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[#1]
Thank you. I for one appreciate all the testing you've done.
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Cincinnatus
“ Cats arent tactical, or very aggressive units.” Mettee |
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Cincinnatus
“ Cats arent tactical, or very aggressive units.” Mettee |
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I am on the learning curve when it comes to loading and shooting precision rounds. My lesson learned this week was courtesy of neck tension. I have dialed in my rifles favorite bto for this bullet but was experiencing fliers. I was suspicious of the neck tension because I could feel how loose it was when seating bullets. I changed my procedures and things have improved. My sd went down to 8.05 and the fliers have been eliminated.
Before: Attached File After: (group 1 includes a clean cold bore shot low left. The high right shot on group 3 was called, all me) Attached File Then I took it out to 600. Attached File On my best day I am probably a half inch shooter so I am pretty happy with this. |
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[#7]
Whatever happened with the Larue Stealth .556 barrel?
And thanks for an entertaining and informative thread. |
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Originally Posted By texashark: Whatever happened with the Larue Stealth .556 barrel? And thanks for an entertaining and informative thread. View Quote @texashark It was sold, as was the LT 6.5grendel barrel. I’d be happy to test them further but I don’t have anymore Lt’s besides the 6.5creed. Maybe I can summon the GAHTF to loan out a few uppers in the near future as I’m pretty sure there are some members with varying stealth barrel configurations. I do plan on trying to get some time with the Rock River and Rainier Ultramatch (barrel #2) this week if time permits. Trying to spin up a 22GT and another 6creed barrel for my competition rifles. Then I’ll be pretty busy till mid/late April with my match schedule, which is why I’m hopeful I’ll get some range time this week. |
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Compiled results have been added to page 1. The table isn’t complete, but it’s a start and should have been drafted months ago. The table includes the results, which page of the thread the test data can be found on as well as any comments that were noted.
I’ll work to have a separate table sorted by ammo/type correlating to the best group averages and the best averages overall. |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: Compiled results have been added to page 1. The table isn’t complete, but it’s a start and should have been drafted months ago. The table includes the results, which page of the thread the test data can be found on as well as any comments that were noted. I’ll work to have a separate table sorted by ammo/type correlating to the best group averages and the best averages overall. View Quote On the notes for the Krieger, you should point out the barrel was pulled because it was shot out. Also the previous owner accidentally shot steel tumbling pins down the barrel (confirmed with borescope) because he’s a retard. |
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[#12]
What a ridiculously helpful thread! I'm as new as one can be to this type of shooting and appreciate all the time and effort you've put into collecting and sharing! Thank you!
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
I’ve been focusing mostly on precision rimfire as of late, but when I saw that ADI ammo was available again, I decided to grab some to give it a try. https://i.imgur.com/lHYC9Dl.jpg Testing was initially done with my 223 bolt gun, just to get a baseline. This ammo typically averages in the 0.4-0.5moa range. This new lot, branded solely as ADI vs the previous Australian Outback, had moments of greatness followed by me scratching my head. I was almost convinced that the groups opening up was due to mirage, but I experienced similar fliers when testing with my AR’s without suppressors. Bolt Gun https://i.imgur.com/iwXIZfs.jpg AR Testing- 18” Rainier Arms Rock Creek / 18” Rainier Arms Match The New ADI 69smk experienced the same fliers that I noticed with my bolt gun, but they were much more pronounced. For the 18” Rock Creek testing, the groups started to tighten up after the initial group (Top Left). I’m not sure if this was due to fouling the barrel or just some really extreme variation in the ammo. A single group of the old AO ADI 69smk was fired from the 18” RA match. While extremely limited in the sample size, this was approximately 0.2moa better than what the new ADI ammo produced in my AR’s. https://i.imgur.com/6KdmL4Y.jpg After testing the New ADI in the RA rock creek, I grabbed some of my handloads to test/confirm since it’s warmer now than when I last loaded for that barrel. The handloads shot in the .49moa and .81moa range and were essentially absent of unexplained fliers. The first round of the 24.8gr charge was slightly high and the 24.9gr target being on the upper end leading out of the precision node. Pardon the cluttered target. https://i.imgur.com/MfjhrvL.jpg View Quote |
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[#15]
Looking forward to it!
I'm a huge 6mm fan and have been trying to keep up on the latest developments with the 6ARC. |
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[#17]
Looking good
How did the rifle function? |
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Originally Posted By sigman68: Looking good How did the rifle function? View Quote Very smooth and soft shooting even while adjusting the gas block (group 3). When I went to the 300yd range, I fired my 5 shots in well under 30seconds without using a brake or suppressor. It was very easy to keep it on or close to the target between shots. I did experience high “fliers” on the last round for groups 1/2, but I think that may be magazine related. I switched to a new mag for the last groups. I’ve also got a few anti tilt buffer tubes to try out as well. I’m curious if that will help with fliers with some mags/configurations. |
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How’s the Mega MML build working out?
I had the same Craddock Bartlien barrel that had wandering zero issues until I figured out the MML needs to be torqued much higher than normal. The barrel nut had backed out when using 40-50 ft/lb. Needed to go to 80. |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: Confirmatory testing with the 55blitzkings Rainier Arms 18” Rock Creek IMR 8208xbr ADI brass Cci 400 Vortex Venom 5-25 I chose the median charge between the previous best groups since they grouped decent and had no significant shift in POI. The 8rd group was intended to be 10, but there was a feeding issue with one of my magazines which dinged up two cases to the point I wasn’t willing to fire them. Avg. group size for all 3 groups, 18rds: .58moa. https://i.imgur.com/QnA6akx.jpg View Quote Is that the .223rem or the .224 Valerie? I lost track. |
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Chicken Farmer by choice hunter of shade tree's and hiding spots by nature.
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034: How’s the Mega MML build working out? I had the same Craddock Bartlien barrel that had wandering zero issues until I figured out the MML needs to be torqued much higher than normal. The barrel nut had backed out when using 40-50 ft/lb. Needed to go to 80. View Quote I haven’t shot it for groups lately. I did take it out last weekend on Sat/Sun to shoot at 300yds to generate 6arc brass. I don’t recall a single shot dropping from the 5” plate on Sat. with my known dope. We went back on Sunday and my girlfriend used the same dope and cleaned the KYL rack with it back to back (2” is the smallest plate). Based on that, I think it’s holding true, I just hope it groups decent the next time I take it out. But….I may pull the rail just to check that the barrel nut still meets the German spec. |
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Any new testing?
I have a 18in 1-7.7 Bartlien in order with CLE I’m waiting on. I found a older 16 Rainer Arms Select I forgot I had that is the above barrels place holder for now. I shot a few quick 3 rd groups after I zeroed the scope and both were pretty decent. .93 and I think like a .87 I didn’t save anything. Ammo was some magtech 77g I loaded up some .77 with 24.5 CFE and will see how it does. I can’t believe I forgot I had the barrel I thought I sold it. |
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[#26]
As always, Thanks for sharing all your results.
Any thoughts / comments on the PRS Lite ? |
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[#27]
Looking forward to more of your reviews!
Thanks for keeping the thread going. |
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[#29]
Thanks !
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*Hold on to your AR-15s. Their magic must be very powerful, or they wouldn’t want them.*
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[#31]
That is a good shooting barrel, especially with factory ammo
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[#32]
Bump to keep from the archives:
The end of 2022 and 2023 was super busy…. If you’re ever considering being on the board for your local gun club and have a job and family, seriously consider how much you enjoy shooting, as your limited time at the range may be filled with more Q/A than shooting! A few new barrels rifles to be tested soon; hopefully with some videos as well. Builds/barrels on deck: PSA M110 (.308) PSA Jakl (223/5.56) Larue 20” 7.62 Proof 24” 6creedmoor Potential test items: X-caliber 6GT Craddock Precision 22ARC (one or two 22ARC’s will likely be tested as I’m very interested in this cartridge. Still evaluating offerings). |
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[#33]
I would be interested in seeing the results of the 6GT test.
6x47L has been my choice in a bolt gun for a while, but I'm seriously considering switching to 6GT now that Lapua is supporting it. |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: Bump to keep from the archives: The end of 2022 and 2023 was super busy…. If you’re ever considering being on the board for your local gun club and have a job and family, seriously consider how much you enjoy shooting, as your limited time at the range may be filled with more Q/A than shooting! A few new barrels rifles to be tested soon; hopefully with some videos as well. Builds/barrels on deck: PSA M110 (.308) PSA Jakl (223/5.56) Larue 20” 7.62 Proof 24” 6creedmoor Potential test items: X-caliber 6GT Craddock Precision 22ARC (one or two 22ARC’s will likely be tested as I’m very interested in this cartridge. Still evaluating offerings). View Quote In for the arc results. I am mildly curious about it but put off on how the 6Arc brass and loads are almost vaporware. Way to support a cartridge Hornady. I wonder what is keeping others from producing the brass? What’s going to happen with the 22 arc? |
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What ever happened to that 16" Daniel Defense barrel? Is it a S2W profile or a government profile? Was it just not exciting enough to test?
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Originally Posted By DevL: What ever happened to that 16" Daniel Defense barrel? Is it a S2W profile or a government profile? Was it just not exciting enough to test? View Quote Govt Profile. It was tested in a limited capacity several months ago before work got in the way. Iirc, it printed back to back 10shot groups that were right at 1-1.2moa with ADI 69smk and a Vortex PST 1-4 optic. Due to some good friends that have lowers that support a higher rate of fire, it may not perform as well as it once did, but I’ll take it out soon. Hopefully the weather will cooperate and I’ll get to the range this weekend. I’ve just received some 22ARC ammo, sized 6.5g to 22ARC and bought some 168 otm and smk AAC ammo. |
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