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Posted: 4/3/2024 8:52:04 AM EDT
A friend has offered this to me. I have never even heard about this 1911 before. A little help would be appreciated.
  
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:05:08 AM EDT
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Japanese prop pistol?
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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:05:32 AM EDT
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Never seen or heard of that one before, but it looks like a blank firing replica gun.
https://www.jbmilitaryantiques.com.au/product/japanese-blank-firing-pistol-colt-1911/ ~Augee |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:19:58 AM EDT
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That’s really cool!
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:32:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thebert]
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never mind
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:11:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee: Never seen or heard of that one before, but it looks like a blank firing replica gun. https://www.jbmilitaryantiques.com.au/product/japanese-blank-firing-pistol-colt-1911/ ~Augee Thank you |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 6:22:49 PM EDT
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It looks like one of the blow back 1911’s from Collectors Armory.
The cartridges are three pieces if I remember correctly. The case is threaded in two pieces and a cap sat on the primer in the bottom of the case. The firing pin is in the barrel. The hammer pushes the primer which pushes the cap into the firing pin. The gun goes off with enough energy to cycle the action, feeding another round into the chamber. I have a blow back copy of a S&W Model 76 submachine gun. And I knew a guy with an Uzi. Neither was reliable. I was lucky to get a couple shots off in semi before it jammed. Forget full auto. The caps were dirty and might have been corrosive. I am shocked they go for that much money. You can’t find caps or the cartridges anywhere now. I only got five or six with the gun which made you buy more if you wanted to fill the mag. I would sell it and get the real thing. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 7:37:56 PM EDT
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I had the combat master 1911 blank gun. Once I figured out who to load the caps its worked perfectly fine. When I got down to the last few caps I tried "helping" them out with a little powder from a 22. Well as was said the firing pin was in the barrel, and after what I did I mean "was" in the barrel. It flew about 10 feet.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2024 8:56:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mlin]
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Realistic-looking Japanese toy guns have rich history in Asia and around the world. In Japan, they actually have all sorts of periodicals/magazines for toy guns like we have gun magazines published monthly.
Hollywood was known to use Japanese prop guns in the last century as non-lethal solution for safety concern. The most visible examples are in the movie "Full Metal Jacket". M16 metal props from MGC Japan were widely use for non-shooting scenes. Also even Navy Seal used prop gun in one of the well published photo. Navy Seal  FMJ movie  I have a couple of those prop 1911 made by MGC Japan. Not metal, but heavy weight plastic (metal content mixed in the plastic). Yes, those can fire cap cartridge and ejecting brass cartridge specially made for cap guns. I use those as display models without the risk of leaving real guns unattended.     Air Force GAU-5/A prop  |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:09:38 PM EDT
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Thanks everyone for the history on these type firearms.
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Posted: 4/4/2024 9:10:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lilMAC25]
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Here’s one I didn’t know existed.
Para 14.45 DA. A double stack DOUBLE ACTION ONLY swivel trigger 1911.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/4/2024 10:26:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: Here’s one I didn’t know existed. Para 14.45 DA. A double stack DOUBLE ACTION ONLY swivel trigger 1911. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71141/IMG_4500_png-3178460.JPG  They started in Canada, moved to the US, got bought out by somebody, Sarco still have some parts. They invented the doublestack .45 and you'd never heard of em?
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Posted: 4/4/2024 10:43:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: They started in Canada, moved to the US, got bought out by somebody, Sarco still have some parts. They invented the doublestack .45 and you'd never heard of em?Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Here’s one I didn’t know existed. Para 14.45 DA. A double stack DOUBLE ACTION ONLY swivel trigger 1911. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71141/IMG_4500_png-3178460.JPG They started in Canada, moved to the US, got bought out by somebody, Sarco still have some parts. They invented the doublestack .45 and you'd never heard of em?Remington is who bought them. Think he's pointing out the LDA as the oddity which it definitely was. |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 10:50:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Remington is who bought them. Think he's pointing out the LDA as the oddity which it definitely was. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Here’s one I didn’t know existed. Para 14.45 DA. A double stack DOUBLE ACTION ONLY swivel trigger 1911. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71141/IMG_4500_png-3178460.JPG They started in Canada, moved to the US, got bought out by somebody, Sarco still have some parts. They invented the doublestack .45 and you'd never heard of em?Remington is who bought them. Think he's pointing out the LDA as the oddity which it definitely was. Thank you. I know who Para is. I’ve never heard of a DAO Swivel trigger 1911. Until yesterday. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2024 10:02:06 AM EDT
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Extremely informative thread. Thanks.
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Posted: 4/7/2024 9:19:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: Thank you. I know who Para is. I’ve never heard of a DAO Swivel trigger 1911. Until yesterday. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Here’s one I didn’t know existed. Para 14.45 DA. A double stack DOUBLE ACTION ONLY swivel trigger 1911. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71141/IMG_4500_png-3178460.JPG They started in Canada, moved to the US, got bought out by somebody, Sarco still have some parts. They invented the doublestack .45 and you'd never heard of em?Remington is who bought them. Think he's pointing out the LDA as the oddity which it definitely was. Thank you. I know who Para is. I’ve never heard of a DAO Swivel trigger 1911. Until yesterday. Have you ever heard of the Colt Double Eagle? |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 12:35:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: Thank you. I know who Para is. I’ve never heard of a DAO Swivel trigger 1911. Until yesterday. Yes, these things were pushed rather hard by them for about 10 years and stayed unsold in droves, further proving that the last good idea Para had was the doublestack frame. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 5:52:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Have you ever heard of the Colt Double Eagle? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Here’s one I didn’t know existed. Para 14.45 DA. A double stack DOUBLE ACTION ONLY swivel trigger 1911. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71141/IMG_4500_png-3178460.JPG They started in Canada, moved to the US, got bought out by somebody, Sarco still have some parts. They invented the doublestack .45 and you'd never heard of em?Remington is who bought them. Think he's pointing out the LDA as the oddity which it definitely was. Thank you. I know who Para is. I’ve never heard of a DAO Swivel trigger 1911. Until yesterday. Have you ever heard of the Colt Double Eagle? I have HEARD or read the name l, never saw one in person or was told it was similar to that Para. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 6:19:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: I have HEARD or read the name l, never saw one in person or was told it was similar to that Para. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Here’s one I didn’t know existed. Para 14.45 DA. A double stack DOUBLE ACTION ONLY swivel trigger 1911. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71141/IMG_4500_png-3178460.JPG They started in Canada, moved to the US, got bought out by somebody, Sarco still have some parts. They invented the doublestack .45 and you'd never heard of em?Remington is who bought them. Think he's pointing out the LDA as the oddity which it definitely was. Thank you. I know who Para is. I’ve never heard of a DAO Swivel trigger 1911. Until yesterday. Have you ever heard of the Colt Double Eagle? I have HEARD or read the name l, never saw one in person or was told it was similar to that Para. It's a Colt decocking DA/SA 1911 single stack. I think I've seen one. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 10:28:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: It's a Colt decocking DA/SA 1911 single stack. I think I've seen one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Here’s one I didn’t know existed. Para 14.45 DA. A double stack DOUBLE ACTION ONLY swivel trigger 1911. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71141/IMG_4500_png-3178460.JPG They started in Canada, moved to the US, got bought out by somebody, Sarco still have some parts. They invented the doublestack .45 and you'd never heard of em?Remington is who bought them. Think he's pointing out the LDA as the oddity which it definitely was. Thank you. I know who Para is. I’ve never heard of a DAO Swivel trigger 1911. Until yesterday. Have you ever heard of the Colt Double Eagle? I have HEARD or read the name l, never saw one in person or was told it was similar to that Para. It's a Colt decocking DA/SA 1911 single stack. I think I've seen one. Looks like a Colt version of the S&W GenIII |
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Posted: 4/10/2024 10:45:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: I have HEARD or read the name l, never saw one in person or was told it was similar to that Para. It's not like the Para. LDA stands for Light Double Action and it was very light compared to traditional DA which is what the Double Eagle was from what I remember. I remember thinking the LDA was like the HK LEM. It was made for the people that are against carrying cocked and locked or prohibited by policy from doing so. Never really caught on. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 9:23:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: It's not like the Para. LDA stands for Light Double Action and it was very light compared to traditional DA which is what the Double Eagle was from what I remember. I remember thinking the LDA was like the HK LEM. It was made for the people that are against carrying cocked and locked or prohibited by policy from doing so. Never really caught on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: I have HEARD or read the name l, never saw one in person or was told it was similar to that Para. It's not like the Para. LDA stands for Light Double Action and it was very light compared to traditional DA which is what the Double Eagle was from what I remember. I remember thinking the LDA was like the HK LEM. It was made for the people that are against carrying cocked and locked or prohibited by policy from doing so. Never really caught on. My friend just bought one. He loves it. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 4:29:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: Thank you. I know who Para is. I’ve never heard of a DAO Swivel trigger 1911. Until yesterday. I had a LDA. The trigger pull felt weird and I was always worried it was going to break. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 4:29:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GaryT1776]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Have you ever heard of the Colt Double Eagle? I had one of these also. I bought it at a huge semi-local-to-me gun store around 1993. It looked and felt like a "pre production" gun ... not refined but getting there. It had that "mock up" vibe that is common during the development of a design. Stated another way, it reminded me of those war-time Japanese clone/copies of US rifles. They "sort of" looked like they weren't designed by a fourth grader and assembled out of parts bought at a local DIY shop ... but sort of did too. Since I'm a glutton for punishment, I bought a Colt Poly (DA 380ACP) about five years later. ETA: my Double Eagle was 10mm ... not 45ACP. It was also incredibly unreliable. I had a miserable time selling it. |
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