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Posted: 1/3/2024 7:20:39 PM EDT
Is there such thing? We try to conserve but got damn the bill just climbs!
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I teach my daughters to shoot because a restraining order is just a piece of paper.
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Depends on where you live. We stopped using them for heat a couple years ago. Firewood is far cheaper than the gas and electric to run our furnace. Between that and space heaters we haven’t noticed a difference comfort wise and our gas bill has dropped significantly in the winter. We aren’t solely tied to PG&E though, only for gas. SMUD is our electricity provider.
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Originally Posted By Ajcrash: Depends on where you live. We stopped using them for heat a couple years ago. Firewood is far cheaper than the gas and electric to run our furnace. Between that and space heaters we haven’t noticed a difference comfort wise and our gas bill has dropped significantly in the winter. We aren’t solely tied to PG&E though, only for gas. SMUD is our electricity provider. View Quote Yup, a couple of space heaters are my next purchase. |
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I teach my daughters to shoot because a restraining order is just a piece of paper.
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We have a fairly good sized 2 story with vaulted ceilings and it’s been a non issue even without a fire in the wood stove.
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Where in PG&E are you? You can always sign a power purchase agreement, you still get billed from PG&E, but you buy power direct and pay PG&E to wheel it to you. It can save you decent amount of cash in some cases. Otherwise go solar.
Btw, I know PG&E gets a lot of hate, but they are litterally the cheapest of the big 3 in CA, both SDG&E and SCE make PG&E look cheap. |
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I teach my daughters to shoot because a restraining order is just a piece of paper.
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Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Where in PG&E are you? You can always sign a power purchase agreement, you still get billed from PG&E, but you buy power direct and pay PG&E to wheel it to you. It can save you decent amount of cash in some cases. Otherwise go solar. Btw, I know PG&E gets a lot of hate, but they are litterally the cheapest of the big 3 in CA, both SDG&E and SCE make PG&E look cheap. View Quote We are in the northern part of the SF Bay Area. I say northern some say east bay. It's the natural gas that drives the rate up. The gas fireplace, stove, water heater and furnace. The electrical is less than 100 a month, it's the damn gas! I almost had solar installed, had it city approved and ready for install but in the end it wouldn't save me anything. |
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I teach my daughters to shoot because a restraining order is just a piece of paper.
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Originally Posted By Koa: OK, so how do you heat your home? View Quote ‘This winter has been all space heater. Last winter was a mix of wood stove and space heater. Trying to see what the difference is price wise. I can get a cord of hardwood (oak mostly) for around $350 that will last me at least 2 seasons. My highest electric bill last winter was about $200 (I have a blower on my wood stove, so that sucks juice also). This winter running nothing but space heaters my highest bill has been $250. So far I'm of the opinion that space heaters alone is the cheapest. Fires are nice for the ambiance, but economically space heaters has been the best for me. |
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Originally Posted By Ajcrash: ‘This winter has been all space heater. Last winter was a mix of wood stove and space heater. Trying to see what the difference is price wise. I can get a cord of hardwood (oak mostly) for around $350 that will last me at least 2 seasons. My highest electric bill last winter was about $200 (I have a blower on my wood stove, so that sucks juice also). This winter running nothing but space heaters my highest bill has been $250. So far I'm of the opinion that space heaters alone is the cheapest. Fires are nice for the ambiance, but economically space heaters has been the best for me. View Quote Well that settles it. I'll be purchasing a couple of space heaters. Thanks for the reply. |
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I teach my daughters to shoot because a restraining order is just a piece of paper.
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We get the oscillating type to push the heat around. I think the wife gets them at kohls or amazon. We run 3 inside and one in the garage when we’re out there having beers. So far in 2 winters we’ve only had one outright die on us. So be prepared to replace as needed. They typically run between $50-$100+ each.
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Originally Posted By Ajcrash: ‘This winter has been all space heater. Last winter was a mix of wood stove and space heater. Trying to see what the difference is price wise. I can get a cord of hardwood (oak mostly) for around $350 that will last me at least 2 seasons. My highest electric bill last winter was about $200 (I have a blower on my wood stove, so that sucks juice also). This winter running nothing but space heaters my highest bill has been $250. So far I'm of the opinion that space heaters alone is the cheapest. Fires are nice for the ambiance, but economically space heaters has been the best for me. View Quote You're lucky. I just got my highest bill ever. $408. We keep the thermostat set to 68. $165 just in "delivery fees". At this rate I might start bringing pallets home from work to burn in the fireplace and heat the house |
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Watching the kids shoot Pieeater's 1919 was great. Nothing warms the heart more than seeing a little kid kneeling in a pile of brass and links.-Pthfndr after the Nov 13th NorCal shoot
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Originally Posted By Ajcrash: We get the oscillating type to push the heat around. I think the wife gets them at kohls or amazon. We run 3 inside and one in the garage when we’re out there having beers. So far in 2 winters we’ve only had one outright die on us. So be prepared to replace as needed. They typically run between $50-$100+ each. View Quote Noted, thank you. I'm looking at one that sits in front of the fireplace that has a fake fire. How ironic. |
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I teach my daughters to shoot because a restraining order is just a piece of paper.
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Originally Posted By -Blue-: You're lucky. I just got my highest bill ever. $408. We keep the thermostat set to 68. $165 just in "delivery fees". At this rate I might start bringing pallets home from work to burn in the fireplace and heat the house View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By -Blue-: Originally Posted By Ajcrash: ‘This winter has been all space heater. Last winter was a mix of wood stove and space heater. Trying to see what the difference is price wise. I can get a cord of hardwood (oak mostly) for around $350 that will last me at least 2 seasons. My highest electric bill last winter was about $200 (I have a blower on my wood stove, so that sucks juice also). This winter running nothing but space heaters my highest bill has been $250. So far I'm of the opinion that space heaters alone is the cheapest. Fires are nice for the ambiance, but economically space heaters has been the best for me. You're lucky. I just got my highest bill ever. $408. We keep the thermostat set to 68. $165 just in "delivery fees". At this rate I might start bringing pallets home from work to burn in the fireplace and heat the house Thanks for reminding me. I need to call PG&E and ask WTF is a 'delivery fee'! |
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I teach my daughters to shoot because a restraining order is just a piece of paper.
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Probably the pipe. Lol I used to work on gas pipeline mostly for pg&e as a sub. If you saw the waste you’d be pissed. Someone has to pay for the San Bruno pipeline explosion and all the fires their outdated equipment caused. The customers are the lucky bunch to do so.
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Originally Posted By Ajcrash: Probably the pipe. Lol I used to work on gas pipeline mostly for pg&e as a sub. If you saw the waste you’d be pissed. Someone has to pay for the San Bruno pipeline explosion and all the fires their outdated equipment caused. The customers are the lucky bunch to do so. View Quote |
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I teach my daughters to shoot because a restraining order is just a piece of paper.
Author: unknown |
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Originally Posted By Koa: We are in the northern part of the SF Bay Area. I say northern some say east bay. It's the natural gas that drives the rate up. The gas fireplace, stove, water heater and furnace. The electrical is less than 100 a month, it's the damn gas! I almost had solar installed, had it city approved and ready for install but in the end it wouldn't save me anything. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Koa: Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Where in PG&E are you? You can always sign a power purchase agreement, you still get billed from PG&E, but you buy power direct and pay PG&E to wheel it to you. It can save you decent amount of cash in some cases. Otherwise go solar. Btw, I know PG&E gets a lot of hate, but they are litterally the cheapest of the big 3 in CA, both SDG&E and SCE make PG&E look cheap. We are in the northern part of the SF Bay Area. I say northern some say east bay. It's the natural gas that drives the rate up. The gas fireplace, stove, water heater and furnace. The electrical is less than 100 a month, it's the damn gas! I almost had solar installed, had it city approved and ready for install but in the end it wouldn't save me anything. I just installed electric radiant heaters in the garage which I wish I would have done sooner. Both the kids rooms and our office also have space heaters, you can drop the NG heater down a few degrees and use space heaters for zone heating, it works and saves you cash. |
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Originally Posted By NorCalRT: I just installed electric radiant heaters in the garage which I wish I would have done sooner. Both the kids rooms and our office also have space heaters, you can drop the NG heater down a few degrees and use space heaters for zone heating, it works and saves you cash. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Originally Posted By Koa: Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Where in PG&E are you? You can always sign a power purchase agreement, you still get billed from PG&E, but you buy power direct and pay PG&E to wheel it to you. It can save you decent amount of cash in some cases. Otherwise go solar. Btw, I know PG&E gets a lot of hate, but they are litterally the cheapest of the big 3 in CA, both SDG&E and SCE make PG&E look cheap. We are in the northern part of the SF Bay Area. I say northern some say east bay. It's the natural gas that drives the rate up. The gas fireplace, stove, water heater and furnace. The electrical is less than 100 a month, it's the damn gas! I almost had solar installed, had it city approved and ready for install but in the end it wouldn't save me anything. I just installed electric radiant heaters in the garage which I wish I would have done sooner. Both the kids rooms and our office also have space heaters, you can drop the NG heater down a few degrees and use space heaters for zone heating, it works and saves you cash. That's the plan. Thank you for your input. |
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I teach my daughters to shoot because a restraining order is just a piece of paper.
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