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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2023 6:55:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7enderbender]
Has anyone heard any updates on a US release of the SFP9CC? I’m looking to replace my version 1 Walther PPS as my carry gun eventually with something with higher capacity. The Sig 365 is nice and my wife has one, but the HK seems like the perfect carry gun based on what’s known so far: smooth grips, paddle mag release, optic cut, 10rd capacity, very small.
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Posted: 10/10/2023 4:04:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: leib109]
[#1]
Hasn’t even been released for LE/Mil customers yet. Or if it has, it’s just barely gotten to them. It probably won’t be until 2025 at the earliest that we see them sold to civilians.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 10:58:10 AM EDT
[#2]
Bump. I'm very interested in this model...
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Posted: 12/7/2023 5:09:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leib109: Hasn't even been released for LE/Mil customers yet. Or if it has, it's just barely gotten to them. It probably won't be until 2025 at the earliest that we see them sold to civilians. Plus, being such a small handgun, it will be more of a chore to import, lessening the incentive to do it unless they setup to make them in the US. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2023 2:07:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SnidelyWhiplash]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Plus, being such a small handgun, it will be more of a chore to import, lessening the incentive to do it unless they setup to make them in the US. I’m not at all knowledgeable about import regulations /rules so I’m curious, what is the issue with size with regard to importing? |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 2:28:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnidelyWhiplash: I'm not at all knowledgeable about import regulations /rules so I'm curious, what is the issue with size with regard to importing? There's a bunch of other criteria, this form lays it out: https://www.atf.gov/file/61591/download |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2023 2:50:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Imported pistols have to achieve 75 points on the ATF's criteria system to qualify for import. Things like barrel length and overall weight play a part in the metrics, basically the smaller and lighter a pistol is, the harder it is to import. There's a bunch of other criteria, this form lays it out: https://www.atf.gov/file/61591/download Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By SnidelyWhiplash: I'm not at all knowledgeable about import regulations /rules so I'm curious, what is the issue with size with regard to importing? There's a bunch of other criteria, this form lays it out: https://www.atf.gov/file/61591/download Very informative! Thank you for taking the time to post this. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 3:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnidelyWhiplash: Very informative! Thank you for taking the time to post this. Like with Glocks, the compact and subcompact models started the serrated trigger, so they got points calling the a "target" trigger. They also import with cheap semi-disposible adjustable rear sights to get those points, and are changed to the fixed rear in the US before they go to distribution. I think the subcompacts like the 26 might even come in with longer barrel installed, that then are swapped out stateside and the long ones get shipped back to be reused for import. There's all sorts of little things some manufacturers do to get those points. |
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Posted: 12/26/2023 9:32:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: There's all sorts of little things some manufacturers do to get those points. I've read that's why the "thumb rest" was added, to add import points for the G26/G27. https://blog.talongungrips.com/talon/how-to-identify-your-glocks-generation/  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:58:43 AM EDT
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I wonder if Shot Show will get us any more info on these….
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Posted: 1/22/2024 4:56:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: No worries, it's not a commonly known thing. And a lot of companies that do import small handguns play some interesting games to make those points. Like with Glocks, the compact and subcompact models started the serrated trigger, so they got points calling the a "target" trigger. They also import with cheap semi-disposible adjustable rear sights to get those points, and are changed to the fixed rear in the US before they go to distribution. I think the subcompacts like the 26 might even come in with longer barrel installed, that then are swapped out stateside and the long ones get shipped back to be reused for import. There's all sorts of little things some manufacturers do to get those points. I remember someone posted a photo on here a while ago of the “target” sights that were disposable. If HK wanted to get it here they could. |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 11:09:28 PM EDT
[#11]
HK has said nothing about the micro. Its not even at shot show. I wonder what is happening with it.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2024 10:35:16 AM EDT
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Nothing from the HK booth, according to them the pistol isn't available to the LE/Mil market yet. No time frame known or stated. Then the import issues and no info known and highly unlikely that production would be stateside
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Posted: 2/23/2024 10:37:51 PM EDT
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Came here looking for updates on a possible replacement for my PPS M2, as well.
Seems to be even less into today than back in 2022/2023. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/24/2024 9:09:21 PM EDT
[#14]
Still nothing it seems.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 2:15:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2024 2:18:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stiglitz_actual]
[#16]
It's only slated to start going out to Euro customers for testing this year, unlikely to be in the US for a while if at all due to stupid import restrictions
HK USA is too busy shitposting about tHe pOoRs on instagram to do anything useful Couple versions on display at EnforceTac '24  
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NV, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:08:21 AM EDT
[#17]
Uses 10rd flush / 12rd extended mags.
Also modular Chasis system: 
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Posted: 2/29/2024 9:44:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Uses 10rd flush / 12rd extended mags. Also modular Chasis system: https://milmag.pl/2021/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/004-24.jpg HK has a way of consistently having magazines that are 2 rounds short of current industry standards. Maybe 5-7 years down the road they'll have 12 round flush magazines. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 10:10:12 PM EDT
[#19]
That optic cut looks crazy.
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Posted: 3/2/2024 9:31:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LV1976: HK has a way of consistently having magazines that are 2 rounds short of current industry standards. Maybe 5-7 years down the road they'll have 12 round flush magazines. HK and surefire. 2 peas in a pod. Always behind. Granted. Glock is even further behind HK and Surefire in regards to being up to date. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2024 8:57:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Why is this taking so long?
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Posted: 3/12/2024 9:38:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnfromHR: Why is this taking so long? HK and Glock have a lot in common. Day late and a dollar short. |
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Posted: 3/13/2024 2:25:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LV1976: HK has a way of consistently having magazines that are 2 rounds short of current industry standards. Maybe 5-7 years down the road they'll have 12 round flush magazines. They did it for reliability. Consistent reliability. |
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Posted: 3/13/2024 3:35:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnfromHR: Why is this taking so long? |
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Posted: 3/13/2024 3:42:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnfromHR: Why is this taking so long? So far, the only press on this thing has been at European arms shows geared toward LEO and MIL sales, and their own literature implied it was only for the LEO market. |
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Posted: 3/13/2024 5:09:36 PM EDT
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I talked to an Hk rep in February. He said that we will get them. He just said "soon"... He said that he has fired one and loves it. Would not give me any more info.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 7:29:10 PM EDT
[#27]
Just bumping this up for any little morsels of information. I know it could be a month or a year (or more), but I want one!
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:43:48 AM EDT
[#28]
We'll be lucky if it shows up on our shores at the end of the year.
Doubtful. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:58:45 PM EDT
[#29]
I’ve held out about as long as I’m willing to. I’ve not had trouble with my P365 and was going to pass to my wife as an alternative to her VP9sk and try the HK. May have tried two new HKs. I think I’m just going to buy another P365 and call it a day.
As far as HK goes it’s a double edge sword. I appreciate not being a beta tester, however how long does it take to test? Arfcom would have it done in a Sat mourning. Stack up tons of different ammo and let everyone go to town. Freeze them heat them rain on them. I don’t think HK hates us I simply don’t think they care. That may not be true of HK USA, but I’d have a hard time being convinced of HK Germany not feeling that way. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 4:22:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Master_Blaster]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ivan1: They did it for reliability. Consistent reliability. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ivan1: Originally Posted By LV1976: HK has a way of consistently having magazines that are 2 rounds short of current industry standards. Maybe 5-7 years down the road they'll have 12 round flush magazines. They did it for reliability. Consistent reliability. Do they have an idiot-proof feature to prevent loading cartridges backwards into the mags? Asking for an unknown HK brochure photographer. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 6:08:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mc556: I’ve held out about as long as I’m willing to. I’ve not had trouble with my P365 and was going to pass to my wife as an alternative to her VP9sk and try the HK. May have tried two new HKs. I think I’m just going to buy another P365 and call it a day. As far as HK goes it’s a double edge sword. I appreciate not being a beta tester, however how long does it take to test? Arfcom would have it done in a Sat mourning. Stack up tons of different ammo and let everyone go to town. Freeze them heat them rain on them. I don’t think HK hates us I simply don’t think they care. That may not be true of HK USA, but I’d have a hard time being convinced of HK Germany not feeling that way. I don't think the Germans can even conceptualize the number of people who own and shoot guns, and especially that concealed carry guns, in the US. Their minds can't even process it. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:21:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762: I don't think the Germans can even conceptualize the number of people who own and shoot guns, and especially that concealed carry guns, in the US. Their minds can't even process it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762: Originally Posted By mc556: I’ve held out about as long as I’m willing to. I’ve not had trouble with my P365 and was going to pass to my wife as an alternative to her VP9sk and try the HK. May have tried two new HKs. I think I’m just going to buy another P365 and call it a day. As far as HK goes it’s a double edge sword. I appreciate not being a beta tester, however how long does it take to test? Arfcom would have it done in a Sat mourning. Stack up tons of different ammo and let everyone go to town. Freeze them heat them rain on them. I don’t think HK hates us I simply don’t think they care. That may not be true of HK USA, but I’d have a hard time being convinced of HK Germany not feeling that way. I don't think the Germans can even conceptualize the number of people who own and shoot guns, and especially that concealed carry guns, in the US. Their minds can't even process it. I tend to agree. |
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