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Posted: 10/2/2022 4:27:11 PM EDT
Came across the EAA GIRSAN MC28SA 9MM TITANIUM TUTONE for $290.

It looks like a really nice Glock Copy. My buddy is looking for a quality low priced HG.

Any replies are appreciated.

Link Posted: 10/2/2022 4:58:51 PM EDT
[#1]
I’ve got one of their 9mm 1911’s. Seems to be a fairly reasonable pistol.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 5:03:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sparky923] [#2]
Get one!
The magazine safety is REALLY easy to remove.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 5:09:27 PM EDT
[#3]
They are supposed to be releasing different versions of the Hi-Power with various degrees of change, one version to include a rail.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 5:13:16 PM EDT
[#4]
I would buy a used Glock for 300 instead
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 5:13:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Capt_Destro] [#5]
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Same exact model you were looking at...

Originally Posted By sparky923:
Get one!
The magazine safety is REALLY easy to remove.
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Now removing the striker assembly from your orbital is a bit more challenging.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 7:30:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capt_Destro:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/333164/Grenade_PNG-2548102.JPG

Same exact model you were looking at...




Now removing the striker assembly from your orbital is a bit more challenging.
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What is the whole story on these pics? Looks like there was a kaboom since the side of the frame is missing. Enough over pressure could just as likely cause that with a whole raft of striker fired designs.

We need the details!

@Capt_Destro
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 7:47:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 44-40pro:



What is the whole story on these pics? Looks like there was a kaboom since the side of the frame is missing. Enough over pressure could just as likely cause that with a whole raft of striker fired designs.

We need the details!






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Did you miss the part where the striker is in dude's eye?
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 7:55:08 PM EDT
[#8]
Needs aluminum backplate?
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:08:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 44-40pro:



What is the whole story on these pics? Looks like there was a kaboom since the side of the frame is missing. Enough over pressure could just as likely cause that with a whole raft of striker fired designs. Hence the Striker embedding in the dude's eye.

We need the details!

@Capt_Destro
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Originally Posted By 44-40pro:
Originally Posted By Capt_Destro:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/333164/Grenade_PNG-2548102.JPG

Same exact model you were looking at...




Now removing the striker assembly from your orbital is a bit more challenging.



What is the whole story on these pics? Looks like there was a kaboom since the side of the frame is missing. Enough over pressure could just as likely cause that with a whole raft of striker fired designs. Hence the Striker embedding in the dude's eye.

We need the details!

@Capt_Destro


Just something I stumbled across last year.

IIRC the back plate was plastic with no reinforcement.
From what I read the striker channel design doesn't have any other openings iirc? So this made the pressure from the kaboom a bit worse than other handguns. I could be wrong on that.

If I had to go Turkish I'd go with a different model imo. Girsan makes some decent stuff as long as it's a M9 or 1911 clone.

@OP

I'd get the Canik or Sarsilmaz SAR9 on a budger if you are buying Turkish.

For budget American brands: PSA Dagger, S&W SDVE/Ruger Double Stack/Beretta APX for a cheap 9mm.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Turkish-handgun-kaboom-Have-we-done-this-yet-/5-2435458/&page=2
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:16:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capt_Destro:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/333164/Grenade_PNG-2548102.JPG

Same exact model you were looking at...




Now removing the striker assembly from your orbital is a bit more challenging.
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Originally Posted By Capt_Destro:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/333164/Grenade_PNG-2548102.JPG

Same exact model you were looking at...

Originally Posted By sparky923:
Get one!
The magazine safety is REALLY easy to remove.



Now removing the striker assembly from your orbital is a bit more challenging.

According to EAA, that isn't a MC28SA.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:18:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capt_Destro:


Just something I stumbled across last year.

IIRC the back plate was plastic with no reinforcement.
From what I read the striker channel design doesn't have any other openings iirc? So this made the pressure from the kaboom a bit worse than other handguns. I could be wrong on that.

If I had to go Turkish I'd go with a different model imo. Girsan makes some decent stuff as long as it's a M9 or 1911 clone.

@OP

I'd get the Canik or Sarsilmaz SAR9 on a budger if you are buying Turkish.

For budget American brands: PSA Dagger, S&W SDVE/Ruger Double Stack/Beretta APX for a cheap 9mm.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Turkish-handgun-kaboom-Have-we-done-this-yet-/5-2435458/&page=2
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SAR9 is built like a tank. Polishing the internals makes for an extremely smooth trigger pull.  Grip is very VP9 like.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:24:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By erazor55:

SAR9 is built like a tank. Polishing the internals makes for an extremely smooth trigger pull.  Grip is very VP9 like.
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Originally Posted By erazor55:
Originally Posted By Capt_Destro:


Just something I stumbled across last year.

IIRC the back plate was plastic with no reinforcement.
From what I read the striker channel design doesn't have any other openings iirc? So this made the pressure from the kaboom a bit worse than other handguns. I could be wrong on that.

If I had to go Turkish I'd go with a different model imo. Girsan makes some decent stuff as long as it's a M9 or 1911 clone.

@OP

I'd get the Canik or Sarsilmaz SAR9 on a budger if you are buying Turkish.

For budget American brands: PSA Dagger, S&W SDVE/Ruger Double Stack/Beretta APX for a cheap 9mm.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Turkish-handgun-kaboom-Have-we-done-this-yet-/5-2435458/&page=2

SAR9 is built like a tank. Polishing the internals makes for an extremely smooth trigger pull.  Grip is very VP9 like.


Seriously think they would of hit a home run if it took Glock Magazines.

It's pretty much a Glock frame with a VP9 Grip, that takes metal mags, which aint a bad thing I guess.
Also noticed is has some Canik Esque Aesthetics. It's a very nice looking pistol.

Just wish it wasn't Turkish

I heard OEM ones could be a bit pricy. But you can adapt other mags to it such as Canik, and even Sig mags with a cut out.
Havent purchased one but I've been doing some reading on them.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:32:03 PM EDT
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Did you miss the part where the striker is in dude's eye?
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Did you even read my post. Yeah, I did see that pic. I do not believe that pistol merely came apart at the back plate on the slide. A large part of the right side of the frame is missing. Indicative to me of a more serious failure.

THAT IS WHY I ASKED FOR MORE DETAILS.

Did you miss that in the picture?
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:38:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 44-40pro:




Did you even read my post. Yeah, I did see that pic. I do not believe that pistol merely came apart at the back plate on the slide. A large part of the right side of the frame is missing. Indicative to me of a more serious failure.

THAT IS WHY I ASKED FOR MORE DETAILS.

Did you miss that in the picture?
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Originally Posted By 44-40pro:
Originally Posted By MisterPX:


Did you miss the part where the striker is in dude's eye?




Did you even read my post. Yeah, I did see that pic. I do not believe that pistol merely came apart at the back plate on the slide. A large part of the right side of the frame is missing. Indicative to me of a more serious failure.

THAT IS WHY I ASKED FOR MORE DETAILS.

Did you miss that in the picture?


I think it happened in Turkey so we'll never really know. But like it's speculated it was a double charge/bad ammo.

An aluminum slide plate could of prevented the striker assembly shooting out, or even a reinforced one glock uses. Never understood why companies will cheap out on a $5 part
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:53:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 44-40pro:




Did you even read my post. Yeah, I did see that pic. I do not believe that pistol merely came apart at the back plate on the slide. A large part of the right side of the frame is missing. Indicative to me of a more serious failure.

THAT IS WHY I ASKED FOR MORE DETAILS.

Did you miss that in the picture?
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"Looks like there was a kaboom since the side of the frame is missing. "

That's why I mentioned the striker in the eye.  Enough pressure to blow through the breechface via the striker.

Link Posted: 10/3/2022 5:54:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lin1958] [#16]
Thanks for the input everyone! Definitely don't need a striker in the eye, yet that has to be something with the ammo.

Still not sure, might go Canik for a tad more of more likely wait on it.
Link Posted: 10/3/2022 8:17:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lin1958:
Thanks for the input everyone! Definitely don't need a striker in the eye, yet that has to be something with the ammo.

Still not sure, might go Canik for a tad more of more likely wait on it.
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Canik, even the base models are amazing for their money.

They are more or less Walther's at heart, so you can't really go wrong with a clone of a reputable firearm. They even have a model that mimics the whole DA/SA setup of the Walther P99/S&W SW99. Or you can just go with the glock-ish version.
Link Posted: 11/12/2022 7:00:53 AM EDT
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It is more of a M&P clone.
My advice is to pass.
I purchased  2 of these(1 full size &1 compcact ) when Zenith  with the importer and was selling them  super cheap.  I sold both.
Look for a used or new SAR9 it is everything Glock is and everything  Glock wishes it could be.
It is internally a glock with the externals of a HK.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 12:25:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lin1958:
Thanks for the input everyone! Definitely don't need a striker in the eye, yet that has to be something with the ammo.

Still not sure, might go Canik for a tad more of more likely wait on it.
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I can tell you the Canik’s are nice pistols, but the price has been creeping up on them and I don’t know they they are as worth it now.

I’m still curious about the Sars and the Girsans since they haven’t quite “arrived” yet like Canik has.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 12:09:07 AM EDT
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Got a pristine Canik TP9SF for $225 at the LGS.
Look around for such deals.
Link Posted: 9/4/2023 9:21:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wganz:
Got a pristine Canik TP9SF for $225 at the LGS.
Look around for such deals.
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Where?
Link Posted: 9/9/2023 1:40:26 AM EDT
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GunMaster in Plano. It was a consignment piece.
Link Posted: 9/9/2023 2:03:35 AM EDT
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$250 PSA Daggers have drastically changed my opinion  of what constitutes a good deal in a polymer, striker fired pistol…

Why even try anything else?
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 1:12:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aggie_Gunner:
$250 PSA Daggers have drastically changed my opinion of what constitutes a good deal in a polymer, striker fired pistol…

Why even try anything else?
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That is where I am now.  At that price point and an American pro-2A company, why go elsewhere?
Still, that Canik on consignment was cheaper.............
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