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Posted: 12/16/2023 11:09:52 AM EDT
I seem to have some sort of lucky streak happening the last few months, in that I keep running up on random good deals on PX4s. Before I left for training two months ago, I found a well used but still very solid PX4 full sized for $300 OTD, and just a week ago, a LNIB PX4 full sized with two extra mags for $400 OTD.
Of course I snagged them both, and yesterday I shot the LNIB specimen and found the difference between it and my Glock 19 almost startling. The PX4 shoots, handles and feels like a million bucks, and doesn’t rub calluses in the knuckle of my middle finger like the Glock. The DA/SA trigger is worlds better than the eternal “cap gun” feel of the Glock, and I could go on. I’m continually surprised that these guns never really “caught on” like so many other handguns that, quite frankly, compare somewhat poorly to the PX4. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 12:06:57 PM EDT
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A friend of mine has a Langdon Tactical worked over PX4. I’s a really nice gun and shoots like a dream. They look chunky in pics, but I was surprised how nice it feels in the hand.
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Posted: 12/16/2023 2:55:01 PM EDT
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The PX4 has been a real revelation to me and I consider it a truly fine handgun. I did add a Talon grip and made it decock-only. Really like the rotary barrel and its effect on recoil.
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Posted: 12/16/2023 3:02:53 PM EDT
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I am not a good shot, ok at best.
The PX4 in my hands is a laser. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 4:45:39 PM EDT
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I've recently jumped into the PX4 compact. Enjoying the pistol, well two pistols, and sent one out to LTT for the optics cut, barrel recrown, and have installed a 12# spring, along with the LTT OTB.
The pistol has been running great, and I'm digging how it shoots. I need a ton of time behind the trigger before I'd say that I shoot it as well as my 92x Centurion. What I don't like about it is the grip. It is very slick, with minimal traction; A comment I hear from others as well. Tried Talons, meh. Tried another from ebay; Better, but still meh. Took the leap, and did a bit of stipple today. Much better.  Decided to ease in with the stipple. it's a light, almost grip-tape feel, and I'll find out how it feels shooting tomorrow. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 6:28:16 PM EDT
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Yes, small sample size at one event.
Went to a handgun class and the PX4's that people brought, constantly jammed and for the entire day, not a single one could go more than 2 rounds without jamming. Soured me on them since then. Wish you well with them. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 1:29:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wganz: Yes, small sample size at one event. Went to a handgun class and the PX4's that people brought, constantly jammed and for the entire day, not a single one could go more than 2 rounds without jamming. Soured me on them since then. Wish you well with them. Funny you should mention malfunctions; My Glock 19 had a “dead trigger” failure to fire and ejected a live round after I did immediate action. Striker didn’t reset during one string. PX4 ran flawlessly the whole day. Conclusive? Hardly. As you said, small sample size at one event, kinda like the class you attended. I think my PX4s will do just fine. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 1:47:35 AM EDT
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My wife and I are both big fans of our Compact. I think one day I'll get a full sized too. We've got a Subcompact, and oddly it does not have the rotating barrel action that I love on the Compact.
 3D Animation: How a Beretta PX4 Storm Pistol works |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/17/2023 10:22:46 AM EDT
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Picked up a full size a year ago. I like it. Mine has been reliable, decently accurate and pleasant to shoot.
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USA
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Posted: 12/17/2023 10:53:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wganz: Yes, small sample size at one event. Went to a handgun class and the PX4's that people brought, constantly jammed and for the entire day, not a single one could go more than 2 rounds without jamming. Soured me on them since then. Wish you well with them. I don't believe that for a second, no more than 2 rounds? PX4's are always reported as being extremely reliable, and run just about anything without failures. Mine has been 100% for years as well as being the most accurate handgun I have. There is more to that story or it is an exaggeration. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 11:19:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steamedliver: I am not a good shot, ok at best. The PX4 in my hands is a laser. Same here, most accurate handgun I ever shot. Reason I reluctantly got rid of it is the safety is the opposite of a 1911 and I feared that muscle memory would fail me if I ever needed it. You have to push it up to fire. Opposite of every pistol I ever owned. It was an incredibly accurate firearm. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 12/17/2023 11:20:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: diamondd817]
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Originally Posted By doubleclaw: I seem to have some sort of lucky streak happening the last few months, in that I keep running up on random good deals on PX4s. Before I left for training two months ago, I found a well used but still very solid PX4 full sized for $300 OTD, and just a week ago, a LNIB PX4 full sized with two extra mags for $400 OTD. Of course I snagged them both, and yesterday I shot the LNIB specimen and found the difference between it and my Glock 19 almost startling. The PX4 shoots, handles and feels like a million bucks, and doesn’t rub calluses in the knuckle of my middle finger like the Glock. The DA/SA trigger is worlds better than the eternal “cap gun” feel of the Glock, and I could go on. I’m continually surprised that these guns never really “caught on” like so many other handguns that, quite frankly, compare somewhat poorly to the PX4. If you really want to have a nice trigger, upgrade to the Beretta Competition Trigger Group, add the Langdon LTT Trigger Bar and the PX4 D Spring. That's what I did to my PX4 FS and my PX4 Compact. Wow is all I can say. And of course, install the Stealth/Low Pro decocker and slide stop Tyge G Conversion from Beretta. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 11:35:48 AM EDT
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We are in an amazing era in which if a handgun is being manufactured by a legitimate company, it’s going to work the vast majority of the time and probably be plenty durable if it’s a gun designed and sold for professional use.
Pretty awesome. Old timers will wax poetic about the hand fitted steel frames of their old handguns, and they’re certainly not wrong. But they’ll probably skip over the part about half of the guns not running except in very specific circumstances and with specific (not optimal) ammo and parts needing hand fitting and magazines not being available or made to spec or being garbage from the factory. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/17/2023 12:31:20 PM EDT
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I’m a recent convert to the PX4. My only complaint is that I wish I had discovered this model earlier. I would have saved a lot of money searching for my ideal handgun. I now have one in each size, with the compact being my favorite. I have some of the LTT goodies sitting on my bench awaiting a rainy day. One tip for anyone looking at these is that there is not enough difference between the subcompact and the compact to forego the rotating barrel. I did get a subcompact in 40 just because it was such a good price but in hindsight I would have been better off getting another compact.
Fabulous guns. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 2:10:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Currently: Same here, most accurate handgun I ever shot. Reason I reluctantly got rid of it is the safety is the opposite of a 1911 and I feared that muscle memory would fail me if I ever needed it. You have to push it up to fire. Opposite of every pistol I ever owned. It was an incredibly accurate firearm. Coming from years of carrying a Colt Rail Gun every day, I had some initial thoughts about muscle memory, etc, but once I started carrying the PX4 with the safety in the up position, that became a non-issue. Just press the old “crunchenticker” and go to work. It’s not gonna go off by itself under any conceivable circumstances, because the firing pin safety is de-activated by the transfer bar moving to push the plunger up out of the way when the trigger is fully actuated. The gun cannot fire without that plunger out of the way, even if you drop it or kick hell out of it. And yes, it is amazingly accurate and smooth shooting. They turn up in my area pretty regularly for less than $400 in serviceable condition, and represent a real bargain, considering what you get for the money. |
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Posted: 12/18/2023 8:19:04 PM EDT
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I got a killer deal on a nib full size last year at 300 bucks plus tax. It seem like prices are edging up a bit new on them now to the 400-500 dollar range new.
I got very close to getting a rdo cut for it with ltt sale especially since i just got a 407c in the mail. I should had at least bought the trigger bar. Like other have said besides the grip it's a nice gun although I'm still torn about picking up some kind of cz. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 12/19/2023 12:35:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AZYoungGun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Currently: Same here, most accurate handgun I ever shot. Reason I reluctantly got rid of it is the safety is the opposite of a 1911 and I feared that muscle memory would fail me if I ever needed it. You have to push it up to fire. Opposite of every pistol I ever owned. It was an incredibly accurate firearm. You’re using the slide safety wrong. :) Ernest Langdon has a good video on the proper way to use the safety on a Beretta, using a downward sweep of the thumb like you would on a 1911 (or very similarly). But honestly, convert any future Berettas to G models and reap the benefits of a much improved system! And for those saying the PX4 is unreliable, that was likely either running them too dry (PX4s like to be run pretty wet) or possibly a damaged cam block. They’ll run a LOOONG time when properly maintained! |
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Posted: 12/19/2023 1:29:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZYoungGun: You’re using the slide safety wrong. :) Ernest Langdon has a good video on the proper way to use the safety on a Beretta, using a downward sweep of the thumb like you would on a 1911 (or very similarly). But honestly, convert any future Berettas to G models and reap the benefits of a much improved system! And for those saying the PX4 is unreliable, that was likely either running them too dry (PX4s like to be run pretty wet) or possibly a damaged cam block. They’ll run a LOOONG time when properly maintained! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZYoungGun: Originally Posted By Currently: Same here, most accurate handgun I ever shot. Reason I reluctantly got rid of it is the safety is the opposite of a 1911 and I feared that muscle memory would fail me if I ever needed it. You have to push it up to fire. Opposite of every pistol I ever owned. It was an incredibly accurate firearm. You’re using the slide safety wrong. :) Ernest Langdon has a good video on the proper way to use the safety on a Beretta, using a downward sweep of the thumb like you would on a 1911 (or very similarly). But honestly, convert any future Berettas to G models and reap the benefits of a much improved system! And for those saying the PX4 is unreliable, that was likely either running them too dry (PX4s like to be run pretty wet) or possibly a damaged cam block. They’ll run a LOOONG time when properly maintained! The PX4 I had you had to PUSH UP the safety to fire the pistol. Pulling it down with the thumb ENGAGED the safety. What you wrote does not make any sense to me. If the safety was like a 1911, I’d a kept it. |
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Posted: 12/19/2023 4:09:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Currently: The PX4 I had you had to PUSH UP the safety to fire the pistol. Pulling it down with the thumb ENGAGED the safety. What you wrote does not make any sense to me. If the safety was like a 1911, I’d a kept it. The safety on these is kinda unnecessary, which is why a lot of people swap the levers out for G conversions, which turn the pistols to de-cocker only. The DA trigger is itself a safety feature that works in conjunction with the passive firing pin safety. You can safely carry these guns with the safety off, and that eliminates the need to disengage the lever before firing. That’s a useless extra step. I’ve carried M9s, 92s and other DA/SA autos for decades without the safety levers engaged, and have never had, and do not ever expect to have any kind of accidental/negligent discharge. The passive safety features on these guns are more than adequate to the task. |
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Posted: 12/19/2023 5:00:31 PM EDT
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I have mentioned it here before but this seems a good place to do it again: Beretta itself makes some really nice Italian-made leather holsters for these (and other of their) pistols, and you don’t have to wait weeks for delivery, either.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 12/19/2023 11:01:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AZYoungGun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Currently: The PX4 I had you had to PUSH UP the safety to fire the pistol. Pulling it down with the thumb ENGAGED the safety. What you wrote does not make any sense to me. If the safety was like a 1911, I’d a kept it. Read and learn, grasshopper: The RIGHT way to deactivate a Beretta slide safety. Now watch: https://youtu.be/krR1hirk_4A?si=lcDV8ZMl58ju_5NP Having owned in excess of two dozen different Beretta pistols with slide safeties and/or decockers, I’m well aware of how the safety works and is designed, as well as how much of the general population is using it wrong lol. But the TRUE answer is the G conversion. You only need a decocker on a DA/SA. |
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Posted: 12/25/2023 2:14:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tirador223: I have mentioned it here before but this seems a good place to do it again: Beretta itself makes some really nice Italian-made leather holsters for these (and other of their) pistols, and you don’t have to wait weeks for delivery, either. https://i.imgur.com/kcyby2J.jpg The only thing that keeps me from pulling the trigger on one of those is not knowing what size the belt loops are. I wear 1.75” belts exclusively, so if they have different sized loops I’d be all over it. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/29/2023 9:55:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wganz: Yes, small sample size at one event. Went to a handgun class and the PX4's that people brought, constantly jammed and for the entire day, not a single one could go more than 2 rounds without jamming. Soured me on them since then. Wish you well with them. Some people don’t properly clean and lube thier guns. |
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Posted: 12/29/2023 10:13:01 PM EDT
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I really want to try one of these but I can never find a used one at a good price. My LGS has one right now for $600. It’s a consignment gun and it’s been there over a year. I discussed with the owner of the shop that I can buy a new one considerably cheaper online. He shrugged and said he has to ask what the guy wants.
I wonder if they would have “taken off” better back in the day if Beretta used 92 series mags in them? |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2024 6:42:29 PM EDT
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I finally found a deal on a minty used 9mm compact version for $399 out the door. It’s the black/gray version. Love the way it feels.
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Posted: 1/4/2024 7:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Southrnshooter: I really want to try one of these but I can never find a used one at a good price. My LGS has one right now for $600. It's a consignment gun and it's been there over a year. I discussed with the owner of the shop that I can buy a new one considerably cheaper online. He shrugged and said he has to ask what the guy wants. I wonder if they would have "taken off" better back in the day if Beretta used 92 series mags in them? |
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Posted: 1/4/2024 8:03:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rbass: I don't believe that for a second, no more than 2 rounds? PX4's are always reported as being extremely reliable, and run just about anything without failures. Mine has been 100% for years as well as being the most accurate handgun I have. There is more to that story or it is an exaggeration. I did state it was a small sample size. Could have been that couple brought some trash range ammo for that class. |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 3:09:18 PM EDT
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I had a full size that I put the stealth decocker on
Wasn't a bad pistol but once I got my CZ P-09 I didn't shoot it as much as I did before My only gripe about them are the proprietary magazines |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 3:17:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: R0N]
[#28]
It has a weird recoil impulse, needs skate board tape added to remove some of the slipperiness of the grip, but it is very accurate
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Posted: 1/19/2024 6:44:35 PM EDT
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My son is a big fan of the PX4. He has a full size in .40 cal.
I offered to get him a 92, or a Beretta Cheetah, or even a CZ75, but he was adamant he likes his PX4. So I made him a holster for it and called it a day. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2024 11:10:16 PM EDT
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I've said this for years. I've had the Full Size 45acp SD and the compact 9mm for several years. Both are dead reliable. Recoil management is great. Ergos are pretty good if not great. They are fantastic pistols, especially for someone like me who prefers SA/DA's.
The only downside for me is suppressor compatibility. Not saying you cant run a can on a PX4 but i don't try it and i haven't seen anyone who has like it much. All in all i don't ever see myself parting with them. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:12:06 AM EDT
[#31]
Langdon announced a new bull barrel version in 9mm. I cannot tell exactly if this is going to be a factory Beretta gun or an LTT only model. Either way seems pretty rad and also announcing some cool new aftermarket mods as well.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 5:29:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: polishkebasa]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JonnieHammaStix: Langdon announced a new bull barrel version in 9mm. I cannot tell exactly if this is going to be a factory Beretta gun or an LTT only model. Either way seems pretty rad and also announcing some cool new aftermarket mods as well.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzuYTI-8qxoLooks rad , I've been enjoying my full size px4 , I saw a well used compact for 425 and a pawn shop which interested me but I was too much for me although it seems prices are creeping up on these. The comp seems cool, my ideal compensated px4 would be a full size slide with a compact barrel and the comp cut in the slide similar to some of the sig guns. Doubt I will ever see it though Now to decide if it's worth it to get a regular px4 cut when the gsd is coming out |
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USA
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:07:23 AM EDT
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Been selling guns for years, but it took me 12 years to buy a PX4. Loved it when I first got it, very pleasant and low recoil impulse. Strangely enough though after dry firing it a few times the slide gets stuck in battery. I have to take it apart and put the slide back on and it is fine. No binding without the bbl and guide rod assembly. Can't figure it out, it is oiled and has seen a few hundred rounds. Only work is a LTT rmr cut. Anybody, any ideas?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2024 5:14:20 PM EDT
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I really prefer its predecessor…. The 8000 Cougar. I just wished the would have engineered it to us 92/m9 mags…. Although a drimel and few minutes fixes that …. Really nice with the newer 18rd mags.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 5:24:25 PM EDT
[#35]
So I dove headlong into the compact, wanting it to be my G19 or comparable.... One of was sent out to LTT for the red dot and the works.
I just couldn't make them work for me. Sent them on down the road on a trade. My beretta will continue to be a well worn m9a1 compact. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/5/2024 5:49:00 PM EDT
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I got a used .45 auto PX4, love shooting it. I'm debating on whether to look for a 9mm version, but as I already bought 2 9mm pistols, I'm really holding off for now. Maybe if I'm unlucky and find a used one in a gun shop for a good price.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 2/18/2024 9:00:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wandering_minstrel: I got a used .45 auto PX4, love shooting it. I'm debating on whether to look for a 9mm version, but as I already bought 2 9mm pistols, I'm really holding off for now. Maybe if I'm unlucky and find a used one in a gun shop for a good price. I’m considering a .45 PX4 myself. Are you liking it so far? |
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Posted: 2/23/2024 9:54:44 PM EDT
[#38]
I’m a fan. Talon grips and a 12 lb mainspring make a big difference. Knock the ball bearing out of the safety and you have a G model.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/5/2024 1:17:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jiajihu]
[#39]
Make sure clean and lube the barrel locking lug area
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Posted: 4/13/2024 8:51:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: lilMAC25]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZYoungGun: Read and learn, grasshopper: The RIGHT way to deactivate a Beretta slide safety. Now watch: https://youtu.be/krR1hirk_4A?si=lcDV8ZMl58ju_5NP Having owned in excess of two dozen different Beretta pistols with slide safeties and/or decockers, I’m well aware of how the safety works and is designed, as well as how much of the general population is using it wrong lol. But the TRUE answer is the G conversion. You only need a decocker on a DA/SA. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZYoungGun: Originally Posted By Currently: The PX4 I had you had to PUSH UP the safety to fire the pistol. Pulling it down with the thumb ENGAGED the safety. What you wrote does not make any sense to me. If the safety was like a 1911, I’d a kept it. Read and learn, grasshopper: The RIGHT way to deactivate a Beretta slide safety. Now watch: https://youtu.be/krR1hirk_4A?si=lcDV8ZMl58ju_5NP Having owned in excess of two dozen different Beretta pistols with slide safeties and/or decockers, I’m well aware of how the safety works and is designed, as well as how much of the general population is using it wrong lol. But the TRUE answer is the G conversion. You only need a decocker on a DA/SA. Video made hot  The Right Way to Operate a Beretta Manual Safety 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2024 9:43:38 AM EDT
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Damn shame they kicked the Cougar over to Stoeger. Same op system, metal frame. The 8040G was created largely at the request of the PD I worked for then the dept dropped it two years later when they moved towards polymer guns. The 8040 recoil felt more like a 9mm so I imagine the felt recoil reduction is the same with the PX4 line. That said, after recently shooting my dad's 92 series that saw 30 years of service with a nicely broken in trigger, I'm still more likely to buy a 92FS.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2024 3:16:16 PM EDT
[#42]
Prior to buying my CZ 75, I have a 19X, shot it well enough. But I found a used PX4 in .45 that was at a good deal, and even got it better because the gunshop was like, "Yeah, it a meh gun, people dont like it, Ill knock some off for ya."
I think the people that dont like this gun are seriously retarded, sir. There is barely recoil in the hand, even better than a cousin's Springfield 1911. Hell, it shot better than my 19X. Seriously considering finding on in either 9mm or .40 S&W, and seeing about getting it done up. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:38:52 PM EDT
[#43]
I ended up picking up a Px4 Compact in 9mm.
Then had to struggle to find magazines that weren't just 10 rounds. Can't say if I'll ever carry it. Maybe, maybe not. |
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