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Posted: 1/3/2024 7:20:39 PM EDT
Is there such thing? We try to conserve but got damn the bill just climbs!
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Posted: 1/3/2024 7:46:46 PM EDT
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Depends on where you live. We stopped using them for heat a couple years ago. Firewood is far cheaper than the gas and electric to run our furnace. Between that and space heaters we haven’t noticed a difference comfort wise and our gas bill has dropped significantly in the winter. We aren’t solely tied to PG&E though, only for gas. SMUD is our electricity provider.
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Posted: 1/3/2024 7:52:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajcrash: Depends on where you live. We stopped using them for heat a couple years ago. Firewood is far cheaper than the gas and electric to run our furnace. Between that and space heaters we haven’t noticed a difference comfort wise and our gas bill has dropped significantly in the winter. We aren’t solely tied to PG&E though, only for gas. SMUD is our electricity provider. Yup, a couple of space heaters are my next purchase. |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 8:01:53 PM EDT
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We have a fairly good sized 2 story with vaulted ceilings and it’s been a non issue even without a fire in the wood stove.
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Posted: 1/9/2024 1:26:54 AM EDT
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Where in PG&E are you? You can always sign a power purchase agreement, you still get billed from PG&E, but you buy power direct and pay PG&E to wheel it to you. It can save you decent amount of cash in some cases. Otherwise go solar.
Btw, I know PG&E gets a lot of hate, but they are litterally the cheapest of the big 3 in CA, both SDG&E and SCE make PG&E look cheap. |
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Posted: 1/9/2024 3:02:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajcrash: We have a fairly good sized 2 story with vaulted ceilings and it’s been a non issue even without a fire in the wood stove. OK, so how do you heat your home? |
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Posted: 1/9/2024 3:05:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorCalRT: Where in PG&E are you? You can always sign a power purchase agreement, you still get billed from PG&E, but you buy power direct and pay PG&E to wheel it to you. It can save you decent amount of cash in some cases. Otherwise go solar. Btw, I know PG&E gets a lot of hate, but they are litterally the cheapest of the big 3 in CA, both SDG&E and SCE make PG&E look cheap. We are in the northern part of the SF Bay Area. I say northern some say east bay. It's the natural gas that drives the rate up. The gas fireplace, stove, water heater and furnace. The electrical is less than 100 a month, it's the damn gas! I almost had solar installed, had it city approved and ready for install but in the end it wouldn't save me anything. |
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Posted: 1/9/2024 9:22:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: OK, so how do you heat your home? ‘This winter has been all space heater. Last winter was a mix of wood stove and space heater. Trying to see what the difference is price wise. I can get a cord of hardwood (oak mostly) for around $350 that will last me at least 2 seasons. My highest electric bill last winter was about $200 (I have a blower on my wood stove, so that sucks juice also). This winter running nothing but space heaters my highest bill has been $250. So far I'm of the opinion that space heaters alone is the cheapest. Fires are nice for the ambiance, but economically space heaters has been the best for me. |
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Posted: 1/10/2024 11:15:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajcrash: ‘This winter has been all space heater. Last winter was a mix of wood stove and space heater. Trying to see what the difference is price wise. I can get a cord of hardwood (oak mostly) for around $350 that will last me at least 2 seasons. My highest electric bill last winter was about $200 (I have a blower on my wood stove, so that sucks juice also). This winter running nothing but space heaters my highest bill has been $250. So far I'm of the opinion that space heaters alone is the cheapest. Fires are nice for the ambiance, but economically space heaters has been the best for me. Well that settles it. I'll be purchasing a couple of space heaters. Thanks for the reply. |
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Posted: 1/10/2024 1:23:59 PM EDT
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We get the oscillating type to push the heat around. I think the wife gets them at kohls or amazon. We run 3 inside and one in the garage when we’re out there having beers. So far in 2 winters we’ve only had one outright die on us. So be prepared to replace as needed. They typically run between $50-$100+ each.
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Posted: 1/11/2024 1:03:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajcrash: ‘This winter has been all space heater. Last winter was a mix of wood stove and space heater. Trying to see what the difference is price wise. I can get a cord of hardwood (oak mostly) for around $350 that will last me at least 2 seasons. My highest electric bill last winter was about $200 (I have a blower on my wood stove, so that sucks juice also). This winter running nothing but space heaters my highest bill has been $250. So far I'm of the opinion that space heaters alone is the cheapest. Fires are nice for the ambiance, but economically space heaters has been the best for me. You're lucky. I just got my highest bill ever. $408. We keep the thermostat set to 68. $165 just in "delivery fees". At this rate I might start bringing pallets home from work to burn in the fireplace and heat the house 
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:56:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajcrash: We get the oscillating type to push the heat around. I think the wife gets them at kohls or amazon. We run 3 inside and one in the garage when we’re out there having beers. So far in 2 winters we’ve only had one outright die on us. So be prepared to replace as needed. They typically run between $50-$100+ each. Noted, thank you. I'm looking at one that sits in front of the fireplace that has a fake fire. How ironic. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:57:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Blue-: You're lucky. I just got my highest bill ever. $408. We keep the thermostat set to 68. $165 just in "delivery fees". At this rate I might start bringing pallets home from work to burn in the fireplace and heat the house Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Blue-: Originally Posted By Ajcrash: ‘This winter has been all space heater. Last winter was a mix of wood stove and space heater. Trying to see what the difference is price wise. I can get a cord of hardwood (oak mostly) for around $350 that will last me at least 2 seasons. My highest electric bill last winter was about $200 (I have a blower on my wood stove, so that sucks juice also). This winter running nothing but space heaters my highest bill has been $250. So far I'm of the opinion that space heaters alone is the cheapest. Fires are nice for the ambiance, but economically space heaters has been the best for me. You're lucky. I just got my highest bill ever. $408. We keep the thermostat set to 68. $165 just in "delivery fees". At this rate I might start bringing pallets home from work to burn in the fireplace and heat the house Thanks for reminding me. I need to call PG&E and ask WTF is a 'delivery fee'! |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 3:07:38 PM EDT
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Probably the pipe. Lol I used to work on gas pipeline mostly for pg&e as a sub. If you saw the waste you’d be pissed. Someone has to pay for the San Bruno pipeline explosion and all the fires their outdated equipment caused. The customers are the lucky bunch to do so.
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:31:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajcrash: Probably the pipe. Lol I used to work on gas pipeline mostly for pg&e as a sub. If you saw the waste you’d be pissed. Someone has to pay for the San Bruno pipeline explosion and all the fires their outdated equipment caused. The customers are the lucky bunch to do so. 
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Posted: 1/12/2024 8:10:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: We are in the northern part of the SF Bay Area. I say northern some say east bay. It's the natural gas that drives the rate up. The gas fireplace, stove, water heater and furnace. The electrical is less than 100 a month, it's the damn gas! I almost had solar installed, had it city approved and ready for install but in the end it wouldn't save me anything. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Koa: Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Where in PG&E are you? You can always sign a power purchase agreement, you still get billed from PG&E, but you buy power direct and pay PG&E to wheel it to you. It can save you decent amount of cash in some cases. Otherwise go solar. Btw, I know PG&E gets a lot of hate, but they are litterally the cheapest of the big 3 in CA, both SDG&E and SCE make PG&E look cheap. We are in the northern part of the SF Bay Area. I say northern some say east bay. It's the natural gas that drives the rate up. The gas fireplace, stove, water heater and furnace. The electrical is less than 100 a month, it's the damn gas! I almost had solar installed, had it city approved and ready for install but in the end it wouldn't save me anything. I just installed electric radiant heaters in the garage which I wish I would have done sooner. Both the kids rooms and our office also have space heaters, you can drop the NG heater down a few degrees and use space heaters for zone heating, it works and saves you cash. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 3:02:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorCalRT: I just installed electric radiant heaters in the garage which I wish I would have done sooner. Both the kids rooms and our office also have space heaters, you can drop the NG heater down a few degrees and use space heaters for zone heating, it works and saves you cash. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorCalRT: Originally Posted By Koa: Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Where in PG&E are you? You can always sign a power purchase agreement, you still get billed from PG&E, but you buy power direct and pay PG&E to wheel it to you. It can save you decent amount of cash in some cases. Otherwise go solar. Btw, I know PG&E gets a lot of hate, but they are litterally the cheapest of the big 3 in CA, both SDG&E and SCE make PG&E look cheap. We are in the northern part of the SF Bay Area. I say northern some say east bay. It's the natural gas that drives the rate up. The gas fireplace, stove, water heater and furnace. The electrical is less than 100 a month, it's the damn gas! I almost had solar installed, had it city approved and ready for install but in the end it wouldn't save me anything. I just installed electric radiant heaters in the garage which I wish I would have done sooner. Both the kids rooms and our office also have space heaters, you can drop the NG heater down a few degrees and use space heaters for zone heating, it works and saves you cash. That's the plan. Thank you for your input. |
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