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IL, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2022 3:48:46 PM EDT
Just wanted to know if anyone can give some info about release date or any other details without violating NDAs.
S&W Pistol patent published 04-21-2022 Click To View Spoiler Click To View Spoiler  
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Posted: 11/5/2022 5:16:24 PM EDT
[#1]
Well, damn it, now I need one.
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Posted: 11/5/2022 5:45:05 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes please.
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Posted: 11/5/2022 5:57:31 PM EDT
[#3]
Well that's interesting
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2022 6:07:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Sounds like the old Beretta Cougar with the rotating barrel. Problem with suppressors as it'll unthread the can from what I've heard. But it's a cool design idea. Of course the Browning action remains king.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2022 7:27:25 PM EDT
[#5]
I could use a M&P 5.7 in my life.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2022 10:42:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunDisaster: Sounds like the old Beretta Cougar with the rotating barrel. Problem with suppressors as it'll unthread the can from what I've heard. But it's a cool design idea. Of course the Browning action remains king. According to the patents this has a barrel sleeve which is threaded, which the rotating barrel rides in. This would fix that issue. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2022 11:15:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Evintos: Just wanted to know if anyone can give some info about release date or any other details without violating NDAs. S&W Pistol patent published 04-21-2022 Click To View Spoiler Click To View Spoiler https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/15/e8/fc/16cf6d87fe3b35/US20220120524A1-20220421-D00000.png https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/c3/bc/43/122ce8a6829f6b/US20220120524A1-20220421-D00001.png Great find man. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2022 11:25:40 AM EDT
[#8]
Love the idea. Hopefully they dont ruin it with a shitty trigger or a grip that feels like you're holding a dog turd.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2022 11:54:30 AM EDT
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How about more ammo production?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2022 11:58:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sparky923: How about more ammo production? Waiting on AAC to come through with their plant. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2022 12:39:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Evintos]
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https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3Aldkjr4.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=live&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=smith+wesson&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24OW&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
Lots of trademarks that are live and fairly recent. No clue if any of these would be used. Edit - above link may be expired. See follow up post. Originally Posted By giantpune: Love the idea. Hopefully they dont ruin it with a shitty trigger or a grip that feels like you're holding a dog turd. 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2022 12:41:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evintos: https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3Aldkjr4.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=live&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=smith+wesson&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24OW&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query Lots of trademarks that are live and fairly recent. No clue if any of these would be used. alas the trademark search is listed as 'expired.' What should we search for, 'S&W'? |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2022 12:53:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Evintos]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: alas the trademark search is listed as 'expired.' What should we search for, 'S&W'? Multiple links in case of link expiration. https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/search https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=login&p_lang=english&p_d=trmk https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4803:3xueek.1.1 I use "smith wesson" and the drop down menu for Field - Owner Name and Address   
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Posted: 11/7/2022 8:57:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jsuevo]
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2023 11:24:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Evintos]
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Posted: 1/17/2023 11:38:45 AM EDT
[#16]
I'm going to need one :D
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Posted: 1/18/2023 11:47:55 PM EDT
[#17]
Yep. Interesting fo sure.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2023 8:57:40 PM EDT
[#18]
Any talk of when these will become available?
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Posted: 1/20/2023 12:13:05 AM EDT
[#19]
Must be soon, there were pre sales on gun broker
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Posted: 1/20/2023 5:58:35 PM EDT
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2023 6:27:15 PM EDT
[#21]
How's the trigger? Performance Center level, Apex Tactical M&P level, or mediocre?
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Posted: 1/20/2023 10:50:02 PM EDT
[#22]
I would say it felt just like the standard m&p 2.0 trigger, except flat.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2023 11:01:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evintos: How's the trigger? Performance Center level, Apex Tactical M&P level, or mediocre? Somewhere in between. Take-up was cleaner than the M&P 2.0, the break kind of rolled instead of being really crisp, had some over travel. I liked it, but it's not refined and will not be confused with an Apex kit. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2023 1:15:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Evintos]
[#24]
Appreciate the info about the trigger. Thanks!
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KY, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2023 9:21:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FloridaMan11b]
[#25]
I wonder if anyone will make light bearing holsters for this.
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2023 8:31:37 PM EDT
[#26]
My review is below for folks wanting to see it in action
https://rumble.com/v26lzf0-smith-and-wesson-m-and-p-5.7-review.html |
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Posted: 1/23/2023 10:24:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mrgunsngear: My review is below for folks wanting to see it in action https://rumble.com/v26lzf0-smith-and-wesson-m-and-p-5.7-review.html |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2023 7:35:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mrgunsngear: My review is below for folks wanting to see it in action https://rumble.com/v26lzf0-smith-and-wesson-m-and-p-5.7-review.html Great review, thank you. Look forward to seeing your wife test the pistol, as I think a major market for the pistol could be women and those that are recoil sensitive. Very curious to see how the fixed threaded barrel plays with Fiocchi's new 62gr Subsonic 5.7 https://www.targetsportsusa.com/fiocchi-range-dynamics-5-7-28mm-ammo-fn-subsonic-62-grain-fmj-57sub62-p-112685.aspx |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2023 9:42:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mrgunsngear: My review is below for folks wanting to see it in action https://rumble.com/v26lzf0-smith-and-wesson-m-and-p-5.7-review.html As others stated, thanks for the video |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:53:02 AM EDT
[#30]
I see the trigger is an internal hammer design- my question is, is it more along the lines of a Glock, as in perfectly safe to carry without a manual safety? I know some striker fired pistols have, in an attempt to have a great trigger pull, had a setup more akin to carrying a single action pistol cocked with no safety.
I greatly prefer no manual safety, but want to be sure this would be safe to carry this way. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2023 1:15:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Evintos]
[#31]
Seems pretty safe to me. Trigger shoe safety prevents inadvertent rearward trigger movement. Firing pin block prevents firing pin movement unless pushed out of the way by the trigger bar. Firing pin spring biases the firing pin rearwards preventing forward movement unless struck with the hammer.
Edit to add side note - based on design, trigger job could/would involve hammer spring, hammer spring strut, hammer & sear engagement surfaces, firing pin block and trigger bar engagement surface, firing pin block spring, trigger return spring.  
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USA
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Posted: 1/24/2023 3:02:10 PM EDT
[#32]
Can't see how it'd be unsafe to carry it without a thumb safety based on design...
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KY, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2023 4:34:17 PM EDT
[#33]
So you can only mount small optics like the RMRcc or will regular size pistol red dots fit too and just hang off the sides a little?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2023 8:09:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FloridaMan11b: So you can only mount small optics like the RMRcc or will regular size pistol red dots fit too and just hang off the sides a little? One of the reviews said it would be the latter iirc |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2023 8:12:08 AM EDT
[#35]
Mrgunsngear
I appreciate you posting a link to the video, I’m going to have to sign up for Rumble now. Has anyone tried it with a 5.7 capable .22 can? I wonder how my Sparrow would do on it or if the barrel is concentric enough being a 2 piece design. |
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Posted: 1/31/2023 3:00:29 PM EDT
[#36]
I HAVE to get this!
One review said lowest recoil of ANY 5.7X28mm pistol (not that any of them have much) |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2023 3:42:34 PM EDT
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Any new reviews posted?
Pretty excited about this one. It’s about the same height as a 365 macro, same width, just longer. Might see how this works out on the hip haha |
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Posted: 1/31/2023 3:44:22 PM EDT
[#38]
I'm trying to acquire one :D
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Posted: 1/31/2023 8:36:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PursuitSS: I HAVE to get this! One review said lowest recoil of ANY 5.7X28mm pistol (not that any of them have much) This is on my list now, I have had a couple FN 5.7s and currently own the Ruger 57 but would gladly own this S&W when I get my hands on it. I like the optics mounting better than the Ruger and of course the recoil should be even lighter. |
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Posted: 1/31/2023 8:41:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/5/2023 4:10:42 PM EDT
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Would the Holosun EPS or EPS carry be a better fit for this gun?
And what's up with that unsightly gap at the front of the frame and slide? It looks like the front of the frame is drooping. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 5:06:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By c7aea15: Would the Holosun EPS or EPS carry be a better fit for this gun? And what's up with that unsightly gap at the front of the frame and slide? It looks like the front of the frame is drooping. Yeah, that looks terrible, you'd think they'd have mad an adjustment to the mold or something. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 8:45:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hulley: Yeah, that looks terrible, you'd think they'd have mad an adjustment to the mold or something. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hulley: Originally Posted By c7aea15: Would the Holosun EPS or EPS carry be a better fit for this gun? And what's up with that unsightly gap at the front of the frame and slide? It looks like the front of the frame is drooping. Yeah, that looks terrible, you'd think they'd have mad an adjustment to the mold or something. Thanks for contacting S&W today and your interest in our products. I have not heard of this as being a complaint. With the pressure of the recoil spring, it can sometimes cause this. It normal and a cause for concern. Thank you, SWCS  I still want one though. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 10:15:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By c7aea15: I still want one though. Yeah, I will be buying one for sure. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 11:37:29 PM EDT
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Got one showing up at my FFL tomorrow, I’ll post pics tomorrow, I’m curious if there will be a gap.
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Posted: 2/7/2023 6:49:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sagillman: Got one showing up at my FFL tomorrow, I’ll post pics tomorrow, I’m curious if there will be a gap. Nice, can't wait for your impression on it being a soft shooter like the YT vids have been saying. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 11:29:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hulley: Nice, can't wait for your impression on it being a soft shooter like the YT vids have been saying. Me too, I briefly owned an FN 5.7 and I’ve shot the Ruger. I’m also gonna put my heavy YHM turbo on it and see if it cycles. Since the threaded portion of the barrel stays fixed, it may work. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 7:05:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sagillman]
[#48]
Okay it was getting late so I only ran a couple mags through it. Mine does have a slight gap. it’s not as bad as mrgunsngears example but it’s there(doesn’t bother me). The felt recoil is indeed like a .22 it’s barely noticeable, going to be awesome once my EPS gets here. I also can confirm it’s cycles with my heavy ass YHM turbo. I had one fail to eject in one mag with the can on( I did not clean/lube it at all). The trigger is amazing, im used to flocks so that’s not saying much. My brother was with me and after shooting a mag through it he’s ordering one.
ETA : pitchers   Short video with the can on  M&P 5.7 YHM turbo |
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Posted: 2/8/2023 6:49:15 PM EDT
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LEO/MIL only SWGUARDIANS should get you 10% off as well.
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Posted: 2/8/2023 8:18:46 PM EDT
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So I didn’t notice this, but mine is missing the extractor! I have no idea how the hell it even functioned . Looks like it’s going back to Smith and Wesson.
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