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Cold weather will be here starting Friday. I need to dig up my elephant ear bulbs. I'm going to dry store them this year since it doesn't seem to make a difference once they start to grow other than there is about a month delay before the first ear is visible but that is worth not having to deal with keeping the plant alive all winter.
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Small fox update. I'm down to just 2 foxes now. The mom and one of the kits which I assume is a female. The other kit that acted like a male would decided he was finally going to head off and do his own thing. In other news there is a possum that I am now able to occasionally hand feed. He is slow and not the brightest animal but he usually is not concerned with my presence or when I approach him. The rest of the possums and occasional raccoon don't want anything to do with me and will run off.
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: Small fox update. I'm down to just 2 foxes now. The mom and one of the kits which I assume is a female. The other kit that acted like a male would decided he was finally going to head off and do his own thing. In other news there is a possum that I am now able to occasionally hand feed. He is slow and not the brightest animal but he usually is not concerned with my presence or when I approach him. The rest of the possums and occasional raccoon don't want anything to do with me and will run off. View Quote I missed the part where the foxes had taken their leave! I need to go back and read, obviously. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: The first cold snap we got in October is when they started to go their own way but would still occasionally come back. Then it was down to just 3 kits, 2 from the mom and the 1 extra. I assume the mom was successful in chasing off the extra one and then it was just her 2. One would always hang back and never got comfortable being closer then 20 feet away. I assume that one was a male just by the behavior and one day about 2 weeks ago he just stopped showing up. The remaining kit behaves likes a female. The mom tolerates her but doesn't want her getting within 5 feet of her but at times she will chase her off as well. That mom's winter coat has filled in really well, she looks like a chunky fox now but I'm pretty sure it is just all fluffed up fur. I thought I had posted this picture I guess not. One evening I was delayed getting out and the mom came up toward the house to make sure I didn't forget about her. Once I threw her a hotdog the 2 kits and extra came running up to the house as well. I believe extra is on the right. The one in the back is the assumed male that stopped showing up recently. This was taken shortly before extra was chased off. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/hungry_fox_JPG-2609868.jpg View Quote Interesting to see their behavior. I'm guessing the kits can have litters their first season out on their own, and that would make sense...mom would want to have her new litter without all that activity around. I admit that I've never read a whole lot about Fox growth and development and don't know their lives. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: Picture of the well fed mother fox. I'm not sure what else she is eating besides what I put out. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/fox_wellfed_JPG-2627223.jpg View Quote Wow. I mean, the fur is at its best right now, but still...she is not suffering from malnutrition. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: Here is a picture of her and the kit that has remained. A month ago they looked about the same size. Her fur really fluffed up but it also looks like she has fat rolls when she moves. Ignore the ladder on the ground, the wind blew it over that day. Normally the ladder is standing next to the tree and is used to fill the deer feeder with cat food. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/fox_wellfed3_JPG-2627690.jpg View Quote OMG. You made a fat fox! Well..she will not be cold this winter, and will have extra stores for her new kits. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: OMG. You made a fat fox! Well..she will not be cold this winter, and will have extra stores for her new kits. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Originally Posted By SWIRE: Here is a picture of her and the kit that has remained. A month ago they looked about the same size. Her fur really fluffed up but it also looks like she has fat rolls when she moves. Ignore the ladder on the ground, the wind blew it over that day. Normally the ladder is standing next to the tree and is used to fill the deer feeder with cat food. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/fox_wellfed3_JPG-2627690.jpg OMG. You made a fat fox! Well..she will not be cold this winter, and will have extra stores for her new kits. I haven't fed her any more than I was feeding her all year. I chalk it up to experience, she knows winter is coming and that I visit as often when it is cold, so she put on as much weight as she could while she can. Where she is getting all the other food is a mystery to me. I have noticed very few rabbits this year. However, there is one rabbit that keeps moving closer and closer to where they eat. That rabbit's days are numbers. Also the number of cats roaming the property declined. Earlier this year I one of the cameras caught one of the males chasing after one. Now if they would just learn to take out the remaining ground hogs. They have no interest in them at all. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: I haven't fed her any more than I was feeding her all year. I chalk it up to experience, she knows winter is coming and that I visit as often when it is cold, so she put on as much weight as she could while she can. Where she is getting all the other food is a mystery to me. I have noticed very few rabbits this year. However, there is one rabbit that keeps moving closer and closer to where they eat. That rabbit's days are numbers. Also the number of cats roaming the property declined. Earlier this year I one of the cameras caught one of the males chasing after one. Now if they would just learn to take out the remaining ground hogs. They have no interest in them at all. View Quote That's because they taste like ground hog. |
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Originally Posted By MoBigAl: That's because they taste like ground hog. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MoBigAl: Originally Posted By SWIRE: I haven't fed her any more than I was feeding her all year. I chalk it up to experience, she knows winter is coming and that I visit as often when it is cold, so she put on as much weight as she could while she can. Where she is getting all the other food is a mystery to me. I have noticed very few rabbits this year. However, there is one rabbit that keeps moving closer and closer to where they eat. That rabbit's days are numbers. Also the number of cats roaming the property declined. Earlier this year I one of the cameras caught one of the males chasing after one. Now if they would just learn to take out the remaining ground hogs. They have no interest in them at all. That's because they taste like ground hog. They certainly do have a stink to them even when they are alive and much worse if they have been dead 24 hours. The smaller ones didn't smell as a bad as the older ones though but still no interest. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: From a trail cam in the upper back yard. I haven't seen any signs that deer have been around but maybe the snow and cold pushed them further than they usually go for food. They were looking in the area where the gardens were during the summer. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/deer_JPG-2657075.jpg View Quote Awww. Pretty. |
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Originally Posted By Mak_380: I like to read your adventures. Although I'm often going, "Better you than me". View Quote I haven't even gotten to the really "fun" stuff yet inside the house. I've been using the outside stuff as a distraction to avoid the inside. I'm fine being sweaty and covered head to toe in dirt. Being being sweaty, while being confined into a small space, rodent/raccoon feces around, fiberglass insulation everywhere, and either choking while trying to breath through a mask or or breathing in all the dust from the items I just described is one of the layers of hell I believe. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: Apparently I have a squirrel that can rival Hundi when it comes to escaping. The food kept disappearing but the trap was empty. This is a Squirrelinator trap which has previously caught over 50 squirrels. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/hudini_squirrel_JPG-2665741.jpg Here is an example of high tight the wires are. I need to check the trap for see if there are several broken wires. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/squirrelinator_JPG-2665746.jpg View Quote That squirrel is meant to be alive. Let him be. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: I haven't even gotten to the really "fun" stuff yet inside the house. I've been using the outside stuff as a distraction to avoid the inside. I'm fine being sweaty and covered head to toe in dirt. Being being sweaty, while being confined into a small space, rodent/raccoon feces around, fiberglass insulation everywhere, and either choking while trying to breath through a mask or or breathing in all the dust from the items I just described is one of the layers of hell I believe. View Quote Get yourself a really good respirator and a tyvek suit. Do it. We had to do it with this olde house. It is part of the olde house initiation. You have to do it. If you will tell me when you are doing it, I will drive up and help. It's WAY better with somebody else helping, if for no other reason than to make jokes and shoot the shit with you while you are doing the worst job you have ever done. Seriously. Body Doubling is a thing. Use it. I will come up and help. I love old houses. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Get yourself a really good respirator and a tyvek suit. View Quote Any idea on how long the bad bacteria can stay viable in raccoon feces? Months or years? That is really my biggest concern when it comes to accessing spaces and any demo work. I'm considering getting one of the filtered and powered air hoods for working in some of the spaces. I also need thick rubber gloves that are flexible enough to still do work. Accessing the attic spaces, even for a few minutes, leaves me feeling nasty and contaminated. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: Any idea on how long the bad bacteria can stay viable in raccoon feces? Months or years? That is really my biggest concern when it comes to accessing spaces and any demo work. I'm considering getting one of the filtered and powered air hoods for working in some of the spaces. I also need thick rubber gloves that are flexible enough to still do work. Accessing the attic spaces, even for a few minutes, leaves me feeling nasty and contaminated. View Quote I'd assume the worst - and yeah - a quality powered hood is exactly what I'd be looking for. That's a lot of prolonged exposure and a standard mask wouldn't cut it - or at least not for my personal degree of hypochondria ! |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: @Kitties-with-Sigs Tons of history and pieces make up this property. Here is a drawing of the different parts of the house and when they were built. This is only viewing it from the front. The backside had many additions as well but there is no drawing for it. 1789 was the first 2 room structure. The 1813 piece was a completely separate house located about 15 ft way from the 1789 house. The 1835 addition on the left was a quick add on, shorter than 1789 part by about 8 inches, and has no trap door or access under the floor but is solid. The 1870 pieces are gap fillers and add ons. The middle section is what combined the 1789 house with the 1813 house. Then the front wall of the 1813 house was knocked out and extended by about 8 feet with that 1870 section, then the front porch was put on. The 1813 house used to look north and I believe the 1789 house looked west. When the houses were combined the 1813 house front door was removed and turned into a window, the stair case to the second floor was also removed and a grand staircase added in the 1870 middle section. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/millspring_house_age-2694116.png View Quote This is awesome! I need to spend a little time to figure this out. Very cool. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: For the last couple of months the foxes had not been coming around as much, at least not right at dark when I am out there. Last night the usual two, mom and daughter, did show up. The mom does not let the daughter near her now. Mom is up front and the daughter the blur in the background trying to keep her distance. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/fox_2023_2_2_JPG-2696157.jpg View Quote Mom is probably pregnant again. |
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I'm a little east of you here in KY and I have a ditch that runs through my property that becomes a river when it rains. The river is cutting into my hillside below the house. Are you aware of any state programs that help reinforce creek banks and prevent erosion or am I on my own here?
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Originally Posted By ENGCPT: I'm a little east of you here in KY and I have a ditch that runs through my property that becomes a river when it rains. The river is cutting into my hillside below the house. Are you aware of any state programs that help reinforce creek banks and prevent erosion or am I on my own here? View Quote Ask your county extension office. UK runs some Kentucky State others. Another resource: https://eec.ky.gov/Natural-Resources/Conservation/Pages/Soil-and-Water-Conservation-Commission.aspx USDA has a program too that I can’t remember the name. But it’s more agricultural oriented. |
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Originally Posted By ENGCPT: I'm a little east of you here in KY and I have a ditch that runs through my property that becomes a river when it rains. The river is cutting into my hillside below the house. Are you aware of any state programs that help reinforce creek banks and prevent erosion or am I on my own here? View Quote The only program that I'm aware of requires it to be a flowing creek. Not sure if that is what you have. The program requires you give a 50' permanent easement to the state on each side and then they will come in and stabilize everything. If it a dry ditch that floods then I'm not sure if would qualify. I think Fish and Wildlife handle that program. Other air/programs would be under the EEC (Environmental) cabinet. I've been reinforcing my banks. From what I can tell the city added a storm drain to creek above me and increased water flow over the last 5 years has been eating away at everything. They are getting ready to turn 10 lots into a huge office complex. If they push all that run off into the creek then I will have even bigger problems. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: Expanding my technical skills. Below should be an animated image of Feonia the gray fox mother from a few nights ago. In other news the little one, her kit, showed up the other night with a very bad limp and could not put any weight on her front left paw. She showed the following night not limping as bad but I have not seen her for the past 3 nights. Also Feonia started taking food back to her den. It is too early for her to feed any kits so I'm assuming she is starting to stock pile food for when she does have them and doesn't want to go far for food. https://www.afterhourtechs.com/misc/fox_animated_1.png View Quote Your animation works great! There is a fox in the background. Is that the year-old kit? I am worried about the baby girl now. Some people will call me stupid, but saying a prayer for her. I'm guessing mom has already given birth, but you see her in person, so maybe not? ETA: I mean she looked heavier in your recent photos than she does in that animation. (Not sure when that was taken.) I would guess she would have delivered by now, based on normal timing down here. But that doesn't mean she fits that time schedule. I would not expect her to put food anywhere near her den, because that would attract predators. Maybe she's feeding her injured mate? That's just a guess...I have no idea. |
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Saw both the mom and the 1 year old tonight. At first it was just the little one and after about 30 minutes I decided to head back in and the mom showed up right as I was leaving. The little one is not limping like it was the other day. The mom got a chicken quarter that she took back to her den which is a good thing since we have 19 degree weather coming this weekend. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: @Kitties-with-Sigs Saw both the mom and the 1 year old tonight. At first it was just the little one and after about 30 minutes I decided to head back in and the mom showed up right as I was leaving. The little one is not limping like it was the other day. The mom got a chicken quarter that she took back to her den which is a good thing since we have 19 degree weather coming this weekend. View Quote Great to know they are both okay! Wow. I'm invested in a fox family that lives 3 hours from me. But yeah. I'm praying for those foxes. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: I'm praying for those foxes. View Quote Same here. The good thing is if they head north they have pretty much undeveloped woods with a creek and almost no way for humans to get back there. To the north is also protected by the elkhorn creek which further limits human access. On top of that, human development is somewhat discouraged because across the elk horn creek is the city waste water/sewer treatment plant. If the wind is blowing the right direction there are days where I get a whiff of it and I'm over 1/2 a mile away. At some point though the area will expand and their buffer zone will be removed. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: I can't confirm the mother fox is nursing any kits but her behavior changed about a month ago. She started taking food back to her den which is what she started doing last spring. One night she was eating, heard a noise and ran to the terrace wall to listen, and then bolted off towards her den with no food. Having kits in the den is only reason I know of for that behavior. The other fox still shows up and her behavior has not changed. A picture of the mom from a couple days ago. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/fox_23_4_13_JPG-2787938.jpg View Quote She looks tired. Probably nursing. |
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Some slightly concerning news: I went to see the foxes tonight and neither showed. As I was waiting I started to hear an animal screaming in the direction the foxes come from. The noise was of an animal either pinned down in a trap or pinned down by another animal. I went to investigate and heard it louder but on the opposite side of the creek from where I was and in the direction of the den the mother had last year. I moved as quick as I could but by the time I got over there the screaming had stopped. I looked all through the brush and could not find any signs of anything that might have happened. I went back to my yard and the young female fox showed up but not the mom. The screaming could have been from a rabbit becoming dinner for something, there are a lot of rabbits around even with the foxes. I'm assuming if something was trying to get to the kits in the den the male fox would have been around as well and helped fight off whatever. But the noise I heard sounded more like a fox screaming than a rabbit. I did not hear any snarling or growling like I've hard the mom do to chase off raccoons. So I'm hoping it was just a rabbit. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: @Kitties-with-Sigs Some slightly concerning news: I went to see the foxes tonight and neither showed. As I was waiting I started to hear an animal screaming in the direction the foxes come from. The noise was of an animal either pinned down in a trap or pinned down by another animal. I went to investigate and heard it louder but on the opposite side of the creek from where I was and in the direction of the den the mother had last year. I moved as quick as I could but by the time I got over there the screaming had stopped. I looked all through the brush and could not find any signs of anything that might have happened. I went back to my yard and the young female fox showed up but not the mom. The screaming could have been from a rabbit becoming dinner for something, there are a lot of rabbits around even with the foxes. I'm assuming if something was trying to get to the kits in the den the male fox would have been around as well and helped fight off whatever. But the noise I heard sounded more like a fox screaming than a rabbit. I did not hear any snarling or growling like I've hard the mom do to chase off raccoons. So I'm hoping it was just a rabbit. View Quote Oh, man. Praying for Fionna and her family. |
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The one year old fox showed up tonight but Fiona did not.
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Four nights and no sighting of Fiona. The one year old is healthy and has shown up every night.
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I have been following this thread closely and I am very happy Fiona is back.
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