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Posted: 9/14/2023 12:48:46 PM EDT
PITTSBURGH —
Wednesday, the Pennsylvania state Supreme Court heard arguments challenging the existing rule that blocks cities from passing their own gun laws.

“We know gun control’s something that we should be doing, so we should be able to enact our own gun laws,” Pittsburgh Mayor Ed Gainey said.

Currently, gun legislation that impacts Pennsylvania cities remains in the hands of the state.

Wednesday, activists and Philadelphia lawmakers challenged the laws that block cities from passing their own gun laws.

“Crawford versus the Commonwealth could be an incredible turning point for our city. This case represents a decision to the court on whether to overturn the preemption provisions of the Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act,” Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney said.

“We’ve been doing our homework. We’ve been studying what other cities are doing. It’s time,” Gainey said. “We know what’s best for our city. There’s nobody that knows what’s better for our city than us.”

Lisa Ely backs Gainey’s stance.

“We need to do something about it. We can’t keep talking. We need to do something about it, it’s critical,” Ely said.

She lives in the city’s West Oakland neighborhood, Wednesday night's stop for the “City in the Streets” block party. The event brings key city leaders and department heads to Pittsburghers.

“We have all of our departments here, taking live service requests, providing resources, providing information,” senior manager of neighborhood services for the mayor’s office, Rebekkah Ranallo, said.

Leaders in Public Safety, Public Works, and every other department that makes the city run gathered on Terrace Street Wednesday night, alongside local vendors and community leaders.

“When you come out here and you tell a department something, there’s actually going to be something that gets done,” Gainey said.

Access to all city departments, as well as Gainey, will be available once again at the next “City in the Streets” event, Sept. 26, in the city’s Arlington neighborhood.

https://www.wtae.com/article/pa-supreme-court-city-gun-laws-arguments/45131774
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 6:11:59 PM EDT
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Just saw this news on my local tv station.  Losing the State Supreme Court to the Democrats back in 2016 continues to fuck us in the ass.

If the State is told Pre-Emption is no longer valid, you can bet every single Democrat Controlled City/Town/Borough/Village/Whatnot will pass Bans.

Every. Single. Fucking. One of them.

It will be a mess and a fucking mine-field when traveling in the State while transporting firearms.
Link Posted: 9/15/2023 3:00:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GLHX2112:
Just saw this news on my local tv station.  Losing the State Supreme Court to the Democrats back in 2016 continues to fuck us in the ass.

If the State is told Pre-Emption is no longer valid, you can bet every single Democrat Controlled City/Town/Borough/Village/Whatnot will pass Bans.

Every. Single. Fucking. One of them.

It will be a mess and a fucking mine-field when traveling in the State while transporting firearms.
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This supreme Court has upheld preemption before. Wny would this time be any different?
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 8:37:36 AM EDT
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This supreme Court has upheld preemption before. Wny would this time be any different?
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Because they (Supreme Court) are DEMOCRATS. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups...................
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 9:29:14 AM EDT
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This only highlights the importance of republicans in the state regaining seats on the PA Supreme Court.  The current makeup is 4 dems to 2 reps with one seat open (due to the death of Max Baer, a dem).  That seat is up for election THIS year, so while we can't take control of the Court yet, we can start to claw our way back. Theres another seat or two up for election in 2025. Always pay attention to off-year elections.

The redistricting by the state Supreme Court has put us in a very bad position in the general assembly.  We could easily become as bad as NY/NJ after next year. Regaining control of the court is one way to help prevent this.

This is an off-year election, so turnout will be low. That seat could be an easy pick-up if republicans get their asses in gear and get to the polls Nov 7.
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 12:47:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MCBallpeen:


Because they (Supreme Court) are DEMOCRATS. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups...................
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It was 5 to 2 democrat before.
Link Posted: 10/16/2023 5:50:48 PM EDT
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Preemption is the only thing keeping you from turning into NY where every anti gun municipality does whatever they want. Good luck to you guys fighting this.
Link Posted: 10/16/2023 8:10:37 PM EDT
[#7]
It would be chaos if they got rid of preemption.

There are 67 counties in PA. Can you imagine 67 variation of gun laws???

Then, add each city being able to add their own twist???? There is no way Joe Public would be able to know or comply with all of these new gun laws.
Link Posted: 10/18/2023 10:40:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Steve_in_PA:
It would be chaos if they got rid of preemption.

There are 67 counties in PA. Can you imagine 67 variation of gun laws???

Then, add each city being able to add their own twist???? There is no way Joe Public would be able to know or comply with all of these new gun laws.
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They consider that a feature, not a bug.
Link Posted: 10/18/2023 12:08:47 PM EDT
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Federal over state, State over counties......the end
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 6:25:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Steve_in_PA:
It would be chaos if they got rid of preemption.

There are 67 counties in PA. Can you imagine 67 variation of gun laws???

Then, add each city being able to add their own twist???? There is no way Joe Public would be able to know or comply with all of these new gun laws.
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There is 62 in NY so yes I know exactly how that would work. Absolute nightmare
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