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Posted: 11/18/2022 1:25:30 PM EDT
I've seen a lot of "tactical Training" focused more so on weapon manipulation then anything else. Any movement incorporated involves a step to either side and that's "getting off the X". That will get you killed, that is not moving off the X.
Folks, incorporate actual movement in to your drills....move with a purpose. That being said, you need a solid foundation of footwork before you can effectively (and safely) begin movement with a loaded firearm. For those who have played sports, you will realize the point I'm making. Explosive movements will not be in your favor if you don't have a solid foundation of footwork. Start doing basic agility training and footwork training you see in sports like basketball, soccer etc. Plyometrics ,if your body is able, is fantastic for training moving quickly in either direction and the proper footwork will get you to your destination without falling on your face. Just food for thought I'd figure I'd throw out there. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 12:31:37 PM EDT
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Best to do lots of dry runs before you run around with loaded firearms. Competitive shooters do lots of dry fire practice. I use airsoft and .22 as well.
Rifle / Pistol Skill Builder Drill Book and Jeff's MTS drills are great places to start. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 8:38:46 PM EDT
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I've been studying this for years and I'm convinced once a large piece of metal that can harm people is placed in most people's hands, their movement immediately becomes almost robotic. This could be a knife, pistol, rifle, shotgun, etc.
"Robotic" as in stiff. I've noticed this with the normal "gun guys" crowd, the guys that have "trained at dozens of places" as well as folks with a combatives background who normally move somewhat efficiently where bare hands work is being done. A lot of times I think it's due to tight hips, lack of doing a lot of movement in general= normal "gun guys" crowd and quite a few of the training crowd. Yet even with combatives students I notice a problem with hips. I joke in class that "we will get you all's hips loosened up and then I'll get thank you notes in the mail from your wives and girlfriends."  But it's true. And that's just standing up movement, it gets uglier as you lower the platform. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 8:42:01 PM EDT
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And yes the take a shot then step left or right one step BS is typical gun skewl crap. It's a way to maximize people on a firing line doing drills and then being able to say "we teach movement." But it's not really movement in the sense that is needed movement.
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Posted: 12/2/2022 11:41:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lowdown3: And yes the take a shot then step left or right one step BS is typical gun skewl crap. It's a way to maximize people on a firing line doing drills and then being able to say "we teach movement." But it's not really movement in the sense that is needed movement. AGREED. I see instructors tout the side step in their classes as all the movement people will ever need, but it just doesn't hold up in Force-on-Force. Sadly the side step is one step above the "Stand and deliver" that most people practice on the range. If you don't have the drop on the opponent or aren't already behind cover, dynamic movement is the best thing you've got. |
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Posted: 12/3/2022 6:10:46 PM EDT
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I made this USPSA stage. Some fuds didn't like their options.
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Posted: 1/21/2023 9:05:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R_S: Best to do lots of dry runs before you run around with loaded firearms. Competitive shooters do lots of dry fire practice. I use airsoft and .22 as well. Rifle / Pistol Skill Builder Drill Book and Jeff's MTS drills are great places to start. @R_S That link doesn't work for me, just FYI. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 12:17:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nyktos: @R_S That link doesn't work for me, just FYI. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nyktos: Originally Posted By R_S: Best to do lots of dry runs before you run around with loaded firearms. Competitive shooters do lots of dry fire practice. I use airsoft and .22 as well. Rifle / Pistol Skill Builder Drill Book and Jeff's MTS drills are great places to start. @R_S That link doesn't work for me, just FYI. Try this one: Pistol Rifle Marksmenship Skill Drill-Book |
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Posted: 3/7/2023 6:54:19 PM EDT
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Set 50 gallon drums out in a diamond 10 yards apart. Guy has to shoot on the move, use cover to reload, key is changing their footwork up moving at angles to provide a solid base
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