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Posted: 11/21/2008 3:43:11 PM EDT
I have been given the go ahead for a local Random thread.
Topics to be covered? Whatever you want, please read the CoC if you think your post maybe borderline. Cars, motorbike's, any other hobbies that you may have, funny pic's (please nothing gross), joke's, your home town, places that you have been, things that you have seen or done that you think maybe of interest to us, AR15 weapons related or not. Tony |
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Posted: 11/21/2008 4:04:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: toemag]
[#1]
I'll start with, I been thinking about a compendium of all of our diverse €uropean weapons laws and how to put that all in one thread that can be tacked.
I don't want word for word step for step translations, just a concise description and how it actually work's, what you are allowed to own and any restrictions that are unhelpful. What I would like to happen is that you nominate yourself per PM to do your Country's gun laws description and I'll edit this Post to show Country and user name of the person who volunteered to do all the hard work. If someone has volunteered to do all the hard work and you are from that Country and have noticed a discrepancy, Please don't start a post to correct the mistake, PM the nominated author and explain what you think is wrong, they can then edit the changes as required. Germany 1 (Civilian) 
Germany 2 (Visiting Military)
France
Spain
Switzerland
Austria
CZ 
Sweden 
Due to the nature of this thread and that we are not going to go into the legal nuts'n'bolts there will be a disclaimer, that will state that this is only a general outline and intended to give an impression of what is allowed in our particular €uropean country and not 100% the whole thing, not legally binding. It will be a lot of work if done correctly, but will save a lot of new threads and legwork in the future as I intend to tack this thread at the top of the page as a reference piece for all our visitors to see and read. When I have a few volunteer's I'll start the thread. Tony |
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Posted: 11/23/2008 2:06:17 PM EDT
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Cool idea, Tony...
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Posted: 11/26/2008 1:18:37 AM EDT
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26 hit's and only one PM so far.
Come on. Tony |
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Posted: 11/27/2008 3:11:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: toemag]
[#4]
I'll be starting the €uropean gun laws thread at the weekend, and as our resident Australian has so kindly volunteered to do a post on Australian and NZ laws I'll be more than happy for him to do a write up on their laws too, for informational purposes.
Once the laws thread has been completed we can probably learn something about how they came to be, either through criminal or acts of terror. Tony |
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Posted: 12/4/2008 1:06:10 PM EDT
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Well done Lancair for your contribution to the Firearms laws thread, as my relatives live in NSW. they probably aren't into shooting.
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It's quite good to compare the ten round magazine capacity limitation that the Brady Bill (USA) brought with it and your Hi-cap magazine ban. The first few rounds count, after that you are in a gunfight and should have at least 2 or 20 spare magazine's, .
Okay who's next? Tony |
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Posted: 12/5/2008 4:09:05 PM EDT
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Since it's a random thread, I'm looking for ideas for a Christmas present for the wife, say under 200 Euros....
ETA: She has no interest in shooting 
I was leaning towards a Dyson.. 
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Posted: 12/6/2008 8:12:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bunnyassassin:
Since it's a random thread, I'm looking for ideas for a Christmas present for the wife, say under 200 Euros.... ETA: She has no interest in shooting
I was leaning towards a Dyson.. I'm lousy at choosing presents, but I'd say a bottle of perfume and a romantic meal then on to the cinema, but like I said, I'm the last person to ask  .
I let my wife get herself whatever she wants, and then I pay for it, last year I bought her a saddle that she'd been after, and that cost me €500+, and got me one happy wife. Now if you really want to have fun at Christmas, I'll give you my sons present lists, .
I just want a pair of socks or two, maybe a stupid tie, and something useless to keep them company. The Acog or the S&B PM scope that I fancy will not be appearing at Christmas.... Tony |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 2:20:57 AM EDT
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Well the festive season is upon us yet again and I was wondering if some of you would like to tell us about your Christmas custom's that are typical of your country?
In England, as children we'd go to bed on Christmas eve (24th), having left mince pies and a glass of brandy for Santa and a few carrots for the reindeer, then not be able to go to sleep, the next morning at sparrow fart we'd be up and wide awake, Presents yipee. I feel that my kids are missing out, the German way being that we adults get to work until lunchtime on the 24th Heiligabend, then it's off home, some go to Church, and when they get back it's Meal time in Bavaria we have Weiß wurst and brezeln, then its present time. How do you do the Christmas thing in your country 
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Posted: 12/25/2008 2:35:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: toemag]
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Merry Christmas
Tony |
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Posted: 1/2/2009 10:16:21 AM EDT
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Happy New Year!!!
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Posted: 1/6/2009 10:11:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: toemag]
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Originally Posted By coctailer:
Happy New Year!!! Thank you, and to you and all of the forum users. Tony |
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Posted: 1/6/2009 10:13:02 AM EDT
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Last night I went to my local range for a IPSC type shoot, and I have to say it was great fun.
Tony |
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Posted: 1/6/2009 6:03:46 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By toemag:
Last night I went to my local range for a IPSC type shoot, and I have to say it was great fun. Tony What gun did you use? |
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Posted: 1/8/2009 4:45:51 AM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By coctailer:
Originally Posted By toemag:
Last night I went to my local range for a IPSC type shoot, and I have to say it was great fun. Tony What gun did you use? The Glock17, it was an interesting course, table 1 was at 20m with your gun and a magazine of 6 rounds, and at table at 10m two you had a second magazine with 6 rounds. The targets were a plate that you had to knock over before you could engage the two half covered IPSC type targets, with two rounds, and there was a dangling cone for those great shots who knocked the plate over with the first shot and engaged all the targets with double taps to shoot. Then it was run to table two load and engage the 5 knock over targets and there was a balloon for the last shot. Best time was 24,?? seconds and no I didn't get anywhere near the 50% score that I would have liked. I enjoyed it so much, that I'll be doing it again and have started training for it with the Co² air pistol that I have in the cellar. Now all I need is to get my shoulder sorted out, since my accident my pistol shooting skills are sh!t. Oh well I was just at a new Doctors and he seems better than the wasters that I have been going to. Tony |
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Posted: 1/8/2009 10:28:13 AM EDT
[#15]
Sounds like fun.
Are there many IPSC matches near you? You are down by Munich right? It would be fun to do some matches when I am in Bamberg. I don't have any friends that shoot in competition.........only hunters. |
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Posted: 1/8/2009 11:20:45 AM EDT
[#16]
Originally Posted By coctailer:
Sounds like fun. Are there many IPSC matches near you? You are down by Munich right? It would be fun to do some matches when I am in Bamberg. I don't have any friends that shoot in competition.........only hunters. I may have mentioned that my cousin got married to a GI?, who is serving in Iraq, well she lives in Bamberg, on post, and I'll be darned if we don't meet up the next time you come over, as to the shooting just let me know when you are going to be here? Tony |
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Posted: 1/9/2009 9:14:55 PM EDT
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I may have to wait till after the Global Financial Crisis is slowed a bit.
It's getting as bad as Germany to find work over here. |
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Posted: 1/10/2009 1:27:46 AM EDT
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We are all feeling the bite, work is slow, as we generally harden things that are used in the metal or automotive industry, parts for vehicles or tooling parts.
Here's the problem as I see it, the Banks and Car makers are getting the bail out, but just how much of this money will trickle down to the shop floor worker or customer. If the banks that have received a financial packet still fold, who will get their money out first, the investors or those who have an account with them? Have a look at what a middle class family car will cost you today in €uro's and what that car would have cost you had you bought it back in 2000, in Deutsch mark etc. I was recently looking at getting another car and was at a dealership, they wanted €6,900 or DM13,800 for a 10 year old Mitsubishi Carisma with 60,000km on the clock  . The sales person just didn't understand me when I said that the car wasn't worth more than €2,000 of my money, and did he get his pay doubled since the €uro was introduced? I could buy a new Dacia Sendero for €7,500, but that's still DM15,000. I'm not stingy, but I do believe in telling the retail or dealerships what's hot and what's not with my money. Don't even start me on the price of ammo, German surplus .308win MEN ammo cost's €300 if you can find it, and in the UK, less than half that price.
The English phrase "fools paradise", seems to fit the bill, and maybe we are long overdue a melt down of some sort. Okay the German Government introduced the 2 year guarantee on used vehicles which has forced most dealers to send their cheaper cars to other countries or continents to save them any future heart aches, or was it them twits in the €uropean parliament? Okay your thoughts Gentlemen please, Tony |
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Posted: 1/18/2009 3:39:49 AM EDT
[#19]
Has anyone any information on the Sig522?
Tony |
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Posted: 1/18/2009 10:23:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2009 11:00:57 AM EDT
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Thanks Buddy, I sent you a PM on Facebook.
Take care. Tony |
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Posted: 1/23/2009 12:51:16 AM EDT
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With the new President of the United State's of America there have come some new policy ideas, amongst which can be found here. About two thirds down the page you will find the following chapter.
Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent. Our American brothers are facing some hard times in the near future, and are turning to the NRA and similar organisations to help enforce their constitutional rights guaranteed by the 2nd amendment. The fourth amendment is under attack, "The fields ruling". FOURTH AMENDMENT [U.S. Constitution] - 'The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
The 22nd amendment is also being repealed, which would do away with the current two terms of four years that a President can serve. Now to my question, do we as mainland €uropeans have in our individual state nations or on a €uropean level such an organisation as the NRA
In Germany we have the Forum Waffen Recht, which has a membership of less than 32,000 and is tame in my eyes, so I'm not (yet) a member. Then there is the Deutsche Jagdschutzverband who concern themselves more with hunting rights than they do with gun laws, and whose attitude to the semi auto weapons used for hunting is so divided that if push came to shove they would fold rather than fight for their members rights to have them. We have been historically divided in €urope, due to our country's borders, culture and national identity, has the time come for us to unite on this front I realise that we don't have a €uropean constitution as they have in the United States, well we do but it doesn't have a second amendment as the US one does, here is what I found on wiki having googled €uropean Constitution I found this and followed it to this, but then only the British and Spanish are mentioned which doesn't cover nearly enough of €urope.
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Posted: 1/23/2009 2:06:08 AM EDT
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I can help from time to time
email is best. |
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Posted: 1/31/2009 7:44:38 AM EDT
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I,m sure this will get pulled
But just a quick one to say thanks to all you guys from the continent mailing me in the last 24 hours asking for Spikes Tactical uppers and lowers As you can understand theres been plenty of guys here in the uk waiting for these very patiantly and they have cleared me out upto now just waiting on a couple of conformations I have another batch due in 8 weeks time so give me a shout to go on the list W 
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Posted: 1/31/2009 8:08:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By chefie:
I,m sure this will get pulled
But just a quick one to say thanks to all you guys from the continent mailing me in the last 24 hours asking for Spikes Tactical uppers and lowers As you can understand theres been plenty of guys here in the uk waiting for these very patiantly and they have cleared me out upto now just waiting on a couple of conformations I have another batch due in 8 weeks time so give me a shout to go on the list W This is a random thread, and everything goes, blatant advertising will however be pulled  , but there is the Equipment Exchange. I don't think that with our small €uro population of regular users we would warrant the same thing that the UK HTF has, please correct me if I have misconceptions on this?
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Posted: 2/4/2009 5:04:39 PM EDT
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So I gave the place a quick clean up, 4 pages of threads from the past that were taking up bandwidth and were well and truly forgotten.
Tony |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 2:46:47 PM EDT
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I was at the Zeiss factory today, had to deliver some bits that we had treated, a very nice place, the plant is massive and is the heart of the Village where it is.
Tony |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2009 3:06:51 PM EDT
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Went quad riding just outside Opava CZ yesterdaz with my brother inlaw. There is some good dirt riding here in CZ and people seem real lazed back about you riding through the fields or on the street. My wife is from Opava we have an apartment here and visit once a year. I still have not been able to go shooting yet but it seems the gun laws are not too bad. Considering I am from CA. When I ask about bringing mine here no one seems to know. Weather should get better before I go home next week so maybe I will get to shoot some full auto stuff. Im lloking forward to the scorpion.
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Posted: 4/25/2009 9:16:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: surplus-gunnut]
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Had the unmitigated pleasure of helping zeroing a friends service rifle today with his newly issued red dot sight, an Aimpoint CompM2. 20 shots of black Diemaco/Colt Canada C7 plastic goodness with proper ammo: RG from 2001
 18 clicks up and 2 right smack in the middle at 300 meters.
Soren Edit: spelling |
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Posted: 5/1/2009 2:30:50 AM EDT
[#30]
Okay lets get the €uropean randoom thread back up to date,
Well we have the Swine Flu or was it the Mexican Flu or due to the Politically corrected madness the new Flu. Anyone worried?? Tony |
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Posted: 5/1/2009 4:01:01 AM EDT
[#31]
No, no, no worry here -*cough*, sneeze -*cough*...
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Posted: 5/3/2009 11:19:04 AM EDT
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I have been following the progress of the New Flu here, even bookmarked it for fast access.
It would seem that in Canada some farmer passed it on to his pig's, which did raise my eyebrows, and raised the following question, are his porkers safe to eat or will they have to be destroyed like the sheep in England that had Foot and Mouth??? Tony |
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Posted: 5/22/2009 5:25:42 PM EDT
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Today I got a new Mercedes truck, and yes it's all white.
Tony |
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Posted: 6/7/2009 6:16:03 AM EDT
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I just got back from the local Polling station here in Hicksville Bavaria Germany, and am pretty annoyed that I wasn't allowed to cast my vote, as I didn't inform them of my intention to vote prior to 17th of May. Okay maybe I'm being somewhat unfair, as I have only been living here since 1992 and am registered to vote in the local elections. I automatically assumed that I would be registered for the €uro election as well.
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Posted: 7/2/2009 1:21:18 PM EDT
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Alan Map 500 Warning!!!!
I have just had the pleasure of playing with a B grade Alan Map 500 GPS handy, well to call it a B grade (seconds) was a disgrace, as it had obviously been on an expedition ( screen was scratched and the general appearance was grubby), to the end of the world and back, it had the €urope basemap (lot of use that is if you are in the middle of hicksville), installed, and the data cable was included as was a (home burned) CD rom with programmes to add to the GPS's hard drive. The explanation of how to upload that data was sketchy to say the least, and I have to admit to having tried it out in German, then in English and failed on both accounts. So they are getting it back in the next few day's. With most electrical appliances that I have programmed in the past the included software opens a programming interface which has several advantages, some of which include parameter selection and one of the most important is the selection of the com port etc etc. POS... Tony |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 5:41:47 AM EDT
[#36]
just to say hello from austria !
does anybody has his own shooting range at home ? me unfortunately not... greez! |
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Posted: 8/26/2009 1:54:53 PM EDT
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Stubaital is mega, well at least Neustift is, off up a mountain for a walk in the morning, TTYL.
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Posted: 11/14/2009 4:52:08 PM EDT
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Time to revive this one with a question
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Do we have any Ham radio operators on the €urope HTF
I'm only asking because I was browsing through "you tube" and happened upon someone who's location isn't all that far away from myself and he was DX'ing to the UK from Munich on the CB band. As I used to be into the old CB I went and bought all the stuff I'd be needing for a home base, PSU, SWR & patch, 20m coax, Intek 550 and a solarcon Antron 99 which I still have to set up. If anyone is a CB user maybe we could have a little DX competition
Tony |
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Posted: 12/29/2009 5:13:09 PM EDT
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Could anybody with the knowledge put up the gun laws of Luxembourg?
TIA Soren |
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Posted: 12/30/2009 9:50:32 AM EDT
[#40]
Originally Posted By surplus-gunnut:
Could anybody with the knowledge put up the gun laws of Luxembourg? TIA Soren Hey Soren, I just googled your question and it looks like they banned all gun ownership for civilian's 
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Posted: 2/21/2010 3:29:24 PM EDT
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I have just done some pre-spring cleaning, 5 pages was a bit much, sorry if I trashed some threads that hadn't moved for a long time.
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Posted: 3/22/2010 10:59:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2010 2:46:01 PM EDT
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I haven't used this thread for a while, but this is where this subject belongs
http://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Sohn-mit-Plastiktuete-erstickt-article1535691.html Then here's one to the Poll http://www.n-tv.de/umfragen/ On the second link, you need to answer with a "Nein" to the question of "Sollen Schusswaffen in der Wohnung verboten werden?". Many thanks. Tony |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 4:54:31 PM EDT
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41% to 59%
Pretty disturbing Tony. I would have hoped for a larger spread. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 5:45:01 PM EDT
[#45]
Originally Posted By coctailer:
41% to 59% Pretty disturbing Tony. I would have hoped for a larger spread. Hiya Andy, We are loosing support fast, due to the frequency in which firearms have been used in recent years. The people are getting scared, that it will be them or theirs next. Let's hope common sense prevails, even if the term is a bit of an oxymoron these days in our ever increasing PC corrupted world. Hope you and the family are well pal. Stay safe. Tony |
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Posted: 10/10/2010 3:39:18 AM EDT
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You need to go and vote on the above mentioned poll as the antis are gaining ground 45% to 55% at the moment.
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Posted: 12/31/2010 2:57:38 PM EDT
[#47]
Happy New year
 
Tony |
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Posted: 1/1/2011 6:59:13 PM EDT
[#48]
Are the wild pigs in Germany really radioactive (from eating mushrooms poisoned by the Chernobyl nuclear meltdown)? Discuss.
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Posted: 1/2/2011 3:40:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By hrt4me:
Are the wild pigs in Germany really radioactive (from eating mushrooms poisoned by the Chernobyl nuclear meltdown)? Discuss. This is a good one, as me and a few hunting buddies are convinced that the average person has more radiation in them than the radiation levels set by them scientists. Tony |
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Posted: 1/2/2011 10:07:51 AM EDT
[#50]
Originally Posted By toemag:
Originally Posted By hrt4me:
Are the wild pigs in Germany really radioactive (from eating mushrooms poisoned by the Chernobyl nuclear meltdown)? Discuss. This is a good one, as me and a few hunting buddies are convinced that the average person has more radiation in them than the radiation levels set by them scientists. Tony Sola Dosis Facit Venenum |
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