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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:13:40 AM EDT
https://www.legislature.mi.gov/Bills/Bill?ObjectName=2024-SB-0858
Revokes the exemption for carry at any place with a liquior license, banks and theaters (under 2500), and capitol buildings. GOA has a form up to contact your Rep HERE |
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Thanks for putting this out.
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Member Ranstad's Militia
You ever notice that no one says "don't judge me" when they've done something positive? - gearjammer351 Do it. GD needs entertainment. Your misery will amuse us. - Cypselus |
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Submitted the form. Had to tweak it because she is my rep.
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I filled it out. Only 448 people have so far.
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These bills will harm concealed carry in a big way. We should be spamming these worthless cunts in lansing over this. Their phones should never stop ringing, and their inbox should be full every day.
I don't understand why we can't seem to get any traction on this even on a gun board. |
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You get a $1,000,000,000,000 & you get a trillion$
MI, USA
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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. - Thomas Jefferson
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Submitted. Ty
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Interestingly enough off duty carry for LE is a no go at the capital.
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IMO, nobody but armed LEO's on duty should be carrying on Capital grounds. It only takes one nut under the cover of law to trigger gun control legislation that would make everything up to now look like child's play.
Terrified politicians rarely make good decisions, they rarely make good decisions when emotionally stable. |
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol: IMO, nobody but armed LEO's on duty should be carrying on Capital grounds. It only takes one nut under the cover of law to trigger gun control legislation that would make everything up to now look like child's play. Terrified politicians rarely make good decisions, they rarely make good decisions when emotionally stable. View Quote I don’t disagree with you on any of this. I’d understand it more if the politicians would not have exempted themselves in the process. The armed rally at the capital showed everyone that certain individuals thought they “won” by their actions. When in reality ground was lost concerning gun rights. |
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol: IMO, nobody but armed LEO's on duty should be carrying on Capital grounds. It only takes one nut under the cover of law to trigger gun control legislation that would make everything up to now look like child's play. Terrified politicians rarely make good decisions, they rarely make good decisions when emotionally stable. View Quote I love how LEO think they’re special. You’re not. Attitudes like this are why we lost, and will continue to lose. You’re giving leftist gun grabbers cover to eat away at our rights. |
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Originally Posted By DB0351: I love how LEO think they’re special. You’re not. Attitudes like this are why we lost, and will continue to lose. You’re giving leftist gun grabbers cover to eat away at our rights. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DB0351: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: IMO, nobody but armed LEO's on duty should be carrying on Capital grounds. It only takes one nut under the cover of law to trigger gun control legislation that would make everything up to now look like child's play. Terrified politicians rarely make good decisions, they rarely make good decisions when emotionally stable. I love how LEO think they’re special. You’re not. Attitudes like this are why we lost, and will continue to lose. You’re giving leftist gun grabbers cover to eat away at our rights. In this scenario I have to disagree with you. No carry even for off duty helps prevent a blue on blue situation. Uniformed on duty may carry - which is my understanding- and would make sense. The thing is nothing positive came out of the open carry rally that went on during COVID. Yes people were upset but understand the opposition was looking for every excuse to paint is as gun toting lunatics. It made for good press, an effective smear campaign was run, and ground was lost. |
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Originally Posted By DTFD714: In this scenario I have to disagree with you. No carry even for off duty helps prevent a blue on blue situation. Uniformed on duty may carry - which is my understanding- and would make sense. The thing is nothing positive came out of the open carry rally that went on during COVID. Yes people were upset but understand the opposition was looking for every excuse to paint is as gun toting lunatics. It made for good press, an effective smear campaign was run, and ground was lost. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DTFD714: Originally Posted By DB0351: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: IMO, nobody but armed LEO's on duty should be carrying on Capital grounds. It only takes one nut under the cover of law to trigger gun control legislation that would make everything up to now look like child's play. Terrified politicians rarely make good decisions, they rarely make good decisions when emotionally stable. I love how LEO think they’re special. You’re not. Attitudes like this are why we lost, and will continue to lose. You’re giving leftist gun grabbers cover to eat away at our rights. In this scenario I have to disagree with you. No carry even for off duty helps prevent a blue on blue situation. Uniformed on duty may carry - which is my understanding- and would make sense. The thing is nothing positive came out of the open carry rally that went on during COVID. Yes people were upset but understand the opposition was looking for every excuse to paint is as gun toting lunatics. It made for good press, an effective smear campaign was run, and ground was lost. So how is supporting a left wing gun grab on a gun website helping? |
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Originally Posted By DB0351: So how is supporting a left wing gun grab on a gun website helping? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DB0351: Originally Posted By DTFD714: Originally Posted By DB0351: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: IMO, nobody but armed LEO's on duty should be carrying on Capital grounds. It only takes one nut under the cover of law to trigger gun control legislation that would make everything up to now look like child's play. Terrified politicians rarely make good decisions, they rarely make good decisions when emotionally stable. I love how LEO think they’re special. You’re not. Attitudes like this are why we lost, and will continue to lose. You’re giving leftist gun grabbers cover to eat away at our rights. In this scenario I have to disagree with you. No carry even for off duty helps prevent a blue on blue situation. Uniformed on duty may carry - which is my understanding- and would make sense. The thing is nothing positive came out of the open carry rally that went on during COVID. Yes people were upset but understand the opposition was looking for every excuse to paint is as gun toting lunatics. It made for good press, an effective smear campaign was run, and ground was lost. So how is supporting a left wing gun grab on a gun website helping? I’m not certain where I supported a left wing gun grab? If the facts of the rally incident supposedly support it then so be it I guess. Keep in mind all off duty LE is barred from carrying in the capital. I disagree with the politicians carrying themselves but I’m not the one writing the rules. LE doesn’t get a special carve out here. As I said earlier. Ground was lost. I don’t care what angle anyone looks at it as, this is a fact. |
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Originally Posted By DTFD714: I’m not certain where I supported a left wing gun grab? If the facts of the rally incident supposedly support it then so be it I guess. Keep in mind all off duty LE is barred from carrying in the capital. I disagree with the politicians carrying themselves but I’m not the one writing the rules. LE doesn’t get a special carve out here. As I said earlier. Ground was lost. I don’t care what angle anyone looks at it as, this is a fact. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DTFD714: Originally Posted By DB0351: Originally Posted By DTFD714: Originally Posted By DB0351: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: IMO, nobody but armed LEO's on duty should be carrying on Capital grounds. It only takes one nut under the cover of law to trigger gun control legislation that would make everything up to now look like child's play. Terrified politicians rarely make good decisions, they rarely make good decisions when emotionally stable. I love how LEO think they’re special. You’re not. Attitudes like this are why we lost, and will continue to lose. You’re giving leftist gun grabbers cover to eat away at our rights. In this scenario I have to disagree with you. No carry even for off duty helps prevent a blue on blue situation. Uniformed on duty may carry - which is my understanding- and would make sense. The thing is nothing positive came out of the open carry rally that went on during COVID. Yes people were upset but understand the opposition was looking for every excuse to paint is as gun toting lunatics. It made for good press, an effective smear campaign was run, and ground was lost. So how is supporting a left wing gun grab on a gun website helping? I’m not certain where I supported a left wing gun grab? If the facts of the rally incident supposedly support it then so be it I guess. Keep in mind all off duty LE is barred from carrying in the capital. I disagree with the politicians carrying themselves but I’m not the one writing the rules. LE doesn’t get a special carve out here. As I said earlier. Ground was lost. I don’t care what angle anyone looks at it as, this is a fact. Have you written or called your state reps and senators to urge them to oppose the bill in the OP? If so carry on. |
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These legislators have nothing better to do. They should try thinking first.
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Originally Posted By DB0351: I love how LEO think they’re special. You’re not. Attitudes like this are why we lost, and will continue to lose. You’re giving leftist gun grabbers cover to eat away at our rights. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DB0351: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: IMO, nobody but armed LEO's on duty should be carrying on Capital grounds. It only takes one nut under the cover of law to trigger gun control legislation that would make everything up to now look like child's play. Terrified politicians rarely make good decisions, they rarely make good decisions when emotionally stable. I love how LEO think they’re special. You’re not. Attitudes like this are why we lost, and will continue to lose. You’re giving leftist gun grabbers cover to eat away at our rights. I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of law enforcement. My handle is based on my belief that every American is responsible for border security. Stop ASSuming things. |
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Originally Posted By wizzi01: That dude is not leo. He is the next Jeremy Dewitte wannabe. View Quote I had to look up Dewitte so I could understand your reference. Do you have a lawyer? If so, you should ask him for a consultation regarding slander and liable accusations. The possible financial fallout. Discovery is a funny thing, not even AR15.com can protect your identity once a subpoena is received. Childish men need a to get a SLAP now and then. When you don't agree with someone, which everyone has a right to disagree, does not give you license to accuse that person of criminal tendencies, molestation or sexual perversion. I will think on this a day or two, then decide if I want to see you face you face to face in a court of law. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bucket-Back: Originally Posted By wizzi01: That dude is not leo. He is the next Jeremy Dewitte wannabe. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif Read my response, defendant number two? |
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol: I had to look up Dewitte so I could understand your reference. Do you have a lawyer? If so, you should ask him for a consultation regarding slander and liable accusations. The possible financial fallout. Discovery is a funny thing, not even AR15.com can protect your identity once a subpoena is received. Childish men need a to get a SLAP now and then. When you don't agree with someone, which everyone has a right to disagree, does not give you license to accuse that person of criminal tendencies, molestation or sexual perversion. I will think on this a day or two, then decide if I want to see you face you face to face in a court of law. View Quote Lol, you go straight past police wannabe. You know the stuff I base my opinions about you. The stuff you write about loving police without question. As for the other stuff how would I know anything about it since I only go by what you write. Also, show me where I said the sexual tendencies of Dewitte. My opinions are just that. If you take them personally that is in you but opinions are not slander. Everything I have ever posted is opinion unless I have a news source to back it up as fact. |
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol: I had to look up Dewitte so I could understand your reference. Do you have a lawyer? If so, you should ask him for a consultation regarding slander and liable accusations. The possible financial fallout. Discovery is a funny thing, not even AR15.com can protect your identity once a subpoena is received. Childish men need a to get a SLAP now and then. When you don't agree with someone, which everyone has a right to disagree, does not give you license to accuse that person of criminal tendencies, molestation or sexual perversion. I will think on this a day or two, then decide if I want to see you face you face to face in a court of law. View Quote Go figures, someone who dreams of a destopian police state would threaten to sue a guy for slander. People like this character are a threat to our freedom, get with it dude the goverment is not your friend. |
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Originally Posted By tylermar: Go figures, someone who dreams of a destopian police state would threaten to sue a guy for slander. People like this character are a threat to our freedom, get with it dude the goverment is not your friend. View Quote It's even funnier because of his threat of violence to slap someone. |
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I'm on Capitol grounds everyday.
I have to park there and walk to work. Downtown is a piece of shit. I carry everyday. |
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Personal attacks
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