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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:28:10 AM EDT
Anywhere I can get antibiotics without a prescription?
I have a feral cat that lost an eye a couple years ago. He got pretty bad off due to an infection in the wound and sinus. I put ivermectin and tetracycline powder in soft food and in a couple weeks he was good as new minus an eye. He’s lost weight I’m assuming because of parasites and appears to have a respiratory infection. He’s eating much better and in a much better mood after a few days of Ivermectin, but I need something (Amoxicillin?) for the respiratory infection. Taking him to a vet is not an option (feral) |
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Do you use a vet for other pets? I'd talk to that vet, explain the situation, and see if they'll write the script.
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[#2]
The government has really cracked down on animal antibiotic availability without prescription this year. Pretty sure you'll need a vet to call it in. Might have better luck with a farmer or rural vet that is used to dealing with house calls and farmers taking care of their own animals.
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[#3]
Thanks y’all. I was afraid of that. I’ll got a Dr. that might do me a favor, but don’t know a vet that won’t cost me a $165. I’ll see if the doc will call me something in.
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[#4]
Probably best for the cat and the environment to just put it down.
This isn’t even trolling this is my serious reply. 1) government has cracked down on just getting antibiotics for animals 2) it’s feral it should be treated no differently than a coyote 3) Giving it different antibiotics than what is needed for its specific infection will just fuck it even more. |
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Born with a low tolerance for bullshit
KY, USA
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[#5]
Originally Posted By TAG_Match: Thanks y’all. I was afraid of that. I’ll got a Dr. that might do me a favor, but don’t know a vet that won’t cost me a $165. I’ll see if the doc will call me something in. View Quote $165? Make connections with a large animal vet. We take all of our animals to a vet who does large and small animals because they are not as "foo foo" and don't charge anywhere near that for a visit, and if you have a relationship with them, they'd sell you something no problem. They are generally more practical, too. They do not expect us to clean the teeth of every animal we own once a week. Our vet is $42 for an office visit. I never heard of a vet who charged $165 for an office visit, but I'm sure those probably exist. We trap our ferals and take them in for their shots, get them neutered/spayed, etc. After that, the vets just give me what I need for the cost of the drug for any I can't easily bring in. We have one who lives in the house, but no way can we get him in a crate to bring him. Our vets work out whatever we need for him, to be given at home. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: $165? Make connections with a large animal vet. We take all of our animals to a vet who does large and small animals because they are not as "foo foo" and don't charge anywhere near that for a visit, and if you have a relationship with them, they'd sell you something no problem. They are generally more practical, too. They do not expect us to clean the teeth of every animal we own once a week. Our vet is $42 for an office visit. I never heard of a vet who charged $165 for an office visit, but I'm sure those probably exist. We trap our ferals and take them in for their shots, get them neutered/spayed, etc. After that, the vets just give me what I need for the cost of the drug for any I can't easily bring in. We have one who lives in the house, but no way can we get him in a crate to bring him. Our vets work out whatever we need for him, to be given at home. View Quote This is the way. No way I’d try to administer antibiotics and guess. It’s so important to get it right and have a professional look at it. I trapped my cat which was on the brink of becoming feral and saved it. Lives inside now. It had an infection that my neighbor tried to treat. Was fungal the whole time and now because of it, the cat is pretty much anti biotic resistant. |
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[#7]
Seems like you somewhat care about the well-being of the animal. Buy a live trap, capture the cat and take it to vet for shots and treatment.
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[#8]
The wife and I have gotten into fixing and caring for several ferals over the last 18 months. They live in our back yard and are friendly from a distance. We can't touch them.
I have had to catch them several times through various methods to get them antibiotic injections to treat a number of small injuries. I always take them in a feral cat cage / raccoon cage and they just inject them while they are still in there. Or knock them out if a full exam is needed. If they are too smart for the feral cage youll need to get creative. Cornering them and tossing a towel over their head has worked for us. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: $165? Make connections with a large animal vet. We take all of our animals to a vet who does large and small animals because they are not as "foo foo" and don't charge anywhere near that for a visit, and if you have a relationship with them, they'd sell you something no problem. They are generally more practical, too. They do not expect us to clean the teeth of every animal we own once a week. Our vet is $42 for an office visit. I never heard of a vet who charged $165 for an office visit, but I'm sure those probably exist. We trap our ferals and take them in for their shots, get them neutered/spayed, etc. After that, the vets just give me what I need for the cost of the drug for any I can't easily bring in. We have one who lives in the house, but no way can we get him in a crate to bring him. Our vets work out whatever we need for him, to be given at home. View Quote Thanks! That actually jiggled my brain that I have access to a feral cat program locally that could help me out. I’ll also cultivate a relationship with a farm vet. I really appreciate it. |
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KY, USA
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Originally Posted By StillGonnaSendIt: This is the way. No way I’d try to administer antibiotics and guess. It’s so important to get it right and have a professional look at it. I trapped my cat which was on the brink of becoming feral and saved it. Lives inside now. It had an infection that my neighbor tried to treat. Was fungal the whole time and now because of it, the cat is pretty much anti biotic resistant. View Quote Oh, I have absolutely ZERO problem administering antibiotics. I know the formula for the ones I keep here (the vet sends home bottles for me, rather than doses just for one cat, cuz we rescue and need it all the time. Keeps him from having to come in on the weekends for emergencies.) BUT...that right there is also the reason for the relationship with the vet. The vet taught me how to administer. We not only give antibiotics, we hydrate with Ringer's when they need hydration (think IV fluids, but they are not IV they are SubQ), we give anti-emetic when they are barfing. We give steroids and NSAIDs as needed. All because we have that kind of relationship with our vet. And if we have questions about dosing or anything, we just text the vet on call. HOWEVER, I think it's well worth the money and time to trap/alter/treat and release the animals at least the first time, for their own good, and so I have that relationship. However, if a basic vet visit cost me $165, that would change the equation and how I handle things. Sometimes I could do that. There have been times I could not. |
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Originally Posted By Earax: The wife and I have gotten into fixing and caring for several ferals over the last 18 months. They live in our back yard and are friendly from a distance. We can't touch them. I have had to catch them several times through various methods to get them antibiotic injections to treat a number of small injuries. I always take them in a feral cat cage / raccoon cage and they just inject them while they are still in there. Or knock them out if a full exam is needed. If they are too smart for the feral cage youll need to get creative. Cornering them and tossing a towel over their head has worked for us. View Quote Yeah that’s the problem. I trapped him the first time I saved his life. He won’t let me do it again. |
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KY, USA
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Originally Posted By TAG_Match: Thanks! That actually jiggled my brain that I have access to a feral cat program locally that could help me out. I’ll also cultivate a relationship with a farm vet. I really appreciate it. View Quote FYI, it's worth a look at your local farm and feed store, in the cooler, to see if there is ANY antibiotic left there. Last fall I got a bottle of Oxytetracycline --the last bottle they had--and I still have that. They were selling out their supply because the law changed and they can't sell it anymore. You might luck out. It's worth a stop. (This is useful only if you can catch the cat and give the cat a shot.) ETA: You will find that whatever vet you choose, respects you for getting him altered and cared for that first time, and will be more willing to work with you. It's harder when they've been trapped before. My husband sits out there for hours, earning their trust (only to betray it when we slam that crate door) but not everybody can do that. |
Nobody ever wakes me at 2 in the morning telling me that my grass is out on the highway.~~Radiopat
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe |
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Originally Posted By StillGonnaSendIt: Probably best for the cat and the environment to just put it down. This isn’t even trolling this is my serious reply. 1) government has cracked down on just getting antibiotics for animals 2) it’s feral it should be treated no differently than a coyote 3) Giving it different antibiotics than what is needed for its specific infection will just fuck it even more. View Quote So you are going to tell me to be a friend of the environment by treating a cat that I’ve cared for and fed for two years by killing it like a wild predator? And you’re not trolling? Have you by chance, in a clinical setting heard yourself described as “on the spectrum”? If not, that would mean that you are in fact trolling. Regardless, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from “helping” me in the future. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: FYI, it's worth a look at your local farm and feed store, in the cooler, to see if there is ANY antibiotic left there. Last fall I got a bottle of Oxytetracycline --the last bottle they had--and I still have that. They were selling out their supply because the law changed and they can't sell it anymore. You might luck out. It's worth a stop. (This is useful only if you can catch the cat and give the cat a shot.) ETA: You will find that whatever vet you choose, respects you for getting him altered and cared for that first time, and will be more willing to work with you. It's harder when they've been trapped before. My husband sits out there for hours, earning their trust (only to betray it when we slam that crate door) but not everybody can do that. View Quote Very good advice. I really appreciate it. I dosed his last infection with tetracycline powder for administering to poultry in their water. I still have some but my research said it’s hard on their tummies and I’m trying to get him to put on some weight. |
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Born with a low tolerance for bullshit
KY, USA
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@TAG_match
You also need to understand Feline Herpes. Your cat probably has it. It's a virus. It manifests (usually) as a chronic "cold and sinus issue" Like the fever blisters you (maybe) get when you have a cold. The trouble is, when it flares, it often develops into a secondary bacterial infection. It really screws with the cat's immune system. THE ONLY THING YOU CAN TREAT WITH ANTIBIOTIC is the secondary bacterial infection. The antibiotic does NOTHING for a virus. HOWEVER: If you can give a Lysine supplement like these Enisyl it will really help his immune system. I give it when I see the symptoms flare. Snotty, sneezing, acting like he feels bad. I give it for like three or four days, and it supports the immune system and helps them fight it. So he may very well have a sinus infection. But he may also have feline herpes. (It's everywhere and there is no cure. All of ours have it. We brought it into the population in a cat who had ZERO symptoms and had been quarantined for three months. The vet was convinced she was fine. She wasn't. So we live with it.) Another reason to get him caught and checked if you can, but if you can't, just know there are resources to help him beyond the antibiotics (which you DO need if he has a bacterial infection.) Okay that's a hell of a ramble. Did that make any sense? |
Nobody ever wakes me at 2 in the morning telling me that my grass is out on the highway.~~Radiopat
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe |
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@Kitties-with-siggs
Yes! That makes lots of sense! I really appreciate it. I will stop by the health food store and see if they have it. It not I’ll order off of Amazon. Thanks again for your advice. |
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KY, USA
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Originally Posted By TAG_Match: @Kitties-with-siggs Yes! That makes lots of sense! I really appreciate it. I will stop by the health food store and see if they have it. It not I’ll order off of Amazon. Thanks again for your advice. View Quote Doubt they will have at human health food store, but maybe. |
Nobody ever wakes me at 2 in the morning telling me that my grass is out on the highway.~~Radiopat
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe |
[#18]
Talk to your local vet. They will need to write you a VFD (prescription). It gets sent to the store, I recommend Vally Vet. VFD is good for a year, order away. LA300 is my go too.
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It seems that you can still get fish mox and such from some American suppliers if you google it, you'll have to look through to see if you think if they look reputable enough, the place where I got it last time is trying to get FDA approval, apparently, so I dont really have a specific recommendation. Theres also outside the US options, like alldaychemist. I've never used any of those, but a lot of people have for other things.
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