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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2023 7:06:18 PM EDT
So I bought a P12. Wanting to put an Ambi safety on it. Have my eye on a Wilson Combat tactical. Are there any issues with fitment due to the Para's double stack frame?
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Posted: 8/7/2023 7:21:38 PM EDT
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Wide frame means no single stack safety. You’ll have to find a compatible one
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Posted: 8/7/2023 7:46:28 PM EDT
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Should be good to go with standard 1911 thumb safetys.
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Posted: 8/7/2023 11:27:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RiverSwine45: Should be good to go with standard 1911 thumb safetys. Hang on. I have paras and single stacks. How could the same safety for a single stack work on a much wider frame? It can’t. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2023 12:06:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCER: Hang on. I have paras and single stacks. How could the same safety for a single stack work on a much wider frame? It can’t. Because the frame is actually not wider where it matters. It’s only the grip that is wider and slims down around where the mag rear ends. Main spring housing, thumb and grip safeties are 1911. The only different parts specific to Para are the trigger bow and the mag catch. Everything else is 1911 spec. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 12:12:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DVCER]
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Damn I think you are correct. Para does taper back up there.
I’m thinking about my DS1911 . Wider up there. Good catch. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:38:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RiverSwine45]
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 Attached File Attached FileI think the only non standard parts in the fat para frames are the trigger and mag catch. And grips of course. Already mentioned, disregard |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2023 7:18:48 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2023 1:17:25 AM EDT
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Pick from the selection of standard 1911 ambi safeties.
But… It’s a 1911. It’s not unlikely it will not be a drop in and need to be fitted. |
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HI, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2023 3:45:25 AM EDT
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It’s been awhile since I’ve seen a para
The problem with most ambi safeties are the right side paddle is retained by a tab fits in a cut out in the grips or frame, paras don’t have them I used the old kings gun works ambi safety that had a tongue and groove setup with the hammer pin and right side paddle EGW make one that is similar https://www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/?frame_components=923 |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 2:30:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By supercomp: It’s been awhile since I’ve seen a para The problem with most ambi safeties are the right side paddle is retained by a tab fits in a cut out in the grips or frame, paras don’t have them I used the old kings gun works ambi safety that had a tongue and groove setup with the hammer pin and right side paddle EGW make one that is similar https://www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/?frame_components=923 That little tab style slipped my mind. @SAR1 you mentioned wanting a wilson tactical ambi safety. Wilson makes both styles- grip retained tactical and a hammer pin retained tactical model like supercomp mentioned. You don't want grip retained. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 2:43:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RiverSwine45]
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Double
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2023 9:25:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RiverSwine45: That little tab style slipped my mind. @SAR1 you mentioned wanting a wilson tactical ambi safety. Wilson makes both styles- grip retained tactical and a hammer pin retained tactical model like supercomp mentioned. You don't want grip retained. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RiverSwine45: Originally Posted By supercomp: It’s been awhile since I’ve seen a para The problem with most ambi safeties are the right side paddle is retained by a tab fits in a cut out in the grips or frame, paras don’t have them I used the old kings gun works ambi safety that had a tongue and groove setup with the hammer pin and right side paddle EGW make one that is similar https://www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/?frame_components=923 That little tab style slipped my mind. @SAR1 you mentioned wanting a wilson tactical ambi safety. Wilson makes both styles- grip retained tactical and a hammer pin retained tactical model like supercomp mentioned. You don't want grip retained. This isn't correct. The double stack Para's can use grip-retained ambi safety's just fine. Look at your grips and see if they have a groove cut for the safety retaining tab. All of my Para's and double stack Remingtons (same design) do. Stock image below showing the tab. 
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Posted: 8/24/2023 9:18:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobTheGreat: This isn't correct. The double stack Para's can use grip-retained ambi safety's just fine. Look at your grips and see if they have a groove cut for the safety retaining tab. All of my Para's and double stack Remingtons (same design) do. Stock image below showing the tab. https://paraordnanceguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/SS79091-510x356.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobTheGreat: Originally Posted By RiverSwine45: Originally Posted By supercomp: It’s been awhile since I’ve seen a para The problem with most ambi safeties are the right side paddle is retained by a tab fits in a cut out in the grips or frame, paras don’t have them I used the old kings gun works ambi safety that had a tongue and groove setup with the hammer pin and right side paddle EGW make one that is similar https://www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/?frame_components=923 That little tab style slipped my mind. @SAR1 you mentioned wanting a wilson tactical ambi safety. Wilson makes both styles- grip retained tactical and a hammer pin retained tactical model like supercomp mentioned. You don't want grip retained. This isn't correct. The double stack Para's can use grip-retained ambi safety's just fine. Look at your grips and see if they have a groove cut for the safety retaining tab. All of my Para's and double stack Remingtons (same design) do. Stock image below showing the tab. https://paraordnanceguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/SS79091-510x356.jpg With the factory grips on my old Canadian P12-45 those won't work.  Attached FileIt's my only para unfortunately. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2023 7:07:21 PM EDT
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Good to know that some of them don't have the groove in the grips. I wonder if that was true across the board in particular years or only on certain models. I've only seen the other type.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2023 4:49:45 PM EDT
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Grips, grip screws, triggers, and mag release are the only parts that don't interchange.
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