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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:29:53 PM EDT
So now that NYC basically has to give carry permits, and can't demand a "proper cause," why not get your county permit authorized for NYC?
Cost is $340 plus fingerprints...maybe a couple fun trips to 1 police plaza...but why not? Wondering if they will make you do the stupid training? Even if you already have a county permit and are just looking to get it stamped for NYC? They shouldn't be but who knows? |
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And do what, exactly? Park my car in an overpriced lot to carry on some sidewalks and not enter any buildings? Even if I wanted to go to NYC there is a cop every 20 feet in the tourist areas... I'd be much more worried about getting jammed up by NYPD over legal carry than an encounter with a thug.
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Originally Posted By GTwannabe: And do what, exactly? Park my car in an overpriced lot to carry on some sidewalks and not enter any buildings? Even if I wanted to go to NYC there is a cop every 20 feet in the tourist areas... I'd be much more worried about getting jammed up by NYPD over legal carry than an encounter with a thug. View Quote Why wouldn't you enter any buildings? |
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Originally Posted By tc556guy: He's pointing out that the CCIA essentially made the entire city a sensitive area View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By DaveM4P99: Why wouldn't you enter any buildings? He's pointing out that the CCIA essentially made the entire city a sensitive area Not anymore though right? The private property ban was lifted. And nobody is posting those stupid no gun signs that I have seen. |
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Originally Posted By tc556guy: Maybe I missed where that change happened. I cant imagine Houchel allowing that change without vaporlocking View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By DaveM4P99: Not anymore though right? The private property ban was lifted. And nobody is posting those stupid no gun signs that I have seen. Maybe I missed where that change happened. I cant imagine Houchel allowing that change without vaporlocking The 2nd circuits recent decision said that NY couldn't just ban carry in ALL private properties, and only allow carry if a "guns allowed" sign was posted. They declared that a no go. |
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Originally Posted By DaveM4P99: The 2nd circuits recent decision said that NY couldn't just ban carry in ALL private properties, and only allow carry if a "guns allowed" sign was posted. They declared that a no go. View Quote Carry is still banned on the train, subway, and buses in addition to any venue a tourist might wish to visit in NYC. |
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Originally Posted By GTwannabe: Carry is still banned on the train, subway, and buses in addition to any venue a tourist might wish to visit in NYC. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GTwannabe: Originally Posted By DaveM4P99: The 2nd circuits recent decision said that NY couldn't just ban carry in ALL private properties, and only allow carry if a "guns allowed" sign was posted. They declared that a no go. Carry is still banned on the train, subway, and buses in addition to any venue a tourist might wish to visit in NYC. Not really...just times square. Which is awful anyway. Subways? Busses? Nobody uses those unless you really have to. I just want to get a NYC carry permit and stick it to them by carrying in public. |
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Originally Posted By DaveM4P99: The 2nd circuits recent decision said that NY couldn't just ban carry in ALL private properties, and only allow carry if a "guns allowed" sign was posted. They declared that a no go. View Quote Wait! What? We can legally carry like before the hochal bs? Misspelled intentionally, because you know.... |
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Originally Posted By DancingBear: Wait! What? We can legally carry like before the hochal bs? Misspelled intentionally, because you know.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DancingBear: Originally Posted By DaveM4P99: The 2nd circuits recent decision said that NY couldn't just ban carry in ALL private properties, and only allow carry if a "guns allowed" sign was posted. They declared that a no go. Wait! What? We can legally carry like before the hochal bs? Misspelled intentionally, because you know.... Lol guys...the 2nd circuit even said NY can't do a defacto ban on carry for private businesses. So the "you can only carry if a guns allowed sign is shown" is unconstitutional. But if the place has a no gun sign, you can't carry. As if anyone will pay attention to that anyway. There is still the long list of sensitive places that are restricted. Some got tossed but for the most part that remains. We / GOA appealed this entire 2nd circuit decision to SCOTUS even though we kinda won...we want to get rid of the sensitive/restricted places and all the other CCIA restrictions like training and good moral character etc. Scotus is hopefully going to decide on "good moral character" (which is just as arbitrary as proper cause)...AND whether 2nd amendment historical analysis should be done with 1790s in mind, or 1860s... obviously we want 1790s and that's what Thomas already spelled out...but here we are. And if it's 1790s...there goes the rest of the CCIA and NYS AWB laws. |
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Concealed means concealed.
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Originally Posted By LamePostCount: Concealed means concealed. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Aardvark: Unfortunately some of the newer tech (well unfortunately for those who are otherwise law abiding and know the restrictions are unconstitutional) can passively detect people carrying weapons. Millimeter wave scanners can print a concealed weapon. I believe they were testing it in the NYC subway years ago just before COVID. We are getting ever closer to the weapons detector in the movie "Total Recall". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Aardvark: Originally Posted By LamePostCount: Concealed means concealed. I'm so glad I live in a free state. I get that it's your home but wow. I actually have a young family member who took a job upstate out of school, and I refuse to set foot in NY. Some other family members went to visit a while back and did a side trip through NYC and said upstate is fine, but they have no desire to go back to NYC. |
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Originally Posted By Aardvark: Unfortunately some of the newer tech (well unfortunately for those who are otherwise law abiding and know the restrictions are unconstitutional) can passively detect people carrying weapons. Millimeter wave scanners can print a concealed weapon. I believe they were testing it in the NYC subway years ago just before COVID. We are getting ever closer to the weapons detector in the movie "Total Recall". View Quote I think NYPD was also playing around with concealed mm wave scanners in panel trucks and vans to scan people walking down the sidewalk. |
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NYC is on my list of places I won’t go, and could care less to go. It’s right up there with North Korea, China, Cuba, Russia, Iran
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Originally Posted By crwdplsr: NYC is on my list of places I won't go, and could care less to go. It's right up there with North Korea, China, Cuba, Russia, Iran View Quote |
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