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Today the daughter (4yo) and i started all the tomatoes, jalapenoes and herbs for the garden.
Should have enough to do plenty of tomato plants and give away any if i have too many. I have them in a heated garage set to 65 and on a heat mat. When they come up i have a couple grow lights. They should be getting pretty big by may when i put them out. Attached File |
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Average last frost date here is May 15th. Last year buying plants was expensive about $5 each. Figure it will be higher this year.
For $3 worth of seeds I can start several varieties and hopefully have enough for 2 years. Going to start them in the next couple weeks. |
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Grow light $17
Heat mat $10 Trays and peat pots $30 Seed $35 will have enough for next year for most things. Got Cherry tomato Yellow plum tomato Cherokee tomato Black krim tomato Amish paste tomato Zebra tomato Beefsteak tomato Jalapeno Basil Rosemary Thyme Cilantro So we should be good on salsa and pasta sauce... |
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Looking forward to it myself. I start ours around the middle of March and transplant them into the garden around the first weekend in May. (Derby day in Kentucky)
I used to start the seeds in the little peat pellets then transplant to a small peat pot after the second true leaf. Now I start them in Solo cups with drain holes in the bottom. I leave them in the cups all the way through hardening for transplanting to the garden. Have you started tomatoes from seeds before? Lots of light, air moving across them and some cool temperatures when they about 2 weeks past true leaves has helped me to keep them from getting leggy. |
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Originally Posted By Bulldog8: Looking forward to it myself. I start ours around the middle of March and transplant them into the garden around the first weekend in May. (Derby day in Kentucky) I used to start the seeds in the little peat pellets then transplant to a small peat pot after the second true leaf. Now I start them in Solo cups with drain holes in the bottom. I leave them in the cups all the way through hardening for transplanting to the garden. Have you started tomatoes from seeds before? Lots of light, air moving across them and some cool temperatures when they about 2 weeks past true leaves has helped me to keep them from getting leggy. View Quote I have not. I had planned on repotting them to pot i can sit outside on nicer days this spring. Maybe i dont need to repot. Just set outside |
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I plan to do bucket maters this year.
I haven't done this in years, and I am interested to see your progression. If I keep my seeds at 70 or above, would I need a heat mat? Thanks |
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Spinach and lettuce are already sprouting in the raised bed.
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Originally Posted By wildearp: I plan to do bucket maters this year. I haven't done this in years, and I am interested to see your progression. If I keep my seeds at 70 or above, would I need a heat mat? Thanks View Quote Im guessing you would be fine. Plus its still getting cold here. We should have another cold snap next week and usually get our last freeze sometime just before memorial day |
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Originally Posted By wildearp: I plan to do bucket maters this year. I haven't done this in years, and I am interested to see your progression. If I keep my seeds at 70 or above, would I need a heat mat? Thanks View Quote I have a couple of pots slightly bigger than 5 gallon buckets. I have them at the base of my deck steps each year with maters. Also some in the flower beds with peppers. Works great each year. You have to water them more since its raised. |
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I picked about a quart and a half of cherry tomatoes tonight. They are starting to come in bigger groups now. This may hold for a few days before I have more to pick.
My regular tomatoes are just starting to ripen. I'm hoping to have enough ripen at the same time to can some to go with the next crop of Okra. So far only three are turning. There are a LOT on the vines. All some sort of beefsteak variety. All determinate. I tried staking them up and using cages, but they just got too big and heavy. Packet said to just let them go. No pruning needed. We'll see how that goes. Next time I think I'm going to do indeterminate and try to get them to climb. I like the looks of some of them on a trellis where there seems to be a vine with minimal leaves at the top and a lot of tomatoes. Attached File I need to learn how to prune.... (that's an image I stole, not mine) |
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Originally Posted By Landshark9025: I picked about a quart and a half of cherry tomatoes tonight. They are starting to come in bigger groups now. This may hold for a few days before I have more to pick. My regular tomatoes are just starting to ripen. I'm hoping to have enough ripen at the same time to can some to go with the next crop of Okra. So far only three are turning. There are a LOT on the vines. All some sort of beefsteak variety. All determinate. I tried staking them up and using cages, but they just got too big and heavy. Packet said to just let them go. No pruning needed. We'll see how that goes. Next time I think I'm going to do indeterminate and try to get them to climb. I like the looks of some of them on a trellis where there seems to be a vine with minimal leaves at the top and a lot of tomatoes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/365808/indeterminate-tomato-variety-1403423-03--3139183.JPG I need to learn how to prune.... (that's an image I stole, not mine) View Quote I am planning to do squash on a trellis. Should make finding the squash easier before its gianormous |
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Originally Posted By tveddy: I am planning to do squash on a trellis. Should make finding the squash easier before its gianormous View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tveddy: Originally Posted By Landshark9025: I picked about a quart and a half of cherry tomatoes tonight. They are starting to come in bigger groups now. This may hold for a few days before I have more to pick. My regular tomatoes are just starting to ripen. I'm hoping to have enough ripen at the same time to can some to go with the next crop of Okra. So far only three are turning. There are a LOT on the vines. All some sort of beefsteak variety. All determinate. I tried staking them up and using cages, but they just got too big and heavy. Packet said to just let them go. No pruning needed. We'll see how that goes. Next time I think I'm going to do indeterminate and try to get them to climb. I like the looks of some of them on a trellis where there seems to be a vine with minimal leaves at the top and a lot of tomatoes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/365808/indeterminate-tomato-variety-1403423-03--3139183.JPG I need to learn how to prune.... (that's an image I stole, not mine) I am planning to do squash on a trellis. Should make finding the squash easier before its gianormous |
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Originally Posted By Landshark9025: Cool. My next set of cucumbers I'm going to try a trellis. For some reason I keep getting anthracnose. It just follows the vine. I have some cantaloupe and watermelon going now and I hope I avoid it. View Quote Its dry enough here that i have never heard of that. We dont have much fungus problems |
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I started tomatoes, peppers (jalapeños and bells), eggplant, lemon basil, parsley, and oregano yesterday.
They are in seed starting trays on a heat mat in a greenhouse. So plenty of light and there are circulation fans running 24/7 and exhaust fans that come on when it gets hot to expose them to moving air. This is my first time starting from seeds indoors so it will be a learning experience. Hopefully I can keep them watered enough without over watering. I’ll transfer them to 4” pots and/or solo cups at some point. Plan to put them in the garden around 5/1. If These do good I’ll have plenty to give away. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog: I started tomatoes, peppers (jalapeños and bells), eggplant, lemon basil, parsley, and oregano yesterday. They are in seed starting trays on a heat mat in a greenhouse. So plenty of light and there are circulation fans running 24/7 and exhaust fans that come on when it gets hot to expose them to moving air. This is my first time starting from seeds indoors so it will be a learning experience. Hopefully I can keep them watered enough without over watering. I’ll transfer them to 4” pots and/or solo cups at some point. Plan to put them in the garden around 5/1. If These do good I’ll have plenty to give away. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/image_jpg-3139609.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/image_jpg-3139612.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/image_jpg-3139613.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/D52AE260-E0DB-4824-9B0F-3D80BEA50BB0_jpe-3139620.JPG View Quote Thats a heck of a setup |
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I may have missed it but is anybody using heirloom seeds?
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Originally Posted By Bulldog8: Looking forward to it myself. I start ours around the middle of March and transplant them into the garden around the first weekend in May. (Derby day in Kentucky) I used to start the seeds in the little peat pellets then transplant to a small peat pot after the second true leaf. Now I start them in Solo cups with drain holes in the bottom. I leave them in the cups all the way through hardening for transplanting to the garden. Have you started tomatoes from seeds before? Lots of light, air moving across them and some cool temperatures when they about 2 weeks past true leaves has helped me to keep them from getting leggy. View Quote Thank you for this post. Mine got way too leggy last year. I also use solo cups. I prefer the clear (colored) so I can see the roots. Weird I know but kind of cool to see the bottoms fill up with roots. |
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog: I started tomatoes, peppers (jalapeños and bells), eggplant, lemon basil, parsley, and oregano yesterday. They are in seed starting trays on a heat mat in a greenhouse. So plenty of light and there are circulation fans running 24/7 and exhaust fans that come on when it gets hot to expose them to moving air. This is my first time starting from seeds indoors so it will be a learning experience. Hopefully I can keep them watered enough without over watering. I’ll transfer them to 4” pots and/or solo cups at some point. Plan to put them in the garden around 5/1. If These do good I’ll have plenty to give away. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/image_jpg-3139609.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/image_jpg-3139612.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/image_jpg-3139613.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/D52AE260-E0DB-4824-9B0F-3D80BEA50BB0_jpe-3139620.JPG View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By tveddy: Thats a heck of a setup View Quote View Quote Thanks, I just get to use one little corner. The rest belongs to my wife’s orchid growing operation. This is the other greenhouse. Not an inch to spare out there. Attached File |
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I started peppers a month ago, they are just starting to sprout.
I started tomatoes today. |
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog: Thanks, I just get to use one little corner. The rest belongs to my wife’s orchid growing operation. This is the other greenhouse. Not an inch to spare out there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/image_jpg-3139675.JPG View Quote I wish your wife would do a youtube channel about growing orchids. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: I wish your wife would do a youtube channel about growing orchids. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Originally Posted By TN-MadDog: Thanks, I just get to use one little corner. The rest belongs to my wife’s orchid growing operation. This is the other greenhouse. Not an inch to spare out there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/image_jpg-3139675.JPG I wish your wife would do a youtube channel about growing orchids. She might do that someday although there are probably plenty already out there. She has gotten pretty good at it and knows a lot about it. I'm mainly the manual labor. The breeding/hybridizing is the complicated and difficult part. The rest is really pretty easy. |
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Got a little white mold on the peat pots so they are now uncovered. Probably should have uncovered them earlier. Everything is starting to sprout
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My plants are looking pretty good. I’m going to transplant them to some 4” pots that we have. Any suggestions on when to transfer?
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I'm pissed off that my jalape os haven't arrived yet. I wanted to plant stronger plants when the frost was gone. My Roma are behind as well.
I'm not doing a great variety. 2, maybe 3 varieties of cherry tomatoes, and Roma. I'm going to sun-dry them. Growing some habe ero for the wife. |
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I got my seeds off amazon.
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog: My plants are looking pretty good. I’m going to transplant them to some 4” pots that we have. Any suggestions on when to transfer? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/7DC0D743-31F9-448E-BE03-9CB37675ACCD_jpe-3152424.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/F7C8911D-5F99-45C9-B8FA-5B3485148EA3_jpe-3152425.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/28F47331-2C63-40A1-BF6B-7E1CA5E3A0F4_jpe-3152427.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/A775C836-5820-4BAF-8813-6E1165818134_jpe-3152428.JPG View Quote I usually shift my cell starts up to a 4" pot once I can pull them put of the cell easily. Here in East TN, I don't put them in the ground until 5/15 at the earliest. |
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Originally Posted By mohawk17: I usually shift my cell starts up to a 4" pot once I can pull them put of the cell easily. Here in East TN, I don't put them in the ground until 5/15 at the earliest. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mohawk17: Originally Posted By TN-MadDog: My plants are looking pretty good. I’m going to transplant them to some 4” pots that we have. Any suggestions on when to transfer? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/7DC0D743-31F9-448E-BE03-9CB37675ACCD_jpe-3152424.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/F7C8911D-5F99-45C9-B8FA-5B3485148EA3_jpe-3152425.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/28F47331-2C63-40A1-BF6B-7E1CA5E3A0F4_jpe-3152427.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/A775C836-5820-4BAF-8813-6E1165818134_jpe-3152428.JPG I usually shift my cell starts up to a 4" pot once I can pull them put of the cell easily. Here in East TN, I don't put them in the ground until 5/15 at the earliest. I ended up watching some videos and got a good idea about when to transfer. Did a few and decided it was too soon Will be doing some today that have gotten pretty big I was thinking about planting around 5/1 but will decide based on the weather forecast at the time Starting to think I started my seeds too soon. Hopefully they will do ok. |
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I can remember growing up in TN. Dad would never plant a garden till after Good Friday. Granted most were planted from seed. Tomatoes were always store bought plants about 12 inches tall.
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Anyone have a good way to control gnats when growing indoors? I am getting overrun by them.
I have some sticky traps but they aren’t controlling the population very well. Spray? |
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I started my tomatoes yesterday and normally transplant them to the garden the first weekend on May. (Meade County KY)
36 Solo cups, Cherokee Purple, Dolly Parton, Sun Sugar and Black Plumb. We normally have 45 tomato plants in the garden with our starts and the remaining a mix of hybrids that we buy. |
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Originally Posted By ZW17: Anyone have a good way to control gnats when growing indoors? I am getting overrun by them. I have some sticky traps but they aren’t controlling the population very well. Spray? View Quote Airflow, like a fan, usually helps, and keeping the surface of the soil a little less damp. Are you talking about seedlings? or full grow indoors? |
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog: I ended up watching some videos and got a good idea about when to transfer. Did a few and decided it was too soon Will be doing some today that have gotten pretty big I was thinking about planting around 5/1 but will decide based on the weather forecast at the time Starting to think I started my seeds too soon. Hopefully they will do ok. View Quote If you haven't already, read about the hardening off process. Don't put them straight out into the sun. You will cook them. |
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What is the best way to get those seedlings out of the small plastic starter cup to transplant?
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Originally Posted By CJ7365: What is the best way to get those seedlings out of the small plastic starter cup to transplant? View Quote I'm a newbie at this but I saw a few different methods on youtube videos. One was using a wide flat blade screw driver Another was using a wooden tongue depressor type stick A third was squeezing the bottom of the cup to push them out I've tried the screw driver and tongue depressor methods and both work ok. |
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog: I'm a newbie at this but I saw a few different methods on youtube videos. One was using a wide flat blade screw driver Another was using a wooden tongue depressor type stick A third was squeezing the bottom of the cup to push them out I've tried the screw driver and tongue depressor methods and both work ok. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TN-MadDog: Originally Posted By CJ7365: What is the best way to get those seedlings out of the small plastic starter cup to transplant? I'm a newbie at this but I saw a few different methods on youtube videos. One was using a wide flat blade screw driver Another was using a wooden tongue depressor type stick A third was squeezing the bottom of the cup to push them out I've tried the screw driver and tongue depressor methods and both work ok. Thanks for the tips. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Airflow, like a fan, usually helps, and keeping the surface of the soil a little less damp. Are you talking about seedlings? or full grow indoors? View Quote Thanks KwS. It’s seedlings in a grow tent. Tomatoes and peppers so far. I have a fan running 4x a day for 1hr. I water from the bottom up, water in a tray absorbed into the soil. The gnats are out of control. |
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This is my first time growing seedlings. They seem to be doing fair. Some were a bit leggy at first. I’m growing in a greenhouse without any supplemental light. We’ve had a lot of cloudy days so that hasn’t help. I’ve repotted all the tomatoes and most of the peppers. I have a few other odds and ends still in the seed trays.
Some were getting pretty so I fed them some epsom salts and then some fertilizer a few days later. I grew way too many thinking that I would lose a lot of them. Still a long ways to go till planting time. |
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Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly: I can remember growing up in TN. Dad would never plant a garden till after Good Friday. Granted most were planted from seed. Tomatoes were always store bought plants about 12 inches tall. View Quote We did potatoes, peas and cabbage earlier. The rest....we waited. Beets were early too, if I remember right, but not THAT early, and were started under a board. (My grandma would sow the beets right on top of the ground, then lay a board over them, and check after two or three days, and keep checking til she had germination, then remove the board.) |
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Originally Posted By ZW17: Thanks KwS. It’s seedlings in a grow tent. Tomatoes and peppers so far. I have a fan running 4x a day for 1hr. I water from the bottom up, water in a tray absorbed into the soil. The gnats are out of control. View Quote Some ideas: Try or not...pick anything that feels right to you. 1-I would give it more airflow. See if that helps. Like, can the fan be on low for three hours at a time? I don't know your setup. Honestly I would not be afraid to keep the fan on all the time, BUT...I think it will help the gnats ONLY if there is significant airflow. When I say "fan" I mean enough air to move my hair if I were standing among your plants. This will of course mean you have to adjust your watering, because additional airflow will dry out the soil faster. 2-You may need to adjust your watering, if the soil is damp all the time. 3-The gnats may be there or not, depending on the time of year you are starting. So if you have an ongoing operation, you may not need the same procedure in different seasons. 4-You could mix up a weak soap mix. Like a teaspoon to a tablespoon of dish soap (like DAWN ORIGINAL (ultra) --not one of the newer platinum or chem-heavy versions...ultra is what they use on the birds after oil spills. I don't want anything other than that.) Anyway...put it in a spray bottle of water and mist the SOIL. Not the plants, if you can help it, but try misting the soil with the soap. Start at the LOW END OF THE DOSAGE. Like a teaspoon per quart. Remember that baby plants are VERY tender and sensitive to any chemical. If I were going to do this, I would test it on like one end...one cell pack or two cups or....I'm sayin' test it. Make sense? Because you will not be able to keep it off of the plants 100 percent. But this is worth a try. Remember if you are spraying water onto the soil or misting the plants with anything, make sure the water is lukewarm. NOT hot. NOT COLD. Lukewarm. Like skin temp. |
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All my seedlings are now transplanted. Some look better than others but I have only lost a few.
I have way too many in any case. Attached File |
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I stopped at a local greenhouse and bought three large tomato plants cuz...I'm stupid like that.
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Originally Posted By ZW17: Ha, I end up buying a few every year from the local Amish greenhouses. It never fails once you walk in there it’s like magic, you can’t help but spend money on stuff you don’t need, but you want. I tuned up the fan to run 4hrs a day x 4 cycles, so a total of 16hrs. We will see if this calms the gnat issue. Thank for the advice. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_2697-3174096.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_2698-3174098.jpg View Quote Be certain to increase your watering. That air will dry them out. More sticky traps is moar bettah. Add some if you have them. ETA: If the light is telling the truth, you need a little nitrogen. Liquid fertilizer like miracle grow, diluted until yo almost can't see the blue color, spritzed on the leaves and the soil in a fine mist. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Be certain to increase your watering. That air will dry them out. More sticky traps is moar bettah. Add some if you have them. ETA: If the light is telling the truth, you need a little nitrogen. Liquid fertilizer like miracle grow, diluted until yo almost can't see the blue color, spritzed on the leaves and the soil in a fine mist. View Quote Since sprouting their second leaves, they have all started on a 5/5/5 diet. I see the yellowing going on too. |
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