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Posted: 1/3/2024 2:00:00 PM EDT
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Quote History Originally Posted By VodoundaVinci:
I just logged and and it goes to the registration area so I'm assuming it's still active and will stay that way.
"What firearms are regulated......"
Since JCAR has never formally adopted "rules" we are stuck with the emergency rules defined by ISP. Doesn't look like there will be a definitive list at present. I am still of the opinion that they will not charge nor attempt to charge all of the non compliant. My opinion is that they will "cherry pick" a list of people who have royally opposed PICA and who are high profile within the gun community and single them out to be "made an example of". That would not gobble up huge resources. I'm of the opinion that there is a "list" of people to be slapped down and if they are going to enforce the law and if it begins, it will be in loyal Blue counties like Cook and Lake.
IMO.
VooDoo View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Originally Posted By VodoundaVinci:Originally Posted By kaneljo3000:
Is registration still open past the deadline? I just logged and and it goes to the registration area so I'm assuming it's still active and will stay that way. "What firearms are regulated......" PICA regulates the possession of assault weapons (among other things) and sets forth a definition that conveys which firearms are included in the Act. The definition of "assault weapon" in PICA is very broad including any firearm, part, or combination of parts designed to or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon as defined in the Act. For additional information, please refer to 720 ILCS 5/24-1.9(a)(1) and the ISP’s Assault Weapon Identification Guide.
Appendix A is not exhaustive but rather lists "assault weapons" that are eligible for the endorsement affidavit process and exemption. To ensure that any "assault weapon" (as defined by PICA) that was possessed on or before January 10, 2023, is incorporated into the endorsement affidavit process and exemption, the ISP mimicked the legislature’s language Since JCAR has never formally adopted "rules" we are stuck with the emergency rules defined by ISP. Doesn't look like there will be a definitive list at present. I am still of the opinion that they will not charge nor attempt to charge all of the non compliant. My opinion is that they will "cherry pick" a list of people who have royally opposed PICA and who are high profile within the gun community and single them out to be "made an example of". That would not gobble up huge resources. I'm of the opinion that there is a "list" of people to be slapped down and if they are going to enforce the law and if it begins, it will be in loyal Blue counties like Cook and Lake. Law enforcement agencies, including the ISP, are charged with enforcing the Protecting Illinois Communities Act throughout Illinois. ISP will continue to enforce the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act and Article 24 of the Criminal Code of 2012 by partnering with local law enforcement through our Violent Crime Intelligence Task Force. The task force is a collaborative effort to reduce and prevent illegal possession and use of firearms, firearm related homicides, and other violent crimes. All law enforcement officers will have access to the resources the ISP has made available to the public to ensure they are able to identify items regulated by the Protecting Illinois Communities Act. IMO. VooDoo "Appendix A is not exhaustive but rather lists "assault weapons" that are eligible for the endorsement affidavit process and exemption. To ensure that any "assault weapon" (as defined by PICA) that was possessed on or before January 10, 2023, is incorporated into the endorsement affidavit process and exemption, the ISP mimicked the legislature’s language" And that's what I'm talking about. The ISP is required by the law to issue an actual exhaustive list of what needs to be registered - they can't say to just look at the law and figure it out yourself, they are just pretending that they can. That very first question in their faq is evidence they themselves have not complied with their obligation. ETA: actual text of the law: (3) the make, model, caliber, and serial number of the .50 caliber rifle or assault weapon or assault weapons listed in paragraphs (J), (K), and (L) of subdivision (1) of subsection (a) of this Section possessed by the affiant prior to the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 102nd General Assembly and any assault weapons identified and published by the Illinois State Police pursuant to this subdivision (3). No later than October 1, 2023, and every October 1 thereafter, the Illinois State Police shall, via rulemaking, identify, publish, and make available on its website, the list of assault weapons subject to an endorsement affidavit under this subsection (d). The list shall identify, but is not limited to, the copies, duplicates, variants, and altered facsimiles of the assault weapons identified in paragraphs (J), (K), and (L) of subdivision (1) of subsection (a) of this Section and shall be consistent with the definition of "assault weapon" identified in this Section. The Illinois State Police may adopt emergency rulemaking in accordance with Section 5-45 of the Illinois Administrative Procedure Act. The adoption of emergency rules authorized by Section 5-45 of the Illinois Administrative Procedure Act and this paragraph is deemed to be necessary for the public interest, safety, and welfare.And some might say that emergency rulemaking section somehow absolves them of this, which I would disagree with but it is moot anyway as they have exactly 7 days where those are even in force. Sec. 5-45.35. Emergency rulemaking. To provide for the expeditious and timely implementation of this amendatory Act of the 102nd General Assembly, emergency rules implementing this amendatory Act of the 102nd General Assembly may be adopted in accordance with Section 5-45 by the Illinois State Police. The adoption of emergency rules authorized by Section 5-45 and this Section is deemed to be necessary for the public interest, safety, and welfare. This Section is repealed one year after the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 102nd General Assembly.
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