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I've been thirsting for more knowledge on this subject so I ordered the book. Wife and I are doing an all ladies Appleseed this weekend in Alabama so this will give me something to read in the hotel at night!
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So you can shoot? Come to an Appleseed, let's verify that claim, then start helping me teach others to shoot too!
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Sounds like I need to buy a book.
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"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." - Ernest Hemingway
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since this is the internet, i'll ask: you know, i don't think i've ever seen a pissing contest. were those really a thing? was it based on volume or distance? seems like you'd have to be at a bruce jenner level of jacked up mentally to volunteer to referee/judge
looks like a good book though |
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I ordered the book off of Amazon. I also ordered Mike Lamb's Precision Rifle DVD and the Magpul Precision Rifle DVD's. Thanks for the book review. |
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I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys.
OH, USA
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I ordered it yesterday too.
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Never follow anyone shorter than you; they can walk under things that you can't.
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I bought the book a month or so ago. It is as good an instructional manual as you will find on any subject, and heads and shoulders above most firearms instruction. Easily the best $15 I've spent on shooting gear ever. It's this simple - if you want to be a better shooter at long range, buy the book, read it, and absorb the material. If you want to keep chasing your tail, don't. |
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Originally Posted By mikenmaryland:
this coming from someone with bush in the avatar..lol |
Originally Posted By tweeter:
. . . I didn't need to rely on lasers or spotting scopes or expensive rifles. If you want to get into shooting long distances, or if you want a refresher on the basics... this book is the cat's pajamas. If has everything you need and nothing you don't. It's not muddled with theory work and formulas, just some simple tools you can realistically use. . . View Quote Thanks for reviewing the book and sharing your thoughts, Tweeter! I must admit, your analysis taught me something about what I wrote and/or how I wrote it. |
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Originally Posted By USPcompact:
I bought the book a month or so ago. It is as good an instructional manual as you will find on any subject, and heads and shoulders above most firearms instruction. Easily the best $15 I've spent on shooting gear ever. It's this simple - if you want to be a better shooter at long range, buy the book, read it, and absorb the material. If you want to keep chasing your tail, don't. View Quote Wow. Thank you for the endorsement! I'm glad I helped. |
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I just bought it on Kindle and am already about halfway through.
As others have said the book is written in a very laid back, easy to read format. The information is easy to absorb. Some topics I understood the basics of, such as Mil vs MOA, still had some stuff I did not know or had never thought about that made it interesting to read. One of the things I liked most is where Cleckner would either say you don't need to worry about something or it is one of the last things you need to worry about. With so much technical information out there about precision shooting it's easy to get hung up unnecessarily and this book helps guide you through this. If you are winning F Class or PRS matches this book may not hold as much information for you as it does for newer shooters but even then it presents many topics in a new light and may give you a new perspective on some things. For new shooters it's a great investment. I am am fairly new and am going to buy a paper copy as well. It's less than the cost of a box of rifle ammunition and I think you will definitely get more out of it. It also nicely complements the authors youtube series. |
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Originally Posted By Cleck:
Wow. Thank you for the endorsement! I'm glad I helped. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cleck:
Originally Posted By USPcompact:
I bought the book a month or so ago. It is as good an instructional manual as you will find on any subject, and heads and shoulders above most firearms instruction. Easily the best $15 I've spent on shooting gear ever. It's this simple - if you want to be a better shooter at long range, buy the book, read it, and absorb the material. If you want to keep chasing your tail, don't. Wow. Thank you for the endorsement! I'm glad I helped. Hell, thank you for doing the book. I wish I had it 10 years ago. |
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Originally Posted By mikenmaryland:
this coming from someone with bush in the avatar..lol |
Due to my unhealthy man crush on Tweeter the book was just delivered to me.
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Avatar by JustJim (not me!)
Scarecrow for itsARanchrifle & clharr Callsign: Elmer You can't argue with the Trumpalos. They'll fling their poo at you.-Stutzcattle |
I finished the book last night. Great introductory type book. Had a few points that I was unfamiliar with. It definitely takes it back to the basics and you can use it to start from even if you have zero experience.
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I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys.
OH, USA
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I have been shooting for over 35 years, but just recently really started to play in the long range game. I am 5 chapters in and am really enjoying it and finding it useful. I have already recommended it to two people, one bought it and the other is waiting to borrow my copy.
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Never follow anyone shorter than you; they can walk under things that you can't.
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I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys.
OH, USA
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"This is the worst coloring book ever."
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Never follow anyone shorter than you; they can walk under things that you can't.
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Just bought it on Kindle!
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I bought the book and it is easy to read and understand even for a newbie like me. The biggest thing I have picked up from this book is it has stopped me spending money on items I thought I needed and directed me to buy the right items I need for what I am attempting to do, thanks Ryan.
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Originally Posted By steelheadr:
I bought the book and it is easy to read and understand even for a newbie like me. The biggest thing I have picked up from this book is it has stopped me spending money on items I thought I needed and directed me to buy the right items I need for what I am attempting to do, thanks Ryan. View Quote Glad to have helped! Thanks for the support! |
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Just ordered my copy. Thanks for writing it.
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[T]he rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. Jeff Cooper
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I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys.
OH, USA
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I am on the last chapter and the whole book has been outstanding. There is a typo in the windage chapter. I don't have the book in front of me, but in the first example problem the answer should be 29 and some change, but the book says 20. I'll double check the page this evening.
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Never follow anyone shorter than you; they can walk under things that you can't.
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I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys.
OH, USA
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Originally Posted By Ironmaker:
I am on the last chapter and the whole book has been outstanding. There is a typo in the windage chapter. I don't have the book in front of me, but in the first example problem the answer should be 29 and some change, but the book says 20. I'll double check the page this evening. View Quote Page 253 |
Never follow anyone shorter than you; they can walk under things that you can't.
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After reading this thread I picked up a copy off of Amazon. In hind sight I probably should have bought direct. I'll add to the OP's comments.
Anyhow it arrived yesterday and I sat with it for an hour and a half. Reading and skimming. I do have to say I have a lot of the included info already but I can easily see this is a great format for the beginner. It's thorough enough to do the job without bogging down in lots of minutia to make the new guys' eyes glaze over. Simplified formulas that will work and get you on target. It has what you need like Brawndo. I can say the permutations I went through in the old days and math methods was kind of a stupid way to do things. I was a guilty bastid for converting everything to inches in my brain then applying it back to the scope. But hey that was the day of IPHY knobs and MIldot reticles, hand written drop tables that didn't always match what happened on the range. The good ole days...... I know the author meant it as a handbook to pack along but I might humbly suggest a laminated card to come along with it, with some of the formulas and methods right on the card because I have lapses when I spend time away from shooting for a long time. That way when you have the concepts down you can still have your cheat sheet with you when you leave the book on the shelf. Just a thought. Good read and when I'm through reading it more thoroughly, I'm going to loan it to a friend that is getting into shooting longer distances. I think this book is perfect for him, he's been shooting a long time but only by sighting in at 100 and kentucky windage and hold overs thereafter. |
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RC was one of my primary instructors a long time ago. He was/is generally a very intelligent person and is excellent at conveying the complexities or lack there of for long range shooting.
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Thanks for the recommendation, Tweeter. I'm new to bolt guns/longer range shooting, and this book seems right up my alley. Just ordered it off of Amazon, and looking forward to reading it cover to cover.
Off topic but sort of on topic - ish - Just bought a Remington 700 in 308 to start practicing with. I read a lot on these forums about better rounds, etc, but for the price, and considering this is my first bolt gun, it seemed like a more affordable route to go while I learn everything pertaining to longer ranged shooting. On my issued rifles, I've used everything from irons, Aimpoints, Eotechs, Acogs, and Elcans, but never shot anything in this field. The more I read about even what to buy, from a million different threads over a number of different forums, filled with contrasting and often contradictory opinions or perspectives, the more I, as a newbie, got confused. This books seems to put it all together. The problem in my case, and I'm sure for other people who are in a similar position, is I don't really know all of the questions to ask to find the right answers. I've shot expert plenty of times during quals, but this is an entirely different animal. So again, thanks for the recommendation. |
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Originally Posted By Ironmaker:
Originally Posted By Ironmaker:
I am on the last chapter and the whole book has been outstanding. There is a typo in the windage chapter. I don't have the book in front of me, but in the first example problem the answer should be 29 and some change, but the book says 20. I'll double check the page this evening. Page 253 Great catch! I appreciate the critical reading. If you send me your name via the book's website contact form, I'll make the change for future editions and give you credit. |
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bumped for later. I gotta order this and need my wives passcode for amazon. LOL.
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Mine will be here tomorrow. He has some videos in youtube that are great. From setting up the rifle, all the way up to cleaning the rifle.
How to set up a scope sight in a rifle Long range shooting, 11 videos |
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I have a Rock Creek barrelled upper (16") along with a Weaver Tactical scope that has not been put to use, as I don't know jack about shooting at distance. I just received the mil-dot master and, now, it looks like I'll be getting this book.
Thanks for the review, OP! |
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Just ordered it, can't wait to read it and finally learn a thing or too.
The authors videos got me into precision type rifles in the first place. Just need to learn how to shoot past 300 now. |
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
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Ordered
Thanks for the recommendation |
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Appreciate the OP posting up about the book and the others who gave it high marks.
Just ordered a copy directly from the authors website,looking forward to giving it a read. RK |
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I don't expect English teachers to be shooting instructors nor shooting instructors to be English teachers. My own minimal educational writings were long ago in textbook chapters now superseded, but it taught me great respect for the process of giving detailed technical information in a reader-friendly format. The author's educational and operational background complement each other perfectly for this type of book.
This was my first Black Friday purchase, albeit before midnight Thanksgiving. THANK YOU, Ryan, for doing Kindle MatchBook! I hadn't even known of that feature until last night and was able to start into the first chapters. So far, it's an excellent read with a logical progression of information. When reaching the early description of a bullet with the kinetic energy equation, I thought, "it would be great to expand on that and discuss powder converting chemical energy into kinetic energy." Several pages later, "boom," so to speak, there it was. A suggestion on your own website's shopping section: Consider adding a drop-down menu at checkout to easily add the option of donating a copy to a service member. Alternatively, you could populate the store with 2 additional items. One of those would be the book + donated copy. The other could be donating both copies. I intend to give my Amazon hard copy as a gift and order one of the signed editions for myself from your website + donate one. You might find more people opting to donate copies if it's by clickable option instead of writing in the order comments. There were 223 Amazon reviews when I ordered. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Like fine herbs, dreams only develop their full fragrance when crushed and ground into a fine powder.
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Nice work Ryan, I have always enjoyed your YouTube videos.
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Originally Posted By Azygos:
... A suggestion on your own website's shopping section: Consider adding a drop-down menu at checkout to easily add the option of donating a copy to a service member. Alternatively, you could populate the store with 2 additional items. One of those would be the book + donated copy. The other could be donating both copies. I intend to give my Amazon hard copy as a gift and order one of the signed editions for myself from your website + donate one. You might find more people opting to donate copies if it's by clickable option instead of writing in the order comments... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote Thank you for the kind words and good advice. I offered a donated copy as a drop-down option and I only had two people take advantage of the deal. I'm happy to bring it back! I'm open to suggestions on locations for the donations. Of course, I'm going to favor the Ranger Battalions but I'm sure this book would be appreciated military-wide. If anyone knows some good contacts to help distribute the donated copies, I could just ship them a case at a time and leave it to them to hand out as they see fit. |
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Got my copy this week, haven't had much of a chance to read it, but it looks great. Can't wait to learn as much as I can. Never got into precision shoot much, and I think lack of knowledge was the biggest reason, but I'm determined to make it work. Now if you all could teach me to read faster, I'm the world's slowest reader. Lol
Thanks to everyone in this thread. |
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"When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death...Sing your death song and die like a hero going home." -Tecumseh
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Thanks for this thread and thanks to the author.
Just ordered it off Amazon |
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Being the coolest person in GD is pretty much like being the prettiest piece of shit in the pile. But congrats on that!
Iowa Renegade..7/20/16 |
Originally Posted By Cleck:
Thank you for the kind words and good advice. I offered a donated copy as a drop-down option and I only had two people take advantage of the deal. I'm happy to bring it back! I'm open to suggestions on locations for the donations. Of course, I'm going to favor the Ranger Battalions but I'm sure this book would be appreciated military-wide. If anyone knows some good contacts to help distribute the donated copies, I could just ship them a case at a time and leave it to them to hand out as they see fit. View Quote I just placed order numbers 986 & 987 on your website a few minutes ago and added the donation request in the comment section. You're better plugged into the shooting community than I, so I'll defer to your judgement on where to send the copies. Sorry more people didn't take advantage of that, but it's still a great gesture to send such a large chunk of the proceeds to charity. |
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Like fine herbs, dreams only develop their full fragrance when crushed and ground into a fine powder.
-LowBeta |
Started reading this morning, it will be in my range bag from now on.
Page 9 hits home with me right away..."Consistency is the key to accuraccy"..I need to work on doing it the same way each time. Looking forward to the rest of this book. |
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Being the coolest person in GD is pretty much like being the prettiest piece of shit in the pile. But congrats on that!
Iowa Renegade..7/20/16 |
I just order a copy from amazon, it's on sale for $10.67.
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I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys.
OH, USA
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Never follow anyone shorter than you; they can walk under things that you can't.
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Originally Posted By CoffeedrinkerinNC:
I just order a copy from amazon, it's on sale for $10.67. View Quote Thanks for the tip - I just ordered one to go along with my Kindle version. And thanks to the OP for the review; I never would have found the author or his NSSF video series on Youtube if I hadn't ran across this thread. But most of all, thank you Cleck for writing the book and for all your efforts to make make ordinary folks better and safer shooters. |
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I just bought the book the other day and then decided to get a Kindle.
To my surprise I went to see what the cost would be for the Kindle and it was FREE since I bought the book Can't beat that!! I can't wait to start reading it tonight when my Kindle is up and running |
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@Cleck
I got my Kindle yesterday and started reading for a bit last night. It is a very good book thus far! It is also the first actual book that I have read in probably 8 years I look forward to reading more of it tonight. You have a very engaging writing style and an excellent tone for those just starting out. I must admit that I am guilty though of buying a $4K rifle after upgrading several times over the years when I probably don't need it given how much and what distance I shoot at but I like my AIAT w/ Gen II Razor so I will keep it I did see a typo though on Page 21 that Hornady is spelled wrong under the bullet caption. Not a huge one but I figured you'd want to know for future releases. Attached File |
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This book was recommended to me by @jlficken and has been the best $10 that I've ever spent on anything shooting related. I've read through this book twice along with going back and highlighting a lot of things for future reference. I'm new to longer range shooting and had never shot past 350 yards before. This past weekend I got the chance to stretch it out to 660 yards and did this.
10"x18" plate at 660 yards. Five consecutive shots using the side of a 4wheeler to lay the rifle on. Group was roughly 7.5". Attached File That may not be all that impressive to a lot of guys but for someone who has never done this before I was honestly shocked |
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