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Posted: 11/22/2023 1:59:49 AM EDT
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Start with making yourself a smaller target try prone & kneeling. Learn to properly use a rifle sling to add support. Spend some of that rifle ammo at longer distances off a bipod. Keep in mind that what you do in training tends to be what you do when shit hits the fan and the last thing I want to do is stand up like British soldier in 1776. Cover and concealment are your friend. Spend pistol ammo at 25 yds or buy a Ruger 10-22 and use it on the in door range.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 7:04:08 PM EDT
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CSAT Standards
RIFLE STANDARDS The enclosed drills are designed with three purposes in mind: A measurable standard to maintain. An efficient stair-stepped workout program that covers all the bases. To test the individual shooter at various times to show areas needing improvement. ? DISTANCE / STANDARD ? Ready 1 shot 1 target 7 yards 1.00 sec. Ready 2 shots 1 target 7 yards 1.50 sec. Ready 2/1 Body/Head 7 yards 1.75 sec Ready 5/1 Body/Head 7 yards 3.00 sec. Ready 2 shots /2 targets 7 yards 3.00 sec. Ready 1 Rifle /1 Pistol 7 yards 3.25 sec Ready 5 shots /1 target 100 yards/prone 20 sec. * Ready 5 shots /1 target 75 yards/kneel 20 sec. * Ready 5 shots /1 target 50 yards/kneel 20 sec.* Ready 5 shots/1 target 25 yards/stand 8 sec. Total: 37 Rounds Rifle/1 Pistol ? **Instructor Student must pass 8 of 10 drills to be successful. **Drill 5, one shot from rifle is fired and then transition to pistol. Must both must hit. * 4 of 5 rounds must be in box Paul Howe has videos out on how to achieve these. Start by working the positions with dryfire on reduced size targets. |
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Posted: 11/23/2023 1:52:00 PM EDT
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Amen to CSAT standards.
Also look at everything Kyle Lamb has put out. Work hard on reloads, malfunction clearing, getting in and out of positions, using cover as said above, moving properly under fire (high crawl, low crawl, 3-5 second rush, PRACTICE these, wearing what you'd be fighting in), work multiple targets at various distances, partially obscure targets (bad guys use cover too!), etc,, off too of my head. And shooting standardized drills periodically, like El Diablo, El Presidente, 15 Seconds Of Fury, MTS 9 Shot Drill, etc., will show you areas you need to be working on. |
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Posted: 12/5/2023 4:12:50 PM EDT
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Probably the biggest things we see in classes is people just in general not familiar with manipulations enough. Lots of loading with their shooting hand instead of free hand, lots of loading with the gun and their eyes down instead of up, lots of "blue screen" when the gun locks up (jams), etc.
Not even considering shooting with their "other" hand (left for right handed shooters), position changes, movement that is borderline robotic etc. |
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Posted: 2/18/2024 1:41:21 AM EDT
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Good info. I took my first rifle class this weekend, and the instructor was using a timer when we were doing trigger work. I was going to ask how valuable of a tool it is. I see all the guntubers have them, but that acctually makes me leary. But reading up on CSAT, I see it can acctually be a valuble training device.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 8:59:06 PM EDT
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These are some good drills:
 Top 5 Combat Drills | Special Forces Training | Tactical Rifleman |
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Posted: 2/20/2024 12:07:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good info. I took my first rifle class this weekend, and the instructor was using a timer when we were doing trigger work. I was going to ask how valuable of a tool it is. I see all the guntubers have them, but that acctually makes me leary. But reading up on CSAT, I see it can acctually be a valuble training device. It is important to do things in the right order. First make sure you can accomplish the action correctly without time pressure. Only when you can do that consistently, add time pressure. Mosby describes the training formula for achieving excellence here: Math for Marksmen: The Speed Vs. Accuracy Equation The standards Mosby describes are better that what he achieved when he was special ops. I would humbly suggest that using "reactive" targets will give you the quickest results. I like to use falling steel. Bill Rogers is the master at reactive marksmanship. With Rogers training methods even higher standards are possible. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 7:59:24 PM EDT
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That too, I have found shooting steel to be extremely useful for the instant hit feedback it gives, especially when working a barricade or doing alot of movement.
With it, you begin to develop a better sense of an acceptable (rather than perfect) sight picture, if that makes sense. |
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Posted: 3/2/2024 2:37:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That too, I have found shooting steel to be extremely useful for the instant hit feedback it gives, especially when working a barricade or doing alot of movement. With it, you begin to develop a better sense of an acceptable (rather than perfect) sight picture, if that makes sense. Shooting steel is good for feedback, however, don't shoot it exclusively. Too much steel and your accuracy standards start to diminish. |
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Posted: 3/2/2024 6:46:55 PM EDT
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That's right. Do it ALL.
It's still good to hunker down at times and shoot tight groups, working the 4 fundamentals. And many standardized drills DO require specific targets, with specific scoring zones and metrics. Makes a difference. |
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