems that have been seen in previous lightweight S&W revolvers were the reason they didnt do this in a .327. That being said, if this sells well, dont be surprised if they dont do something similiar to the 340pd. Having a buddy who is at shot trying to find out for me if those high horn VZ's will become something we can buy. If not, I'm gonna give the Hamre Forge grips a try on my new 340pd Those grips will sell well. With the resurgence of the wheel gun, VZ really should make them available. The flame cutting I find interesting. Doesn’t the 340pd have a little steel thingy just above the forcing cone to remedy this? Seems like an easy addition. |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 7:00:53 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SiVisPacem: Since 1991, when the original 632 .32 Magnum J-frame Centennial Airweights were manufactured. The 632-1 and 632-2 are stainless versions specifically built for the .327 Federal. According to the Standard Catalog of S&W, 4th Edition, the .32 H&R Magnum 632 (no dash) were only built 1991-92 and there were only 1.346 made. There were also 380 blue versions built 93-94 marked 332. I’m curious what the cost difference of production is between the regular aluminum alloy frames, aluminum scandium alloy frames, blued steel frames, and stainless steel frames. |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 7:15:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WilsonCQB1911: You know, that could be it. The LCR in 327 uses a heavier frame (same as 357). I think it's steel, vice lighter weight aluminum for the 38 version. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WilsonCQB1911: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Have they ever done that in an aluminum frame? Don't know if it's a length issue as well. Probably need a Scandium or Steel frame. You know, that could be it. The LCR in 327 uses a heavier frame (same as 357). I think it's steel, vice lighter weight aluminum for the 38 version. .327 competes with .357, .32 H&R competes with .38spl. |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 7:17:28 PM EDT
[#42]
I just want them to make more 3" j frames. I want a 3" 360.
3 inch is best inch |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 8:06:47 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: I’m curious what the cost difference of production is between the regular aluminum alloy frames, aluminum scandium alloy frames, blued steel frames, and stainless steel frames. I’d like to see that too. I’d guess the raw cost of material is probably not that different but I have no idea. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2024 8:18:00 PM EDT
[#44]
I just saw GunsAndGear post this on twitter. Do want.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2024 7:46:05 PM EDT
[#45]
I had a 6” model 16 back in the day, foolishly traded it off.
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Posted: 1/29/2024 9:03:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dump1567: Buffalo Bore has a 100 gr. JHP traveling at 1050 fps out of a 2' Taurus they call their "Heavy .32 H&R Mag. +P". And they claim, "This ammunition is full powered 32 H&R mag. and is safe to use in all firearms chambered for 32 H&R mag. and 327 Federal Mag., EXCEPT the original H&R revolvers." But probably the real winner is the WC's mentioned above. They seem to give FBI minimum penetration even at .32 S&W Long velocities. 21,000 PSI ain't much to work with. There is no such animal as 32 H&R Magnum +P according to SAAMI. I trust BB to be safe, but still have concerns. I'm not going to bug anyone if they want to use it, but I'm sure I'll pass on this project. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 11:15:01 AM EDT
[#47]
I was all set to wait for the 32 Fed 3" LCRx
but now I want both |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 8:29:43 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Papposilenus: I was all set to wait for the 32 Fed 3" LCRx but now I want both I've been wanting a .327 Fed, but this may do the trick. I was leaning toward the LCRx but prefer a J frame. A scanium .327 would be sweet. How long until they hit the shelves? |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 9:58:26 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By owlless: I've been wanting a .327 Fed, but this may do the trick. I was leaning toward the LCRx but prefer a J frame. A scanium .327 would be sweet. How long until they hit the shelves? I’m hearing late Feb. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 10:31:13 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: no, the better defensive load for a 32 is a hot wadcutter, like the Lost River load in the Lipsey's promo Wadcutters are what I sell for 2" .38 SPL revolvers. |
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