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Posted: 1/24/2024 12:12:10 AM EDT
We knew that more shit was coming. Here's a preview.
https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2024/01/23/draft-bill-puts-numerous-places-off-limits-to-concealed-carry/ |
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"Positive rights" are neither.
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Wow. That's pretty bad.
The list of no-go places, a lot of those already have policies in place. You cannot carry in a hospital. They have security and detectors in place, at least where I am at. You cannot carry in a mental health facility, the security wands you down before you even get through the door. Unless you have a job to carry at a school, you definitely cannot. College campuses are different. But some have policies. So what does this bill accomplish? Punishment for careless people who get caught carrying? A psychopathic killer isn't gonna give one fucking rip about a small dollar fine. Also, people who ignore it and carry anyways are, what, dissuaded to do so if they have to use their weapon? At that point, a minor fine is inconsequential anyways as well. So all I can reason that this is/does, is punishment for careless people with good intentions and get caught, or punishment for people who are found to have a gun after they must present it and use it. Most everyone who legally carries understands the gravity of their decision, so a gun would only be presented/used in the most dire of situations. Therefore, it is a punishment for good people only (and possibly a minor deterrent). What an immensely irresponsible and disingenuous bill. Punish good people. Geez. |
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"The simple believe anything, but the prudent give thought to their steps"
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The bill doesn’t stop there, however. It goes on to define what “sensitive spaces” in Colorado are, and prohibits the carrying of a gun either open or concealed. That list includes:
A public park or playground A recreation facility or community center that is open to the public and is owned, operated or managed by a local government. Property open to the public while a public gathering, assembly or special event is being conducted, which includes demonstrations, marches, rallies, vigils, protests, and picket lines, as well as the sidewalk or streets adjacent to the gathering In a building or real property owned, leased, or operated by the state or a local government or on the adjacent grounds. Rhodes said his group does plan to fight this bill should it ever get introduced, but he’s also concerned about nearly a dozen other bills that he is aware of that may be introduced. Those include: A second try at a ban on semi-automatic weapons. A second try at a private property shooting ban. A liability insurance requirement. A church carry ban. A further expansion of the so-called “red flag” law. Requiring background checks and waiting periods on the purchase of ammunition, magazines, parts and accessories. Requiring a permit to purchase and a limit of one gun purchase per month. 10-day waiting period. |
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Here's another one. Pet registration. I'm thinking that this one won't go anywhere, but you never know. It's another example of the rampant nanny mindset.
https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1163#:~:text=A%20pet%20animal%20owner%20must,designated%20caregiver%2C%20and%20%2425%20annually |
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Here's another one. Pet registration. I'm thinking that this one won't go anywhere, but you never know. It's another example of the rampant nanny mindset. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1163#:~:text=A%20pet%20animal%20owner%20must,designated%20caregiver%2C%20and%20%2425%20annually View Quote |
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Here we go. https://denvergazette.com/news/first-gun-reform-bills-of-the-new-session-arrive-at-the-colorado-capitol/article_266101f3-cce0-5df7-ad4b-19d7af252d11.html View Quote |
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Originally Posted By saigamanTX: I knew they would eventually come after shops not enforcing the magazine ban View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By saigamanTX: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Here we go. https://denvergazette.com/news/first-gun-reform-bills-of-the-new-session-arrive-at-the-colorado-capitol/article_266101f3-cce0-5df7-ad4b-19d7af252d11.html Complete repair kits. |
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"Positive rights" are neither.
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If SB131 passes, it will effectively end CCW in CO. Which is the exact point of it.
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Abolish the FBI, ATF, and the NSA.
Any citizen accused of a crime is presumed innocent until bankrupted beyond all reasonable doubt. |
Originally Posted By The_Fly: If SB131 passes, it will effectively end CCW in CO. Which is the exact point of it. View Quote Blatantly unconsitutional per Bruen. But the Dems don't care, they'll pass it anyway. It'll take years to fight it in court, and in the meantime the law will stand. |
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They want to start going after the "hi capacity" magazines and those that sell them now too. Going to make the CBI the defacto gun enforcement gestapo and target gun shops in counties where sheriffs have said they won't enforce that. Going to get sporty then.....
Didn't see in the article where there was any evidence showing that the mag ban has impacted anything. 10 day waiting period??? Guess its time to start buying anything that I had my eye recently and continue building the ammo fort. This state is fooked..... |
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Originally Posted By 99superduty: They want to start going after the "hi capacity" magazines and those that sell them now too. Going to make the CBI the defacto gun enforcement gestapo and target gun shops in counties where sheriffs have said they won't enforce that. Going to get sporty then..... Didn't see in the article where there was any evidence showing that the mag ban has impacted anything. 10 day waiting period??? Guess its time to start buying anything that I had my eye recently and continue building the ammo fort. This state is fooked..... View Quote |
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Originally Posted By saigamanTX: Magazine parts kits are not illegal and not even mentioned in the 2013 bill. That's how you tell the Dems to suck a dick. View Quote I tell them to suck a dick anyways...luckily I travel a fair bit for work.... They are going to close that "loophole" with one of these bills I'm sure. |
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"Positive rights" are neither.
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The new code should be "nunya," but it's a 4-digit deal.
Cash is king. This cleared the committee. https://kdvr.com/news/local/proposed-bill-would-categorize-firearm-sales/ |
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Being a soon to be felon is oddly liberating.
In minecraft. Or some such shit. |
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More nonsense rationalized with lies. Ban on sport utility rifles and .50 cals. They must want to do something else afterwards.
https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2024A/bills/2024a_1292_01.pdf |
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: More nonsense rationalized with lies. Ban on sport utility rifles and.50 cals. They must want to do something else afterwards. https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2024A/bills/2024a_1292_01.pdf View Quote |
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There is language in this about possession of parts that could be assembled into an AW.
Coupled with the expansion of powers they're trying to ram thru for the CBI, they might really be trying to get this passed this year. |
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82: There is language in this about possession of parts that could be assembled into an AW. Coupled with the expansion of powers they're trying to ram thru for the CBI, they might really be trying to get this passed this year. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82: There is language in this about possession of parts that could be assembled into an AW. Coupled with the expansion of powers they're trying to ram thru for the CBI, they might really be trying to get this passed this year. View Quote |
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That's really odd- with over 2000 opioid related deaths in the last 2 years, 40,000+ illegal immigrants and over 10,000 homeless (in Denver alone) it seems to me they should be focusing on other priorities.
Perhaps they really are not working in OUR best interests. |
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The most important thing to be learned from those who demand “Equity/Equality For All” is that all are not equal
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Good Breakdown Video On HB 24-1292
Meet Colorado's New Assault Weapon Ban. And Why You Better Stock Up Now |
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Calling it a right doesn't make it one.
https://tsscolorado.com/right-of-first-refusal-bill-returns-in-different-form-gets-first-legislative-ok/ |
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"Positive rights" are neither.
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Originally Posted By hockeysew: That's really odd- with over 2000 opioid related deaths in the last 2 years, 40,000+ illegal immigrants and over 10,000 homeless (in Denver alone) it seems to me they should be focusing on other priorities. Perhaps they really are not working in OUR best interests. View Quote Oh you silly goose you. Of course they know what’s best for us. All hail the mighty all knowing government. |
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Requiring insurers to provide firearms liability insurance and firearms owners to have it.
These rodents spend their time thinking of different ways to control others into Utopia. https://denvergazette.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-colorado-lawmakers-eye-a-backdoor-gun-tax/article_f19d0a4b-2aab-59f8-86b1-94678ca41359.html Link to summary, which contains link to actual bill. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1270 |
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Originally Posted By pestilence12:College campuses are different. But some have policies. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By pestilence12:College campuses are different. But some have policies. Oddly enough, the one with the gold domed building is one of the best in the state in that regard Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Requiring insurers to provide firearms liability insurance and firearms owners to have it. All while calling companies like USCCA "murder insurance" |
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Requiring insurers to provide firearms liability insurance and firearms owners to have it. These rodents spend their time thinking of different ways to control others into Utopia. https://denvergazette.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-colorado-lawmakers-eye-a-backdoor-gun-tax/article_f19d0a4b-2aab-59f8-86b1-94678ca41359.html Link to summary, which contains link to actual bill. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1270 View Quote Requiring people to pay for insurance to exercise their right to firearm ownership? That's no different than a poll tax. There's no way that can be constitutional. |
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Originally Posted By Kalmah: Requiring people to pay for insurance to exercise their right to firearm ownership? That's no different than a poll tax. There's no way that can be constitutional. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kalmah: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Requiring insurers to provide firearms liability insurance and firearms owners to have it. These rodents spend their time thinking of different ways to control others into Utopia. https://denvergazette.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-colorado-lawmakers-eye-a-backdoor-gun-tax/article_f19d0a4b-2aab-59f8-86b1-94678ca41359.html Link to summary, which contains link to actual bill. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1270 Requiring people to pay for insurance to exercise their right to firearm ownership? That's no different than a poll tax. There's no way that can be constitutional. The same can be said for having to pay for a (redundant) background check and that poll tax has been in place for over a decade. |
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"Positive rights" are neither.
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HB24-1270: This measure would require all gun owners to maintain liability insurance, further increasing the unconstitutional financial burden of exercising our Second Amendment rights. It is scheduled for a House Business Affairs & Labor Committee hearing on March 14th at 1:30 pm.
I was going through the list to submit testimony and for some reason it's not there. Can anyone double check for me? |
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Colorado Assault Weapons Ban 2024 - Rally Call! |
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The most important thing to be learned from those who demand “Equity/Equality For All” is that all are not equal
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Originally Posted By hockeysew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77c6q1WjwRY View Quote 3) S&W M&P380 Shield EZ 4) Glock 19 5) Springfield Hellcat 6) S&W M&P Shield 7) Glock 43X 8) Glock 43 9) Rugur SR22 (the only gun on the list not directly banned by this bill) 10) Kimber Micro 9 11) Sig P238 The Rugur SR22, the only gun on this list that wouldn't be subject to Colorado's "Assault Weapons Ban," is also the only gun on this list not recommended by Well Armed Women for self-defense. Why? Because a .22 caliber weapon is considered inadequate when confronted with a threat to life. |
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The CSSA (of which I'm a member) should be embarrassed for misspelling "Ruger" twice.
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"Positive rights" are neither.
Busy leaving people the F alone. |
I posted in the other thread, too.
I just heard on the radio that the credit card coding is heading to Polis' desk. |
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"Positive rights" are neither.
Busy leaving people the F alone. |
No such "right" exists because it's not a right. It's legal coercion.
https://tsscolorado.com/house-approves-bill-to-give-local-governments-rights-to-for-sale-apartment-complexes/ |
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Originally Posted By Harlikwin: TBH alot of their "hot takes" also sound like bullshit. Also a member and the laws suck, but don't make shit up about them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Harlikwin: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: The CSSA (of which I'm a member) should be embarrassed for misspelling "Ruger" twice. TBH alot of their "hot takes" also sound like bullshit. Also a member and the laws suck, but don't make shit up about them. @Harlikwin I'm not clear on your post. Did you suggest that I made up shit about the CSSA? They did misspell "Ruger" as "Rugur." I read it on their site and another member cut and paste it above. They may have since fixed it. |
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"Positive rights" are neither.
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: @Harlikwin I'm not clear on your post. Did you suggest that I made up shit about the CSSA? They did misspell "Ruger" as "Rugur." I read it on their site and another member cut and paste it above. They may have since fixed it. View Quote Not at all. I'm just saying they were scaremongering about the bills. |
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"Positive rights" are neither.
Busy leaving people the F alone. |
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Abolish the FBI, ATF, and the NSA.
Any citizen accused of a crime is presumed innocent until bankrupted beyond all reasonable doubt. |
Our (not) "libertarian" governor just signed this bill which robbed landlords of their property rights.
https://www.cpr.org/2024/04/19/for-cause-evictions-bill-signed-colorado-landlords-have-to-offer-lease-extensions/ |
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Busy leaving people the F alone. |
I bet rents sky rocket as a result of more communist interference.
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Abolish the FBI, ATF, and the NSA.
Any citizen accused of a crime is presumed innocent until bankrupted beyond all reasonable doubt. |
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Today, HB24-1292, the so-called 'Assault Weapons Ban,' was assigned to the Senate State, Veterans, and Military Affairs Committee.
The Democrats hold a 3-2 vote advantage, and flipping just ONE vote will kill this bill. One of the Senators on the Committee is radical anti-gun Senator Tom Sullivan! Contact your Senator and DEMAND that they vote no on HB24-1292. |
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Originally Posted By saigamanTX: Today, HB24-1292, the so-called 'Assault Weapons Ban,' was assigned to the Senate State, Veterans, and Military Affairs Committee. The Democrats hold a 3-2 vote advantage, and flipping just ONE vote will kill this bill. One of the Senators on the Committee is radical anti-gun Senator Tom Sullivan! Contact your Senator and DEMAND that they vote no on HB24-1292. View Quote Who are the 3 dems on the committee and which one is the best bet to flip. |
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Yeah I posted all the emails in the other thread.
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