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Posted: 1/13/2017 2:51:51 PM EDT
I bought a passel of sand Gen M3 PMAGs and some Rit dye and went to town!
All of these recipes have a 5-minute soak, flipping the magazine over every 30-seconds in a Pyrex breadpan of just off the burner boiling water (except the 40-rounder with the orange). 
A close match to Cavalry Manufacturing's Purple/Grape is 1 teaspoon Purple, 2 teaspoons Aquamarine. 
Three capfuls of Dark Brown gives OD-Green. 
Zombie Green is 2 tablespoons and 2 teaspoons Lemon Yellow, 2 teaspoons Aquamarine. Dark Purple is 2 teaspoons Purple. Cavalry Manufacturing's Blue is 2 tablespoons Royal Blue. Forest Green is 2 tablespoons Dark Brown, 2 tablespoons Camel. Again
A nice Hunter Orange is 4 tablespoons of Tangerine into a 12x9 Pyrex pan. |
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Posted: 1/15/2017 7:21:58 PM EDT
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any one had luck un-dying?
i tried to get a stealth grey with rit pearl grey like others have successfully done but these came out denim blue. they actually look great in that color... just not what i was after. ive tried to over-dye them with black but they dont seem to want to take on anymore pigment. |
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Posted: 1/15/2017 9:36:42 PM EDT
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We're going to try the undying this week.
My buddy is aiming for a nice chocolate brown, and we have two green magazines from experiments. So we're going to try Rit's color remover and see what that does to them. |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 3:13:26 AM EDT
[#3]
The Rit Color Remover is more of a fader.
Start Point 
It looks promising... But after one hour: 
Then two: 
Coming soon: seeing if the faded green accepts other color well. |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 3:17:50 AM EDT
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This is Chocolate Brown, 1 tablespoon in a breadpan of water for about 2-3 minutes, as it compares to Damage Ind. SHTF Brown. 
This is 1 tablespoon Chocolate Brown, 1 teaspoon of Purple and 1/2 teaspoon of Aquamarine. In both cases the camera is making them seem lighter than they are. In person the stocks are about the same brown as the darker base in the second pic, |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 3:31:48 AM EDT
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1 tablespoon Chocolate Brown, 1 teaspoon Purple, 1 teaspoon Aquamarine.
Color as it actually appears to the eye: 
Near perfect match with SHTF Brown! |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 3:44:59 AM EDT
[#6]
Good news!
The faded green takes the new brown color very well! |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 12:20:54 PM EDT
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#1: 3 tablespoons Chocolate Brown. #2: 3 tablespoons Chocolate Brown, 1 teaspoon Purple, 1/2 teaspoon Aquamarine. #3: 3 tablespoons Chocolate Brown, 1 teaspoon Purple, 1 teaspoon Aquamarine. #4: Recipe #3 on the color removed magazine. #5: 3 tablespoons Chocolate Brown, 1 teaspoon Purple, 1 teaspoon Aquamarine, 1/2 teaspoon Emerald. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2017 1:29:26 AM EDT
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Would like to see a "zombie green" that is greener than the mags above. More like the Hogue Zombie-X grips. a I'd like to customize a few mags for my 3-gun rifle to match some of my other gear.
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Posted: 1/19/2017 9:02:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PatriotMRD:
Would like to see a "zombie green" that is greener than the mags above. More like the Hogue Zombie-X grips. a I'd like to customize a few mags for my 3-gun rifle to match some of my other gear. We've taken to cutting the base plates from a 5-pack of plates in half to experiment on. And the results of last night's experiments! We were trying to get close to Magpul's discontinued Foliage Green. All are using 4 cups of water in a breadpan and a 3-5 minute soak. 
1 teaspoon Camel, 1/2 teaspoon Emerald Green, 1/2 teaspoon Aquamarine. 
4 teaspoons Dark Green, 2 teaspoons Lemon Yellow. (Perhaps the greener zombie green you were thinking of?) 
1/2 teaspoon Pearl Gray, 1/2 teaspoon Dark Green. 
1-1/2 teaspoon Pearl Gray, 1/2 teaspoon Dark Green. 
2-1/2 teaspoon Pearl Gray, 1/2 teaspoon Dark Green. 
1-1/2 teaspoon Pearl Gray, 1/2 teaspoon Camel. 8-10 minute soak. The tan above it is: 1/2 teaspoon Tangerine, 1/4 teaspoon Pearl Gray, 1/4 teaspoon Dark Green (Rit's official recipe for FDE). 
The last green-gray as compared to Foliage Green (right). I think I discovered Foliage Dark Earth, it's about halfway between FDE and FOL. |
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Posted: 1/19/2017 3:26:03 PM EDT
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I think I got Foliage Green figured out!
L to R 8-minute soak. 4 cups water. #1 1-1/2 tsp Pearl Gray, 1/2 tsp Taupe. Possible stealth gray? #2 1-1/2 tsp Pearl Gray, 3/4 tsp Taupe. Possible stealth gray? #3 1-1/2 tsp Pearl Gray, 3/4 tsp Taupe, 1/4 tsp Camel. #4 1-1/2 tsp Pearl Gray, 1/2 tsp Camel. "Foliage Dark Earth" from above To shorten the soak time I increased the best match (#3) to: 1 tbsp Pearl Gray, 1-1/2 tsp Taupe, 1/4 tsp Camel. This comes out a bit too green, but if you take any out, it's too gray. Can't win. 
I need to work on my consistency. |
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Posted: 1/20/2017 1:17:34 AM EDT
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Do you have any info on matching a sand Pmag to the Coyote Brown of the ACR? I've found some recipes online, but they use FDE Pmags as a starting point.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2017 2:48:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
We've taken to cutting the base plates from a 5-pack of plates in half to experiment on. https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/328/32282054991_e06092effb_b.jpg 4 teaspoons Dark Green, 2 teaspoons Lemon Yellow. (Perhaps the greener zombie green you were thinking of?) That's a lot closer to what I was thinking. Considering that you aren't starting with a pure white base material and it's a dye not a coating. When I can, I might experiment with the base pads to fine tune it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2017 4:09:54 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm just interested in what rit dye or mix of rit dyes gets closes to magpul's pink.
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Posted: 1/20/2017 6:19:28 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Locutus494:
Do you have any info on matching a sand Pmag to the Coyote Brown of the ACR? I've found some recipes online, but they use FDE Pmags as a starting point. Not yet, but I think that Magpul is going to make them that color later this year anyways. |
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Posted: 1/20/2017 6:21:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By costanza:
I'm just interested in what rit dye or mix of rit dyes gets closes to magpul's pink. So far... knock on wood. Rit's browns are really greens. The blacks and grays are really blues. Other colors appear to be honest. Getting zombie green and the grape colors were just like the color guide said they'd be. |
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Posted: 1/20/2017 10:27:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: costanza]
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Posted: 1/20/2017 10:52:20 PM EDT
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That article is where we started this adventure.
While interesting (and inspiring), it didn't help much with finding a color they didn't test straight. Rit also makes a lot more colors than they tested, like Lemon Yellow. |
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Posted: 1/20/2017 11:07:38 PM EDT
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The fact that they didn't put stock magpul furniture in the photos for comparison makes me go
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:37:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Z09SS]
[#19]
Whups, replying about the wrong "they".
Edit: 
I confirmed that doubling the dye means you halve the soak time with the 20-rounder. The dust cap was 1-1/2 tsp Pearl Gray and 1/2 tsp Taupe for 8 minutes, the magazine is 1 tbsp Pearl Gray and 1 tsp Taupe for 4 minutes. I don't have anything Stealth Gray to compare it with, but the picture comes out on my computer the same as my eyes see it. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:04:11 PM EDT
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Are you using the powder or liquid?
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USA
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Posted: 1/21/2017 9:02:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
Not yet, but I think that Magpul is going to make them that color later this year anyways. No, the medium coyote tan is a different color from FDE and coyote brown altogether. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:57:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Z09SS]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PatriotMRD:
Are you using the powder or liquid? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PatriotMRD:
Are you using the powder or liquid? Liquid. Originally Posted By Locutus494:
No, the medium coyote tan is a different color from FDE and coyote brown altogether. And of course their Coyote is different.... Sigh! |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:05:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
Liquid. And of course their Coyote is different.... Sigh! Thanks. Already getting ideas for dyeing 3-gun mags for myself and a couple of my shooting buddies. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2017 5:03:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
Liquid. And of course their Coyote is different.... Sigh! Yeah, it's a bummer that it's different than coyote brown. However, MCT is the color the military specified so you can't blame Magpul for that one. Apparently, the Army now has a requirement that all new small arms programs be made in the medium coyote tan color. Really, we should be glad they are releasing it at all; Magpul could have just made it for the military and not released it commercially. Or the military could have even asked Magpul not to sell it, kind of like what the Marine Corps did with Colt and the Colt custom shop M45A1. |
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Posted: 1/26/2017 5:29:02 AM EDT
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Damage Ind. SHTF Brown, final formula:
3 Tbsp of Chocolate Brown, 1-1/2 tsp Graphite, 1 tsp of Purple and 1 tsp of Aquamarine. 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:05:09 AM EDT
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The AK is not safe from my depredations!
That's 1 tbsp Harvest, 1/2 tsp Cherry Red and 1/4 tsp Black into 2 quarts of water. We varied the soak time and temperature to get matches of the whole range of AKM "bakelite". At some of the cooler temperatures the color is uneven and comes even closer to the genuine Soviet article. |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2017 8:30:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Wolverine08]
[#27]
Any good formulas for Plum? I remember seeing a couple nice ones done just don't remember any formula. I know I could search through some more threads but was reading this one anyways so figured I would ask in case you knew. The plum I am talking about is like comes on AK furniture either the lighter K-Var US made Plum or the darker Russian Plum would both look great to me. While searching for pictures of Plum AR I found a place called Echo 93 that does the set for you at a cost. I haven't ever messed with Rit Dye but don't see it being too complicated and would like to give it a go myself if I can get the Plum look that they achieved.
A picture ripped from one of their sets, I absolutely love this look - 
It would be for the FDE MOE furniture since I believe that is what takes it best. An odd question though, have you ever tried using Rit Dye on black furniture/mags? I wouldn't be too surprised if you could get a really dark plum hue from using the purple or another shade on the Magpul Black. All I have at the moment are black sets, but will definitely be getting FDE to try this out if you know of a formula that works. Thanks for your time! |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2017 3:00:05 PM EDT
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I got plum by using FDE furniture as a base and black rit dye.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolverine08:
Any good formulas for Plum? I remember seeing a couple nice ones done just don't remember any formula. I know I could search through some more threads but was reading this one anyways so figured I would ask in case you knew. The plum I am talking about is like comes on AK furniture either the lighter K-Var US made Plum or the darker Russian Plum would both look great to me. While searching for pictures of Plum AR I found a place called Echo 93 that does the set for you at a cost. I haven't ever messed with Rit Dye but don't see it being too complicated and would like to give it a go myself if I can get the Plum look that they achieved. A picture ripped from one of their sets, I absolutely love this look - http://jerkingthetrigger.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/e93-plum-AR.jpg It would be for the FDE MOE furniture since I believe that is what takes it best. An odd question though, have you ever tried using Rit Dye on black furniture/mags? I wouldn't be too surprised if you could get a really dark plum hue from using the purple or another shade on the Magpul Black. All I have at the moment are black sets, but will definitely be getting FDE to try this out if you know of a formula that works. Thanks for your time! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2017 3:00:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jdchen0407]
[#29]
like my creation? =) |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 3:14:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jdchen0407:
like my creation? =) Sweet! How did you pull it off? Wax? |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 11:33:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
Whups, replying about the wrong "they". Edit: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/351/32061807220_ee3b9286ab_b.jpg I confirmed that doubling the dye means you halve the soak time with the 20-rounder. The dust cap was 1-1/2 tsp Pearl Gray and 1/2 tsp Taupe for 8 minutes, the magazine is 1 tbsp Pearl Gray and 1 tsp Taupe for 4 minutes. I don't have anything Stealth Gray to compare it with, but the picture comes out on my computer the same as my eyes see it. Any more photos? Perhaps in daylight or on a dark background? |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:36:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By danpass:
Those look pretty damn good to mimic 'teflon grey'. Any more photos? Perhaps in daylight or on a dark background? 
I dialed the exposure back a little for this one. 
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:43:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2922/33116122264_c0728c71e5_b.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2866/33116120444_34593956e7_b.jpg I dialed the exposure back a little for this one. https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2806/33116119284_248070dd8b_b.jpg |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 5:34:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By danpass:
Nice. And that's the "1-1/2 tsp Pearl Gray and 1/2 tsp Taupe for 8 minutes" ? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:34:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
1 tbsp Pearl Gray and 1 tsp Taupe for 4 minutes |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 4:26:51 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seant8:
How much water? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seant8:
Originally Posted By Z09SS:
1 tbsp Pearl Gray and 1 tsp Taupe for 4 minutes |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 12/14/2017 10:54:03 AM EDT
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I have a K2 grip on the way that I want to dye to match AK shellac finish. I am thinking either cocoa or harvest. Are you heating water directly in the pyrex dish or pouring in boiling/simmering water from a different pot/kettle?
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Posted: 12/14/2017 2:12:08 PM EDT
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Pouring boiling water.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2017 11:44:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
Pouring boiling water. |
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Posted: 12/17/2017 3:22:42 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
Pyrex breadpan full. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
Originally Posted By seant8:
Originally Posted By Z09SS: 1 tbsp Pearl Gray and 1 tsp Taupe for 4 minutes |
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Posted: 12/17/2017 10:05:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jimbo45:
Pic of breadpan, and how much water you are putting in the pan? Full is a relative term. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jimbo45:
Originally Posted By Z09SS:
Originally Posted By seant8:
Originally Posted By Z09SS: 1 tbsp Pearl Gray and 1 tsp Taupe for 4 minutes 
Even being relatively imprecise with the volume hasn't affected the color between magazines or batches. |
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Posted: 12/24/2017 10:16:41 AM EDT
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Has anyone figured out Foliage green?
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Posted: 12/24/2017 3:05:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Z09SS]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boxer4u:
Has anyone figured out Foliage green? Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 12/25/2017 12:23:13 AM EDT
[#44]
Training mags I did up for FoF rounds.......
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Posted: 12/26/2017 2:52:20 PM EDT
[#45]
Awesome!
Thanks Z09SS Pretty close match? Is that with cold or warm water? Not sure if it matters |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 7:04:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Z09SS]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boxer4u:
Awesome! Thanks Z09SS Pretty close match? Is that with cold or warm water? Not sure if it matters 
Matches well enough with Magpul's handguards, Damage Inc's grip and BCM's stock. Hot! Water. Just barely boiling from the kettle and dumped into the pan. We even pre heat the pan with hottest we can get from the tap as well. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 1:22:54 AM EDT
[#47]
Magpul still makes baseplates in sand so you can do some personalizing of your any color you want as long as it's black magazines.
I made some zombie green plates for my AK-74 mags. Makes the rounds more effective on zombies. It is known. Made a foliage green Gen 3 window mag too, just for fun! |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 1:43:34 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
Magpul still makes baseplates in sand so you can do some personalizing of your any color you want as long as it's black magazines. https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4778/39042310290_0d44c41c10_b.jpg I made some zombie green plates for my AK-74 mags. Makes the rounds more effective on zombies. It is known. Made a foliage green Gen 3 window mag too, just for fun! |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 2:17:04 PM EDT
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Breadpan of just off the stove boiling water.
2 tablespoons and 2 teaspoons Lemon Yellow. 2 teaspoons of Aquamarine. Let sit until you get the shade you want, about 4-8 minutes. Recently I found you have to shake the Aquamarine very well if it's been sitting! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/20/2018 1:19:29 AM EDT
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I have an FDE shotgun stock that I want to OD Green. I've done one before but didn't turn out green enough, was more brown. I saw that using 3 capfulls of dark brown gives an OD Green on the sand mags pretty close to magpul OD, would the same work on FDE?
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