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Posted: 8/25/2007 12:23:29 AM EDT
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Sign up for GMail (a Google product) and it gives you access to Google Spreadsheets, which you can link to from here. PM with your email address and I'll send you an invite - that's the only way to sign up that I know of. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2007 2:38:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2007 3:47:20 PM EDT
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Was the term liquifaction? |
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Posted: 8/26/2007 3:50:29 PM EDT
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You could do a screen print("print screen" key), paste it into some photo software (right clip "paste"), and upload it to a photo server. |
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Posted: 8/26/2007 5:12:07 PM EDT
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Well, by your logic, the druggie stealing something out of your car to get money for a fix is okay, because, for him, the S has HTF.  |
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Posted: 9/4/2007 12:07:38 PM EDT
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OST & bump
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Posted: 9/4/2007 12:43:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zaphod]
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OST.
Reckon I got me some weight-recalculating to do.
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Posted: 9/4/2007 11:06:29 PM EDT
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I am just sitting in my hotel room, looking at my GHB. I guess obsessing over it is better than looking at porn!
 I am really wondering how much I would miss the storm whistle in a real situation? Would I miss the large compass when I have a little one that seems more reliable than the large one? Would I really miss the bandana that wouldn't tie around my big head anyway? The body glide is worth its weight in gold so its staying! How many bandages are enough? Does the evolution of my survival techniques ever end? When am I carrying too much when I could easily improvise so much on the way home? |
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Posted: 9/5/2007 12:48:28 AM EDT
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I haven't been around much to continue the thread but I have been doing an exercise that has included urban and wilderness environments for the last month.
One thing I've found is I change my bags contents every few days to match the mission. So it goes from GHB to military field exercise to semi-camping and back again. I notice in a lot of threads people suggest camping with their gear. I guess that is good, but when I camp I live like a king. To me survival is completely different, though they may have some crossover points. Since I've been spending a lot of time in the city I've really been looking at how to sleep in a urban environment undetected. Most cities have lots of old buildings waiting for destruction. If you take a few days walking around you can see where the bums sleep and where they are not motivated enough to sleep. Also look at where authorities would be and not be in an emergency. I climb trad in the 5.10s so I have some options and buildering to gain access is one of them. Lots of pipes and conduit to climb. Many times the building you want in is not climbable but something connected is. Take the time to see where you could get up on something or even climb a pole or sign that puts you onto an awning and then onto a roof. Then go roof to roof. I was looking at a place a few days ago where you could go from a car roof to a sign pole to an awning to a roof with each move being pretty easy for anybody in any shape. Many times doors on roofs are not secured, and there may be structures on top that provide shelter and maybe water. Try to have two ways out of every lay-up location, minimum. Keep everything packed at all times unless you are using it. Nothing laying around like a gypsy camp. I bought a hammock just because they are comfortable, but one thing I've been thinking is how in combination with climbing they can be strung in very concealed locations in the city and in the woods. No good E&E but damn near impossible to find. |
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Posted: 9/5/2007 8:46:54 AM EDT
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Any recommendations on a hammock that will support a big guy? Think polar bear line backer.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2007 10:05:38 AM EDT
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My hennessy explorer is rated for 300 pounds
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Posted: 9/5/2007 11:29:48 AM EDT
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great bag...........dang I have a lot of work to do..............
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Posted: 9/5/2007 3:58:39 PM EDT
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Two weeks ago when I was in the city in dress clothes, I decided to add something I've been thinking about for a while, a laptop shoulder bag. I got the XL laptop bag from TIMBUK2.
I wanted it for a lot of reasons, part of the decision was I wanted something to go under the seat while on the airplane that was small enough I could still stretch my legs out. My pack has to go in overhead. This way I have a lot of comfort items and my scooby snacks right with me, same with "survival" gear and improvised weapons, without unloading it all into the seatback pocket and forgetting something. It also speeds up my board and unboard time as I don't have to dig at my pack. I also get to carry a little more stuff which in an emergency can be cannibalized into my ruck or abandoned. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2007 4:35:27 PM EDT
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Do you have any difficulty with the two bags while climbing? I wouud think the laptop bag might hang up or swing alot while urban climbing.
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Posted: 9/5/2007 7:01:47 PM EDT
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as I said the laptop bag is just for normal travel. I would most likely cannabilze the contents and abandon it in an emergency. I don't plan on carrying a shoulder bag or a laptop in a crisis.
It does though have a waist strap which can be deployed and you could carry it without it bouncing around if needed. |
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Posted: 9/5/2007 7:16:38 PM EDT
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   ar-jedi |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2007 1:59:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tommygun45]
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Ok I misunderstood. I thought you were climbing with both bags.
Speaking of climbing with a bag. Do you think it is better to free climb unencumbered and haul the bag up using the 550 as a tether or to climb with the bag, there by reducing the likelyhood of loosing the tether and therefore the GHB? |
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Posted: 9/7/2007 2:35:26 PM EDT
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I climb with a 25-35# bag all the time so I don't think its a big deal. In this situation I don't plan on climbing anything very hard so I'd probably still climb with it. Most likely you are climbing a downspout with window ledges or something every 10 feet, and I wouldn't want to climb more than, maybe 2 stories max, Most the stuff I look at is one story at a time.
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Posted: 9/7/2007 3:08:00 PM EDT
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Ragnar,
Do you have a man purse / maxepedition bag that you use every day for just basic stuff??? I'm thinking of getting one but........... never really saw anyone outfit one properly. Thoughts? |
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Posted: 9/8/2007 1:08:44 AM EDT
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I don't carry anything like that myself. I carry a G19 and two spydercos daily. If I have a garmet I have a flashlight and some random gear. But otherwise my pack is in my car. I don't see much keeping me from getting to my car.
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Posted: 9/8/2007 10:49:29 PM EDT
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I was downtown working all day. I started really looking at buildering and how easy it would be to camp on a roof, out of sight, and out of most danger.
I was amazed at how many easy sites I found where you could go 3-5 stories with little climbing danger as each position just stair-stepped to the next. If I get a chance this next week I'll take some pictures. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2007 4:07:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ROMAD-556]
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Originally Posted By _RAGNAR_: Here are two inexpensive and useful items  one the left is water heater In just a few minutes it will heat a large cup of water hot enough to make a mountain house meal, coffee, or tea. It is not for SHTF but for minor problems like being stuck in an airport. On the right is a cigarette lighter plug with alligator clips /quote Those are awesome! Found the one on the left at a local Ace hardware for about 7 bucks link. Tried it out and it brings 16oz in a SS cup to a rolling boil in <10 mins. I fly 60K a year and I can easily see where this would have made a difference at times. Great find and kick started my grey matter into urban mode thinking. Actually the whole thread has changed a lot of my thinking - very thought provoking to say the least. I am looking for a local source for the other one on the right but I know I can easily make it if I need to. Again, great idea and thanks for sharing it. A couple questions about things earlier in the thread:
1) SPAM I understand, but what is the plan for the olive oil? especially since it seems to be one of your first SHTF staples? Can you educate me about the finer virtues of olive oil? I'm a latch key kid who never learned how to cook much  2) Noticed you were keeping Spectra line on hand, what lb. test do you prefer? 3) About your pic of the cook gear from the first post... near the alcohol stove - what are the pair of aluminum/brass tubes? What is under the stove? is that wind screen/pot stand material or is that something else? This next one doesn't have a category but I thought it was worth bringing up again
Thanks for sharing your insights. It has been a very much appreciated dose of reality 
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NY, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2007 10:16:38 AM EDT
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I thought urban buildering was called second story B&E Seriously there are alot of urban "out of sight out of mind" hides, or alternate entry methods. |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 2:51:37 PM EDT
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quote] these is the problem, I use my stuff for light weight camping also, so I get confused as to what i really need also. Survival for me is a lot different than camping. I imagine i will end up carrying 5# too much max. But I see threads with 20-40# or even more of dead weight. |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 7:02:52 PM EDT
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tag for when I have a chance to expound on my bag and urban movement ect
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/11/2007 1:41:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ROMAD-556]
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Took 3 attempts (GI Joe's is a west coast thing I guess), Wallmart, Autozone and finally I found it for $3.99 at PepBoys: Bell Automotive Battery Clip Power Adapter All said, I picked up the AC submersion water heater (from ACE hardware) and a 12v accessory plug (from PebBoys) for just a hair over 10 bucks - very nice |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2007 11:19:23 PM EDT
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ttt
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NY, USA
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Posted: 10/1/2007 1:43:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tommygun45]
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I came across this in the NY hometown forum
Niagra tailrace That story lead me to start thinking abut what RAGNAR was refering to earlyer in this thred about urban/suburban survival. So a little Google fu and I found this Infiltration I guess I was unaware that there is a subc-ulture dedicated to urban exploration and infiltration. It strikes me that this group might have some interesting KSAs that would be useful in a survival situation. The skills used to infiltrate an abandoned structure, as well as theknowlage of how they are construced could prove very usefull for thoes of us that don't have a farm in the country to fall back to. |
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Posted: 10/1/2007 1:51:53 PM EDT
[#29]
+1 I read their exploits often |
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Posted: 10/1/2007 2:18:33 PM EDT
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This is a tag, and also a heads up to those that would like Epi-Pen performance without the cost, or the scrip.
Two shots of a Primatene Mist inhaler is the equivilent of a single use Epi-Pen. If you (or the PT) can inhale at all, the effects should be jsut as quick (if not quicker) than an IM injection with the EP. Cost is 1/5 of the injector, and has well more than a single-use. Ragnar, nice pack. I carry a bit more meds, a bit less shelter, and a bit more food in my GHB, but my 72 hours are vehicle-centric. I need to include more cash. |
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Posted: 10/1/2007 3:31:29 PM EDT
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Wow. Not that I'm doubting you on that but do you have a source you can link to? |
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Posted: 10/1/2007 9:17:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FMD]
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Read the label.  Primatene labeling from Wyeth (makers of PM):
EpiPen® Auto-injector info from the PDR:
2 Shots of PM = .44 Mg 1:1000 Epinephrine 1 Autoinjector EP = .30 Mg 1:1000 Epinephrine ...and know you know. ETA: Take a class with ResQDoc. Worth every penny and then some. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 10/21/2007 9:56:47 AM EDT
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ttt
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Posted: 10/21/2007 11:03:26 AM EDT
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Ragnar,
What kind of jacket is pictured? Thanks |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 10/21/2007 2:03:16 PM EDT
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Love the setup. What is the coldest you have stayed out to in the Snug jungle bag?
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Posted: 10/22/2007 10:24:14 PM EDT
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I have not tried it in the cold yet. I haven't been on the thread or working with that specific gear for a while, I've been doing too much travel and work. Currently I'm doing multiple overnights on glaciers in Alaska, last night went below 0. I think I could have had a decent night with the jungle bag using all my clothing with it (puffy pants and jacket.) |
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Posted: 10/23/2007 9:15:51 AM EDT
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Where did you get the battery charger that plugs into the cig lighter?
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Posted: 10/24/2007 12:44:27 PM EDT
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I got mine at GI JOES in the auto section
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Posted: 11/22/2007 12:53:48 PM EDT
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BTT
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Posted: 11/24/2007 1:25:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _RAGNAR_]
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Just did some climbing in Alaska for 3 weeks, I don't think I have shots of the GHB in use but I did wear it on all the day trips. It was not big enough to use on overnights with climbing gear and sub zero gear of course.
I was able through use of a little thinking and many layouts, reduce my load to 10-15 pounds less than almost anyone else. The big thing is use your clothes as part of your sleeping/shelter system. To many people carried too much redundant equipment. Which is fine when you have to or you are by yourself but the team can provide redundancy so the individual does not have to.  
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Posted: 11/24/2007 2:32:40 PM EDT
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Damn that is pretty. That looks like some pretty harry climbing.
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Posted: 12/13/2007 10:52:55 PM EDT
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Wouldn't want this one to get archived...
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/14/2007 7:19:09 PM EDT
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BTT
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USA
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Posted: 12/16/2007 6:34:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: oswald01]
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I'm an old James Bond reader from back in the day. James had a neat briefcase set up for "urban survival". One thing he had on board was 50 gold sovereigns sewn concealed in the case hinge stays.
A little known fact about sovereigns from Wiki:
Of course, back in Jame's day, gold was $32/oz. Another thought would be to include a few high quality one carat diamonds in their clear assay sleeves. |
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Posted: 12/29/2007 2:47:02 AM EDT
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I just picked one up at Radio Shack for $7.00. Still cant find the water heater. Been to all the local ACE, Home depot, and Lowes. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2007 9:48:52 AM EDT
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Ragnar, I have a Kenwood g71a like you have. When the factory Nicad battery finally died, I found this to replace it with:
www.batteriesamerica.com/kenwood1.htm It holds 6 AAs instead of the 4 that the factory AA case holds. This makes my TX wattage nearly as much as the 9.6v Nicad. Also, AAs would be easier to recharge or replace in the field. I also got this antenna: www.rlham.com/cgi-bin/shop/modellookup.dbw?MODEL=PHW150C It adds a little weight, but it is head and shoulders above the rubber duck as far as range. |
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Posted: 12/29/2007 11:51:03 AM EDT
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Quite a few of those cats are here in DFW. Good dudes, and ballsy. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2008 5:15:16 PM EDT
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My thoughts exactly. Everytime I fly x-country, I think of this thread. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2008 5:49:29 PM EDT
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Excellent thread. RAGNAR, looks like you have that dialed in.
Since I don't travel very much anymore, usually only once or twice a year, I have taken to sending some gear ahead of me to the hotel. When you have multiple destinations this doesn't really work and can get expensive. Last summer when I went out to LA from GA, I sent ahead my basic GHB frontline gear in a box to the hotel. Nothing fancy, but enough gear to get me out of the city and on the way home should trouble arise. Great ideas about the trip wires. I need to think along those lines. |
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Posted: 1/18/2008 7:53:24 PM EDT
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nice kit....but 3 weeks without eating???? I'd concentrate more on having food on hand, not only candy and snacks but real food. I keep a Tuna pouch (along with some candy) in my pack everywhere I go, along with a bottle of water, flashlight, knife and a few other items. Try going for a week without eating, then we can talk aobut the 3 week thing :D I only managed to go 3 days without eating, I can't imagine going 3 full weeks, let alone be of any use or able to walk all day. Nice going on the 1000 buck though. Some people underestimate the power of cash during crisis. FerFAL |
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