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Posted: 1/31/2024 1:10:53 PM EDT
Saint Benitez does it again!
https://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2024-01-31-Decision.pdf |
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CHN
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Posted: 1/31/2024 2:05:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Saint Benitez does it again! https://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2024-01-31-Decision.pdf |
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USA
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Posted: 1/31/2024 3:39:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Trollslayer]
[#2]
So, if I go to Turner's, can I buy ammo today?
Can I order ammo on the internet? Defendant Attorney General Rob Bonta, and his officers, agents, servants, employees, and attorneys, and those persons in active concert or participation with him, and those duly sworn state peace officers and federal law enforcement officers who gain knowledge of this injunction order or know of the existence of this injunction order, are enjoined from implementing or enforcing the ammunition sales background check provisions found in California Penal Code §§ 30352 and 30370(a) through (e), and the ammunition anti-importation provisions found in §§ 30312(a) and (b) and 30314(a), as well as the criminal enforcement of California Penal Code §§ 30312(d), 30314(c), and 30365(a). |
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USA
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Posted: 1/31/2024 3:53:10 PM EDT
[#3]
The state will probably get a stay in before most companies lawyers go over it.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2024 6:06:25 PM EDT
[#4]
YO! SAINT BENITEZ!
...at the 9:18 mark:  BREAKING NEWS: Judge Benitez Rules California Ammo Background Checks UNCONSTITUTIONAL! 
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Posted: 1/31/2024 7:23:22 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajcrash: The state will probably get a stay in before most companies lawyers go over it. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2024 8:28:29 PM EDT
[#6]
YES! Lots of retailers and wholesalers: BUY NOW!
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USA
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Posted: 1/31/2024 9:11:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Last time we got a ruling like this I ordered a few cases from Brownells… they canceled my order before it shipped.
Everyone will be celebration buying it gonna be rough. Lol If anyone has a list of who all is shipping here that would be helpful. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/31/2024 10:32:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ajcrash]
[#8]
Add Rainier Arms to the list.
ETA: True Shot, GrabaGun Fort Scott Munitions. Free shipping on orders over $150 Sportsman’s Warehouse |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2024 10:45:18 PM EDT
[#9]
Fenix ammo and PSA also.
I ordered from PSA. I will try brick and mortar store tomorrow |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 12:17:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajcrash: Last time we got a ruling like this I ordered a few cases from Brownells they canceled my order before it shipped. Everyone will be celebration buying it gonna be rough. Lol If anyone has a list of who all is shipping here that would be helpful. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/1/2024 12:57:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jus_Ad_Bellum: Brownells is in. They were in last time too. They should prioritize CA ammo orders before the state gets the 9th to put a stay on it again. I got in an order, but I’m not holding my breath. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 11:56:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajcrash: They were in last time too. They should prioritize CA ammo orders before the state gets the 9th to put a stay on it again. I got in an order, but I'm not holding my breath. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 3:30:46 PM EDT
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I just shipped some to my son in CA from Target Sports USA. They said that they are NOT shipping to mailing addresses in LA (not sure if it is LA city or LA county). The rest of CA is open for business.
If the 9th circuit issues a stay after the ammo is shipped but before he receives it then what is the legal status? |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 5:12:33 PM EDT
[#14]
After a 2 year hiatus, I am back working in California.
Just stopped at the Turner's in Corona and picked up some nontoxic shotgun ammo . It's nice to see that nonresidents can also buy ammunition . Guys in line waiting were talking about "hoarding off the books" while this is in place. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 5:47:45 PM EDT
[#15]
I see prices on ammo went magically higher since this too.
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CHN
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Posted: 2/5/2024 3:23:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Still in effect?
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Posted: 2/5/2024 7:28:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Still in effect? So far! |
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USA
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Posted: 2/5/2024 10:28:12 PM EDT
[#18]
Screwed by the 9th yet again.
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Posted: 2/6/2024 1:24:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajcrash: Screwed by the 9th yet again. Dirty fuckin sons of bitches 
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CHN
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Posted: 2/6/2024 2:01:30 PM EDT
[#20]
Disappointing but expected.
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USA
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Posted: 2/6/2024 7:37:31 PM EDT
[#21]
Looks like some companies are shipping orders that were placed prior to last night’s ruling but hadn’t shipped yet.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 12:13:08 PM EDT
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I find it interesting how each commie governor and AG have their own personal judges in the form of the 9th circus in t heir pockets on an as needed basis.
The entire country sees the 9th for what it is. This verdicts always predictable, completely bought and paid for, yet they remain judges. We should really make it a point to remember their names, put their names on blast so that they are easily remembered for why they have and continue to do. As far as Newsom, can you imagine the damage he would cause as POTUS? He sure is chummy with Dementia Joe. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 2:48:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dogfacepappy: I find it interesting how each commie governor and AG have their own personal judges in the form of the 9th circus in t heir pockets on an as needed basis. The entire country sees the 9th for what it is. This verdicts always predictable, completely bought and paid for, yet they remain judges. We should really make it a point to remember their names, put their names on blast so that they are easily remembered for why they have and continue to do. As far as Newsom, can you imagine the damage he would cause as POTUS? He sure is chummy with Dementia Joe. Look at how the left marches together. I don't think the judges are bought and paid for. They are true believers doing the will of the Party. They don't necessary need or have specific instructions on doing the will of the Party. They know what it is and will act on it. It's really worse than corruption. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:00:05 PM EDT
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Very fortunately I don't live in California but has anyone been prosecuted for bringing in ammunition from out of state? Other than as an add on charge for some lowlife who's not a very sympathetic defendant and with much bigger charges to contend with.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 9:41:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fire4effect69: Very fortunately I don't live in California but has anyone been prosecuted for bringing in ammunition from out of state? Other than as an add on charge for some lowlife who's not a very sympathetic defendant and with much bigger charges to contend with. I think so but don't recall too much press hyperventilating about it. My recollection is there has been some surveillance at border "close" stores or shows involving Ca plated cars or some problem that ends up disclosing the stuff, say involved in an accident or a vehicle stop leading to an arrest and search, etc. If I were to compare things, it might be like buying fireworks, tobacco or booze across state lines in some places, and how often turns into a bust? My impression is not often. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/9/2024 2:58:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Trollslayer]
[#26]
I am a bit puzzled about the stay of the injunction.
In issuing the stay, the judge wrote, "I do not believe appellant (AG Rob Bonta representing the state) has met his burden of showing a likelihood of success on the merits…”. To me, that means Bonta did not make his case. If the Bonta did not make his case during his day in court, the judge should NOT have issued the stay. Am I missing or misinterpreting something here? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2024 9:36:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trollslayer: I am a bit puzzled about the stay of the injunction. In issuing the stay, the judge wrote, "I do not believe appellant (AG Rob Bonta representing the state) has met his burden of showing a likelihood of success on the merits…”. To me, that means Bonta did not make his case. If the Bonta did not make his case during his day in court, the judge should NOT have issued the stay. Am I missing or misinterpreting something here? Just the ninth doing ninth things. |
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Posted: 2/10/2024 6:18:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HDLS]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trollslayer: I am a bit puzzled about the stay of the injunction. In issuing the stay, the judge wrote, "I do not believe appellant (AG Rob Bonta representing the state) has met his burden of showing a likelihood of success on the merits…”. To me, that means Bonta did not make his case. If the Bonta did not make his case during his day in court, the judge should NOT have issued the stay. Am I missing or misinterpreting something here? 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals voted 2-1 That was the dissenting judge. “I do not believe (Bonta) has met his burden of showing a likelihood of success on the merits or that irreparable injury will occur absent a stay,” Callahan wrote in her dissent. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/11/2024 2:25:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals voted 2-1 That was the dissenting judge. “I do not believe (Bonta) has met his burden of showing a likelihood of success on the merits or that irreparable injury will occur absent a stay,” Callahan wrote in her dissent. Thank you for that. Somehow, I did not see that last most important little bit. |
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