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Posted: 2/20/2024 6:30:42 PM EDT
I got the kit for my mountain gun. Even after stoning the internals it was still a bit heavy. I'm going to shoot tomorrow. Hopefully I don't get any ftf with the new mainspring because it's pretty nice now.
I put the 14lbs return spring in as well. I already put in an extended firing pin because of some ftf earlier. |
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Posted: 2/20/2024 9:13:10 PM EDT
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My 624 and my 625-8 JM both have Wilson spring kits. The 624 has had some trigger work by Smith and with the spring kit it’s smooth like butter. I have zero problems setting off primers. I put the 625 kit in last week and haven’t taken it to the range yet. Trigger is MUCH better. Ive stuck with the 14 lb return spring on both.
I’ve put 14lb Wolff trigger return springs in a couple of J frames to great effect as well. Didn’t want to mess with the hammer spring on those for reliability concerns. I think you’ll be happy. |
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Posted: 2/20/2024 10:59:08 PM EDT
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I've got a Wilson spring kit (with the 14lb rebound spring) along with an Apex Evo bobbed hammer, extended firing pin, and power custom trigger in my 686. I also polished all of the contact points. Trigger pull is extremely smooth with minimal stacking...no failures with a variety of different brands of ammo.
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Posted: 2/21/2024 5:05:31 PM EDT
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Worked good except one light primer strike. Even after repeated single and double action tries.
I wasn't happy the last few months with my DA shooting. I definitely feel better now and am looking forward to this year's competitions with it. DA at 25 yards  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 5:20:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Worked good except one light primer strike. Even after repeated single and double action tries. I wasn't happy the last few months with my DA shooting. I definitely feel better now and am looking forward to this year's competitions with it. DA at 25 yards https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/1000000414_jpg-3136689.JPG Just give the spring a little bend in the positive direction and I bet youll be good |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 9:23:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45: Just give the spring a little bend in the positive direction and I bet youll be good Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45: Originally Posted By 03RN: Worked good except one light primer strike. Even after repeated single and double action tries. I wasn't happy the last few months with my DA shooting. I definitely feel better now and am looking forward to this year's competitions with it. DA at 25 yards https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/1000000414_jpg-3136689.JPG Just give the spring a little bend in the positive direction and I bet youll be good I think that one guy was a primer issue. It wasn't going off SA and looked like it was struck hard |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 7:23:18 PM EDT
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Ugh, had a few more light strikes. Back to the oem spring for now.
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Posted: 3/5/2024 7:34:43 PM EDT
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Strain screw is tight - correct?
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Posted: 3/5/2024 8:02:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Ugh, had a few more light strikes. Back to the oem spring for now. Did you leave the rebound spring? |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 12:25:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Couch-Commando]
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I have been told by the local revolver gunsmith who services most of the local ICORE shooters that the Wilson mainspring is too light unless using Federal primers. I personally had one failure in 100 with CCI. That is, until a particularly bad batch of reloads, where my failure rate went to 50%, and the stock spring made no difference. Still need to finish pulling those bullets.
 ETA: I tried to go below 13 pounds on the rebound spring, but that didn't work. From what I was told, you need an order of magnitude better polish in your action to achieve a light trigger pull with an 11 pound rebound spring that doesn't stick. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 3:11:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Ugh, had a few more light strikes. Back to the oem spring for now. This is the perfect chance to manipulate the wilson spring and play around with bending it. Add some tension and set it aside for next range day Those usually have a dramatic bend at the top of the spring vs oem |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 5:17:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Couch-Commando: I have been told by the local revolver gunsmith who services most of the local ICORE shooters that the Wilson mainspring is too light unless using Federal primers. I personally had one failure in 100 with CCI. That is, until a particularly bad batch of reloads, where my failure rate went to 50%, and the stock spring made no difference. Still need to finish pulling those bullets. ETA: I tried to go below 13 pounds on the rebound spring, but that didn't work. From what I was told, you need an order of magnitude better polish in your action to achieve a light trigger pull with an 11 pound rebound spring that doesn't stick. I was "perfect" on my previous outing with my 625 but last night I had two out of 50 not light. Mixed brass with Winchester LPP. The primer indent was shallow on the two and even hitting them again single action didn't light them. I've got a power custom longer firing ping coming and I think I'm going back to the factory mainspring. Leaving the 14lb rebound spring in. These were mixed brass reloads with EZ moon clips if that matters. Interestingly enough my 624 with a Wilson kit never has missed a beat. It's an older "pre MIM, pre lock" so the firing pin is on the hammer. Wonder if that makes a difference? |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 5:37:32 PM EDT
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I have only used Wolf springs in handguns.
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Posted: 3/9/2024 1:41:55 PM EDT
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Installed a Power Custom extended firing pin and put the factory hammer spring back in the 625-8 today. I left the 14lb rebound spring in. Hardly a change on the trigger pull and I can visibly see a difference of firing pin protrusion with the hammer down. I did clear some “crap” out of the pin channel. Could have been the issue the whole time……
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Posted: 3/13/2024 10:59:54 PM EDT
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I used a full power Wolff rib main and a 13 pound rebound spring.
It still makes weight for NRA comp and had about an 8 pound DA pull. It does however, have an action smoothed by thousands upon thousands of rounds. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:32:36 AM EDT
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I tried taking some aluminum from a can and Slide it in the notch at the butt in-between the spring and the frame. Just to change the angle a tiny bit. So far so good.
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Posted: 3/21/2024 3:21:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: I tried taking some aluminum from a can and Slide it in the notch at the butt in-between the spring and the frame. Just to change the angle a tiny bit. So far so good. That would work. It's akin to the old school spent primer trick. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:50:00 PM EDT
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Nope
Way to many light strikes even after the shim  Bearcamp 4/14 stage 4 |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 5:52:15 PM EDT
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That’s unfortunate. I bet if you bump back to the factory hammer spring you’ll be good. I’ve had good luck with the full Wilson kit in my 624, but my 625 needed the factory hammer spring.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:50:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Nope Way to many light strikes even after the shim  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI8PIqd5iagGive her a little positive bend my friend Also is this IDPA? Ive been wanting to try my hand again but its been so long |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:59:40 PM EDT
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Maybe try an Apex extended firing pin and reduced power firing pin spring? I've got them in both of my 686s that also have wilson spring kits and I've never had an issue with light strikes.
"The combination of the Firing Pin and the Reduced Power Firing Pin Return Spring is designed specifically to reduce the probability of light strikes, particularly in revolvers with high-performance trigger action work." |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:13:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45: Give her a little positive bend my friend Also is this IDPA? Ive been wanting to try my hand again but its been so long Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45: Originally Posted By 03RN: Nope Way to many light strikes even after the shim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI8PIqd5iagGive her a little positive bend my friend Also is this IDPA? Ive been wanting to try my hand again but its been so long I really hate bending springs. I might try it in another gun with a rough trigger It's a local outlaw match. It's pretty low key but there are a couple guys who are uspsa m and GM. I'm the only one shooting revolvers but typically place in the middle of the pack. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:14:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJR576: Maybe try an Apex extended firing pin and reduced power firing pin spring? I've got them in both of my 686s that also have wilson spring kits and I've never had an issue with light strikes. "The combination of the Firing Pin and the Reduced Power Firing Pin Return Spring is designed specifically to reduce the probability of light strikes, particularly in revolvers with high-performance trigger action work." It already has an extended firing pin |
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