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Posted: 12/31/2022 10:54:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sierra-def]
There is a nice thread in the Glock forum of G19s in the Special Forces but did not see a thread of the P320 in military service?

Saw that the Aussies have adopted the M18 with the X grip X Carry Pro.

Link Posted: 1/1/2023 6:21:40 PM EDT
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Canadian Military adopted the P320 which is cerakoted (above) with the Australian variant of the X Carry Pro (below)

Link Posted: 1/2/2023 9:22:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:
Canadian Military adopted the P320 which is cerakoted (above) with the Australian variant of the X Carry Pro (below)

https://soldiersystems.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/img_5094-1536x1536.jpg
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Interesting blend of features compared to American M18s.
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Originally Posted By Ruin:


Interesting blend of features compared to American M18s.
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Originally Posted By Ruin:
Originally Posted By sierra-def:
Canadian Military adopted the P320 which is cerakoted (above) with the Australian variant of the X Carry Pro (below)

https://soldiersystems.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/img_5094-1536x1536.jpg


Interesting blend of features compared to American M18s.


With Australia they got the complete Sig package. Curious how well the light is. Won't switch out my FCD plate and RMR.

I do wonder if Trijicon will do something like that Romeo 2, then again I hear there is another MRDS that Sig is developing for the military.
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:


With Australia they got the complete Sig package. Curious how well the light is. Won't switch out my FCD plate and RMR.

I do wonder if Trijicon will do something like that Romeo 2, then again I hear there is another MRDS that Sig is developing for the military.
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https://soldiersystems.net/2022/10/21/sneak-peek-sig-romeom17/?fbclid=IwAR1BBrBM9-9zmdLzAn27D1-KVpT20ep5tdm-SqV94Is_oPuvSCnR_h5rO40
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Denmark
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Part of P (Predator) Troop, 4th Squadron, 3rd Cavalry Regiment during a change of command ceremony in Iraq, July 2018. One of my issued M17s may be in this picture.



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Does anyone know of a source for the grip tapes that are cut to fit the X series grip modules? I'd prefer something a little cleaner that the regular Talon grips that you wrap around.
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Does anyone know of a source for the grip tapes that are cut to fit the X series grip modules? I'd prefer something a little cleaner that the regular Talon grips that you wrap around.
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I used to offer to laser cut them for Arfcommers, but (of course) someone wanted them in mass so they could resell them.

The cheap non-skid for floors didn't stick to the grip module well.  Other brands worked much better than what is pictured above.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 7:23:14 PM EDT
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I’d like to get one of those X grip modules like in the first pic .
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deleted - messed up tag
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@XM21Nick

I got mine from Midwest Gun Works.
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:
@XM21Nick

I got mine from Midwest Gun Works.
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Thanks but I didn’t see any that are like the one in the first pic .  They had plenty of X Grips but none with the safety cut .
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 10:57:28 PM EDT
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I think I downloaded this pic from ARFCOM.


The Danish P320 setup is my favorite.  I need to cut some new griptape for it.

Does anyone have any photos of the military use an optic on the P320, or a M18 with M18 X-Conversion?  The stock photos often shown with the X-Conversion don't match the description.
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Originally Posted By XM21Nick:

Thanks but I didn’t see any that are like the one in the first pic .  They had plenty of X Grips but none with the safety cut .
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:
@XM21Nick

I got mine from Midwest Gun Works.

Thanks but I didn’t see any that are like the one in the first pic .  They had plenty of X Grips but none with the safety cut .


You have to cut the safety notch out yourself. There is a mark that shows where to remove material.
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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58648/R5Zcvms-2660818.jpg

I think I downloaded this pic from ARFCOM.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58648/20201010_084207-1628876.jpg
The Danish P320 setup is my favorite.  I need to cut some new griptape for it.

Does anyone have any photos of the military use an optic on the P320, or a M18 with M18 X-Conversion?  The stock photos often shown with the X-Conversion don't match the description.
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That is a nice looking pistol! Cool engraving on it too.

As for optic plates there is the FCD and now Trijicon makes a pretty slick set up for both the civilian and military M17 and M18. Both are made from steel.
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:


That is a nice looking pistol! Cool engraving on it too.

As for optic plates there is the FCD and now Trijicon makes a pretty slick set up for both the civilian and military M17 and M18. Both are made from steel.
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Thanks.  SIG sold some contract overrun slides.  There is a thread here about cloning that gun.  I think I'm pretty close, but I might not have the correct barrel.  I haven't bothered to replace the grip tape after the last time it peeled off.

I don't care about aftermarket optic options.  I'm curious if the military has been running any optics yet.
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Originally Posted By Postal0311:


Thanks.  SIG sold some contract overrun slides.  There is a thread here about cloning that gun.  I think I'm pretty close, but I might not have the correct barrel.  I haven't bothered to replace the grip tape after the last time it peeled off.

I don't care about aftermarket optic options.  I'm curious if the military has been running any optics yet.
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Originally Posted By Postal0311:
Originally Posted By sierra-def:


That is a nice looking pistol! Cool engraving on it too.

As for optic plates there is the FCD and now Trijicon makes a pretty slick set up for both the civilian and military M17 and M18. Both are made from steel.


Thanks.  SIG sold some contract overrun slides.  There is a thread here about cloning that gun.  I think I'm pretty close, but I might not have the correct barrel.  I haven't bothered to replace the grip tape after the last time it peeled off.

I don't care about aftermarket optic options.  I'm curious if the military has been running any optics yet.


That I do not know but hopefully over time this will have a wealth of info and pictures like the Special Forces Glock thread. I believe Combat Diver based off of what I was reading in the other thread knows about this.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 3:21:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By grondike:
Part of P (Predator) Troop, 4th Squadron, 3rd Cavalry Regiment during a change of command ceremony in Iraq, July 2018. One of my issued M17s may be in this picture.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/622/predator-2659680.jpg

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Damn. What’s up with that one Specialist? That ain’t no shaving profile.

EDIT: disregard. Just saw its in tech.
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:


That I do not know but hopefully over time this will have a wealth of info and pictures like the Special Forces Glock thread. I believe Combat Diver based off of what I was reading in the other thread knows about this.
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While SF turned in their Beretta M9s for M17s, the SIGs sit on a shelf (same thing most M9s did) as they continue to run the Glocks.  Personal choice on which one they choose.



CD
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:

Damn. What’s up with that one Specialist? That ain’t no shaving profile.

EDIT: disregard. Just saw its in tech.
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Nor proper head gear.  I would say then religious profile/exemption.


CD
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

While SF turned in their Beretta M9s for M17s, the SIGs sit on a shelf (same thing most M9s did) as they continue to run the Glocks.  Personal choice on which one they choose.



CD
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By sierra-def:


That I do not know but hopefully over time this will have a wealth of info and pictures like the Special Forces Glock thread. I believe Combat Diver based off of what I was reading in the other thread knows about this.

While SF turned in their Beretta M9s for M17s, the SIGs sit on a shelf (same thing most M9s did) as they continue to run the Glocks.  Personal choice on which one they choose.



CD


Thank you for the info.
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Thanks for posting that, why did it get archived?
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:

Thanks for posting that, why did it get archived?
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:

Thanks for posting that, why did it get archived?

Archiving happens automatically when a thread reaches a certain point where it’s been XX days since anyone posted to the topic. That of course tends to happen when topics drop to the second page of the subforum, and people are no longer actively participating in them.

Sometimes the moderators will reactivate a topic if they get requests from forum members. It’s up to the discretion of the moderator, as I understand it.

There have been many good threads that eventually get archived. Unfortunately we can’t keep them all active. I’d like to see this old one opened up again, as an example - lots of good info in there:

P320 9mm mags
Link Posted: 1/12/2023 8:16:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:

Archiving happens automatically when a thread reaches a certain point where it’s been XX days since anyone posted to the topic. That of course tends to happen when topics drop to the second page of the subforum, and people are no longer actively participating in them.

Sometimes the moderators will reactive a topic if they get requests from forum members. It’s up to the discretion of the moderator, as I understand it.

There have been many good threads that eventually get archived. Unfortunately we can’t keep them all active. I’d like to see this old one opened up again, as an example - lots of good info in there:

P320 9mm mags
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Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
Originally Posted By sierra-def:

Thanks for posting that, why did it get archived?

Archiving happens automatically when a thread reaches a certain point where it’s been XX days since anyone posted to the topic. That of course tends to happen when topics drop to the second page of the subforum, and people are no longer actively participating in them.

Sometimes the moderators will reactive a topic if they get requests from forum members. It’s up to the discretion of the moderator, as I understand it.

There have been many good threads that eventually get archived. Unfortunately we can’t keep them all active. I’d like to see this old one opened up again, as an example - lots of good info in there:

P320 9mm mags


Thank you. I will try to keep this going then.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 1:28:35 PM EDT
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For those who aren't aware, SIG made four special M17s for the 3rd Infantry Regiment Sentinels at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington Cemetery. Aside from being beautifully polished with wood grip panels, they have a number of interesting and unique features. Highlights include an aluminum grip module, each pistol has a name engraved on the dust cover - Silence, Respect, Dignity, and Perseverance, XXI cocking serrations to represent the 21-gun salute, and aluminum bases on the 21-round magazine engraved with the names of the Greek figures featured on the Tomb of the Unknown – Peace, Victory, and Valor. This article provides more details about the four pistols:

This is the special M17 pistol that will guard The Unknown Soldier

Here are some photos from the 3rd Infantry Regiment - "The Old Guard" - FB page:

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Link Posted: 1/13/2023 1:35:55 PM EDT
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Interestingly that pistol doesn't have a safety like the other gov M17/18s
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I'll be honest, I totally missed the lack of a manual safety on those pistols. Great catch. I'm sure they're fully functional, but since (hopefully) they don't intend to ever fire them, they must have decided it provides a much cleaner appearance and is easier to maintain them in that condition.
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So Costa Rica doesn't have an actual military. But they have a para-military gendarmerie called the Public Force under their Ministry of Public Security.

They started using what appears to be what we would call a civilian P320-M17 in black.





https://www.facebook.com/Policiasdecostarica/posts/el-ministerio-de-seguridad-publica-adquiere-unas-cinco-mil-armas-de-fuego-invers/4861350730619815/
https://www.nacion.com/sucesos/seguridad/ministerio-de-seguridad-adquiere-1980-pistolas/RGIDOPY7ONE2PIA6I2AKP5CVTI/story/
Link Posted: 1/14/2023 10:25:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jack_Flag:
They started using what appears to be what we would call a civilian P320-M18 in black.
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That’s an M17, like the black version that SIG sells in their LE line:

Sig Sauer P320 M17 9mm Black Pistol with Night Sights (LE)

I can’t say I’ve heard of any U.S. LE using the M17, but the model has been available for several years.
Link Posted: 1/14/2023 11:07:46 PM EDT
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Yes, P320-M17. The M18 was a typo on my brain.

Those black P320-M17's were originally sold as a distributor exclusive for/by Talo.
Link Posted: 1/22/2023 8:01:32 PM EDT
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Damn, this thread is making me want an M18 in the worst way…
Link Posted: 1/22/2023 8:59:02 PM EDT
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That looks like a carry version of the DH3 grip.
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It's a solid pistol. Currently the civi M18 with RMR is my EDC.

Part of me wishes I grabbed one of the special M18s off the military line but the civi version seems to work fine.
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If you qualify for SIG's Armed Professional Program, Proven Arms has the M18 for $679 right now. There's some debate whether or not these are overruns from the military line, but they have the same serial number prefix, a US-marked fire control unit, and the parts have the same markings.

https://www.provenoutfitters.com/sig-p320-pow-m18-9mm

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If you qualify for SIG's Armed Professional Program, Proven Arms has the M18 for $679 right now. There's some debate whether or not these are overruns from the military line, but they have the same serial number prefix, a US-marked fire control unit, and the parts have the same markings.

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Ugh, killing me... I wasn't planning on a tan M18 because I just got a black one a couple months ago and didn't see the "need" for one. However, I really like the idea of the military production version, just don't have the budget for one at the moment.
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It's a solid pistol. Currently the civi M18 with RMR is my EDC.

Part of me wishes I grabbed one of the special M18s off the military line but the civi version seems to work fine.
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Still available through Proven Outfitters.
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Still available through Proven Outfitters.
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Looked on their site, seems to be LE/mil only unless I missed it.

Sadly I'm just a printer repairman
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Looked on their site, seems to be LE/mil only unless I missed it.

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There are a number available on gunbroker. Search SIG M18 TC. You will pay more than proven. But they're there.

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It's neat to me to know that my issued M17 could have been in one of those photos. Some of the photos directly above are funny as hell though.
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What are blue bag M17/M18 17 round mags worth?
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Proven Arms sells them new, so that’s probably a good gauge:

M17/M18 Magazines
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Proven Arms sells them new, so that’s probably a good gauge:

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Looks like 43 plus tax/shipping on 3 or more.  Was trying to figure out where to price a few of them at for the EE, thanks
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What is special about the blue mag bags?
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