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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2015 11:59:02 PM EDT
I was at the LGS and they have a Savage 10FCP-SR in stock, this particular one with a 20" barrel. It is $650. I am seriously thinking about it, but I do know that they discontinued these in 2014. Also, I have a DPMS Recon in 308 with a 16.5" barrel, will this Savage do anything that it won't? Is it really worth spending the money? Thanks.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2015 12:49:40 AM EDT
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I'm guessing it will be more accurate than your dpms . This is coming from an lrt-sass owner who moved to an FN-spr.
More importantly, if you reload , bolt actions are much easier to reload for. Resizing and trimming takes more work. Also, generally you have more reloading options for bolt actions. You're not limited to 2.80 OAL, and easier to find the sweet spot. No worries about cycling for softer loads as well. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2015 12:58:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ronnoc:
I was at the LGS and they have a Savage 10FCP-SR in stock, this particular one with a 20" barrel. It is $650. I am seriously thinking about it, but I do know that they discontinued these in 2014. That particular model FCP-SR is brand new for 2015, and is a different SKU than the one with desert digital stock and AICS bottom metal that was discontinued for 2014. It will probably be more accurate as mentioned - it also won't sling or beat up brass like a gas gun will (may or may not be a factor for you). |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:27:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ReconB4]
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My 24" fcp-hs shoots 1/2 moa...im thinking most ar10 rifles will not match that.
But...the savage cant match an ar10's rate of fire breathing... I can afford feeding a 308 boltgun...not an ar10. Is anyone going to be fire breathing at long range precision shooting? Not if you plan on being accurate. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2015 5:24:26 AM EDT
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My 24" FCP-SR is also a .5 MOA gun with 4064 and 175 SMKs, but it is a 2013 model. I do not know anything about these new models but the MSRP is a couple hundred less than the last model. It looks like they are using some kind of plastic magazine rather than the AI mags of the older model. If that is the only difference it should be a great shooter and you can just switch to AI mag compatible bottom metal if you get a new stock. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 6:24:50 AM EDT
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Much more accurate; this looks a lot like my Savage 10 TR which was a LEO/Mil only rifle. Mine is a 20 inch bbl and stupid accurate.
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AR, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2015 8:05:31 AM EDT
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I have the 2013 model FCP-SR and a couple of .308 ARs. The FCP is more accurate than my DPMS SASS, but not by much.
I am curious about the bottom metal/magazine on this new 2015 model. I might have to get one. Gosh, it is almost $400 cheaper than the previous model. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2015 8:46:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jough43:I am curious about the bottom metal/magazine on this new 2015 model. I might have to get one. Gosh, it is almost $400 cheaper than the previous model. It is a steel Savage factory DBM with a new Savage factory 10rd 308 magazine - NOT AICS. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2015 10:01:54 AM EDT
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Is $650 a good price for that? I did some looking around for aftermarket stocks but did not zee any that fit or could not fivure that out. I have neeb wanting a precision bolt gun just not sure if I want to spend the money. I have a Ruger GSR also. I would be running a suppressor on it also.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2015 11:33:38 PM EDT
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Friend of mine just bought one. So far he is not happy with the mag. Says he can only get 6-7 rounds in it before it jams up
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2015 12:05:16 AM EDT
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I have been doing some looking at it and it does not come with an Accustock and don't see any aftermarket ones for it yet either. I am starting to give some thought to a Mossberg MVP, some of the new ones coming out look nice. Maybe even go 5.56 so it is cheaper to shoot and get a .308 later.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2015 2:49:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronnoc:
I have been doing some looking at it and it does not come with an Accustock and don't see any aftermarket ones for it yet either. I am starting to give some thought to a Mossberg MVP, some of the new ones coming out look nice. Maybe even go 5.56 so it is cheaper to shoot and get a .308 later. What makes this model different from the other savages that it wont accept an aftermarket stock? I just bought one and was planning to swap the stocks... |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2015 3:24:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad_company2:
What makes this model different from the other savages that it wont accept an aftermarket stock? I just bought one and was planning to swap the stocks... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad_company2:
Originally Posted By Ronnoc:
I have been doing some looking at it and it does not come with an Accustock and don't see any aftermarket ones for it yet either. I am starting to give some thought to a Mossberg MVP, some of the new ones coming out look nice. Maybe even go 5.56 so it is cheaper to shoot and get a .308 later. What makes this model different from the other savages that it wont accept an aftermarket stock? I just bought one and was planning to swap the stocks... There might be stocks, I just could not find any. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2015 7:40:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jough43]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronnoc:
I have been doing some looking at it and it does not come with an Accustock and don't see any aftermarket ones for it yet either. I am starting to give some thought to a Mossberg MVP, some of the new ones coming out look nice. Maybe even go 5.56 so it is cheaper to shoot and get a .308 later. The Savage website says it comes with an Accustock. See the link in your original post. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2015 6:51:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jough43:
The Savage website says it comes with an Accustock. See the link in your original post. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jough43:
Originally Posted By Ronnoc:
I have been doing some looking at it and it does not come with an Accustock and don't see any aftermarket ones for it yet either. I am starting to give some thought to a Mossberg MVP, some of the new ones coming out look nice. Maybe even go 5.56 so it is cheaper to shoot and get a .308 later. The Savage website says it comes with an Accustock. See the link in your original post. I doubt it has a accustock. They generally are marked with a triangle and notation. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2015 7:29:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad_company2:I doubt it has a accustock. They generally are marked with a triangle and notation. It is a removable sticker. If Savage's website says it has an Accustock, it does. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2015 3:24:33 PM EDT
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Like previously stated I doubt Savage would put on their website that it has a accustock if it didn't, and to base your opinion off the fact that it dosent have the sticker in the pic over the fact they say it does it nieve. Also its a savage 10 short action, im sure it will fit in any aftermarket stock for the savage 10 sa, (not sure but guessing its 4.40 blot spacing like all the other newer ones). Only thing you may run into is having to cut the stock for the DBM but im sure stock makers will e coming out soon with a stock that comes pre cut for it. Or you could go to a chassis which will be ready to accept a AICs mag.
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OK, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:59:01 PM EDT
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Without knowing how your AR shoots it's hard to say. :)
A reasonable Savage out of the box with a tailored load or match grade ammo should be a 1 MOA shooter. I have a bone stock 10FPSR which is about a 3/4 MOA with a couple of my loads and FGGM but I'm just an enthusatistic amateur so it might be me, it might be the gun that's keeping it from being a half moa shooter. It's still in the tupperware stock for goodness sake. A quality SPR with the right loads in 308 should be close to a MOA shooter from what I've seen. Certainly under 2 MOA. So it really depends on what you want it for? If it's to get bug holes on paper or X rings at long range then the bolt will be the better bang for the buck. If it's to get minute of zombie horde out to a 800 yards then the SPR may be the better option. The bolt gun will be a lot more omnivorous in diet, with options like jump length to lands, sub sonic loads. The SPR will put more copper covered lead down range faster. Personally I just find bolt guns more enjoyable to shoot. It's like some people go to Vegas just to work the slot machines. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2015 10:15:39 PM EDT
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Well, I starting to seriously look. Looking at:
-Rem 700 type with a threaded barrel -Mossberg MVP Thunder Ranch or Predator with an 18.5" medium bull threaded barrel -Savage 10 FCP-LR I am really thinking the MVP to shoot 556 and 223 and then a 308 later, especially due to using AR mags. I have lots of 556 and some 223 to go with my ARs. I have a Ruger GSR and the AR10 as well, so both eventually. I would like a Rem 700 with an 18.5 barrel. Still trying to decide by most likely something in 556 or 223 first. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:54:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WantsAnRRA:
Friend of mine just bought one. So far he is not happy with the mag. Says he can only get 6-7 rounds in it before it jams up My mag problem was a bummer, but Savage has good customer service and they're sending me a new mag. As for accuracy, the gun will shoot 0.5 MOA or better with Gold Medal Match or Hornady Match if I do my part. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2015 1:28:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dcordin44:
My mag problem was a bummer, but Savage has good customer service and they're sending me a new mag. As for accuracy, the gun will shoot 0.5 MOA or better with Gold Medal Match or Hornady Match if I do my part. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dcordin44:
Originally Posted By WantsAnRRA:
Friend of mine just bought one. So far he is not happy with the mag. Says he can only get 6-7 rounds in it before it jams up My mag problem was a bummer, but Savage has good customer service and they're sending me a new mag. As for accuracy, the gun will shoot 0.5 MOA or better with Gold Medal Match or Hornady Match if I do my part. I saw it |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2015 1:37:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By avboiler11:
It is a removable sticker. If Savage's website says it has an Accustock, it does. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By avboiler11:
Originally Posted By bad_company2:I doubt it has a accustock. They generally are marked with a triangle and notation. It is a removable sticker. If Savage's website says it has an Accustock, it does. I took apart my FCP-SR to inspect the stock just now and did not find any aluminum bedding or anything at the mounting holes that would indicate that this is an accustock. The stock material is plastic through and through. I took some photos of this area and can post pics if anyones interested. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2015 1:44:10 AM EDT
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2015 1:45:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:29:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By army_eod: Much more accurate; this looks a lot like my Savage 10 TR which was a LEO/Mil only rifle. Mine is a 20 inch bbl and stupid accurate. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:33:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By avboiler11: It is a steel Savage factory DBM with a new Savage factory 10rd 308 magazine - NOT AICS. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By avboiler11: Originally Posted By jough43:I am curious about the bottom metal/magazine on this new 2015 model. I might have to get one. Gosh, it is almost $400 cheaper than the previous model. It is a steel Savage factory DBM with a new Savage factory 10rd 308 magazine - NOT AICS. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:33:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jough43: The Savage website says it comes with an Accustock. See the link in your original post. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jough43: Originally Posted By Ronnoc: I have been doing some looking at it and it does not come with an Accustock and don't see any aftermarket ones for it yet either. I am starting to give some thought to a Mossberg MVP, some of the new ones coming out look nice. Maybe even go 5.56 so it is cheaper to shoot and get a .308 later. The Savage website says it comes with an Accustock. See the link in your original post. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:56:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad_company2:
I took apart my FCP-SR to inspect the stock just now and did not find any aluminum bedding or anything at the mounting holes that would indicate that this is an accustock. The stock material is plastic through and through. I took some photos of this area and can post pics if anyones interested. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad_company2:
Originally Posted By avboiler11:
Originally Posted By bad_company2:I doubt it has a accustock. They generally are marked with a triangle and notation. It is a removable sticker. If Savage's website says it has an Accustock, it does. I took apart my FCP-SR to inspect the stock just now and did not find any aluminum bedding or anything at the mounting holes that would indicate that this is an accustock. The stock material is plastic through and through. I took some photos of this area and can post pics if anyones interested. please post. thanks |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2015 1:08:14 AM EDT
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I was just thinking about picking up one of these too. Not alot of information about them, from what I've read tho if you do your part you're hitting .5 MOA all day. Guess I will take a look over the weekend.
To compare this to an AR10 is too broad too. You talking about a SASS style rifle? Or a 16" Carbine DPMS? Big difference there. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2015 1:14:20 AM EDT
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I am talking about a 16.5 DPMS Recon. Just trying to justify spending the money. I am interested in the Savage, but the lack of aftermarket replacement stocks is a bother. I am really considering just doing 223 first in a Remington 700 SPS, heck even thought about both or two 700s in 308 and 223. I cannot make up my mind.
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USA
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Posted: 1/30/2015 2:35:45 AM EDT
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What model is exactly like this one or as close to it as possible for 2015? Did they release anything to replace it?
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OK, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2015 2:03:24 PM EDT
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We're talking about the 2015 model.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:23:04 PM EDT
[#32]
Well, I got the Savage 10 FCP-SR that I posted about in the original post. The only place I have seen them is Cabela's. I went ahead and got it and can't wait to try it out. I now have to decide to use the Specwar 762 or YHM Ti 762 Phantom QD. I have to start hunting down some glass to use.
Later, I think I will pick up a Mossberg MVP Predator with an 18.5 barrel or one of the Rem 700 SPS ones in 223. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:58:27 PM EDT
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Ar10 won't ever weigh seven lbs...
It wont shoot Flat nose bullets... Bolt guns don't go off out of battery. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:22:46 AM EDT
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Let me try this again...
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:23:56 AM EDT
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Notice that there is no pillar bedding or aluminum. Its just a cheap plastic stock |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:26:20 AM EDT
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:53:53 PM EDT
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Wow, that is really disappointing. I have not checked mine. Are you going to check with Savage? I am finding out the mags kind of suck too.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 6:57:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bad_company2]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronnoc:
Wow, that is really disappointing. I have not checked mine. Are you going to check with Savage? I am finding out the mags kind of suck too. Yeah, its a total bummer. Ill call them on Monday and ask for an explanation. LMK what you find if you take yours apart. I just bought a 30mm vortex HS 4x16 scope for it and some scope rings. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:03:22 PM EDT
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Just checked mine, never thought about it until you mentioned this, but mine does not have the Accustock on it either. The website says it clearly comes with it. Not very happy with that at all. There is no aluminum bedding in it. I doubt I can return it to Cabela's, but I will try. Not happy with Savage.
Well, I spoke with Cabela's and it is complete BS. Apparently, the 10FCP-SR on Savage's site is not the same one that is out at Cabela's. So, if you go by Savage's site, you might get screwed. The one out at a lot of places is a late 2014 version that does not come with the Accustock. I guess some places have it, but not many. Pissed is an understatement. I will call Savage on Monday and see if they will send an Accustock, if not, I am selling this. Between this and the turd mag, I just got really soured on Savage. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:43:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronnoc:
Just checked mine, never thought about it until you mentioned this, but mine does not have the Accustock on it either. The website says it clearly comes with it. Not very happy with that at all. There is no aluminum bedding in it. I doubt I can return it to Cabela's, but I will try. Not happy with Savage. Well, I spoke with Cabela's and it is complete BS. Apparently, the 10FCP-SR on Savage's site is not the same one that is out at Cabela's. So, if you go by Savage's site, you might get screwed. The one out at a lot of places is a late 2014 version that does not come with the Accustock. I guess some places have it, but not many. Pissed is an understatement. I will call Savage on Monday and see if they will send an Accustock, if not, I am selling this. Between this and the turd mag, I just got really soured on Savage. I know that Cabelas does accept firearm returns, so we are SOL. Savage labels a gun FCP-SR but there turn out to be multiple variations? Cabelas never said that it was a Cabelas exclusive either. Ill let you know what I find out on Monday too. Whats wrong with the mag? It seems okay on mine. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:00:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad_company2:
I know that Cabelas does accept firearm returns, so we are SOL. Savage labels a gun FCP-SR but there turn out to be multiple variations? Cabelas never said that it was a Cabelas exclusive either. Ill let you know what I find out on Monday too. Whats wrong with the mag? It seems okay on mine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad_company2:
Originally Posted By Ronnoc:
Just checked mine, never thought about it until you mentioned this, but mine does not have the Accustock on it either. The website says it clearly comes with it. Not very happy with that at all. There is no aluminum bedding in it. I doubt I can return it to Cabela's, but I will try. Not happy with Savage. Well, I spoke with Cabela's and it is complete BS. Apparently, the 10FCP-SR on Savage's site is not the same one that is out at Cabela's. So, if you go by Savage's site, you might get screwed. The one out at a lot of places is a late 2014 version that does not come with the Accustock. I guess some places have it, but not many. Pissed is an understatement. I will call Savage on Monday and see if they will send an Accustock, if not, I am selling this. Between this and the turd mag, I just got really soured on Savage. I know that Cabelas does accept firearm returns, so we are SOL. Savage labels a gun FCP-SR but there turn out to be multiple variations? Cabelas never said that it was a Cabelas exclusive either. Ill let you know what I find out on Monday too. Whats wrong with the mag? It seems okay on mine. The follower tilts and hangs. I have to bang it loose. This is just checking the mag. I have not shot the gun. I think I might try selling, I am pissed enough about it. To me, this was deceitful on Savage's part. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:24:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronnoc:
The follower tilts and hangs. I have to bang it loose. This is just checking the mag. I have not shot the gun. I think I might try selling, I am pissed enough about it. To me, this was deceitful on Savage's part. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronnoc:
Originally Posted By bad_company2:
Originally Posted By Ronnoc:
Just checked mine, never thought about it until you mentioned this, but mine does not have the Accustock on it either. The website says it clearly comes with it. Not very happy with that at all. There is no aluminum bedding in it. I doubt I can return it to Cabela's, but I will try. Not happy with Savage. Well, I spoke with Cabela's and it is complete BS. Apparently, the 10FCP-SR on Savage's site is not the same one that is out at Cabela's. So, if you go by Savage's site, you might get screwed. The one out at a lot of places is a late 2014 version that does not come with the Accustock. I guess some places have it, but not many. Pissed is an understatement. I will call Savage on Monday and see if they will send an Accustock, if not, I am selling this. Between this and the turd mag, I just got really soured on Savage. I know that Cabelas does accept firearm returns, so we are SOL. Savage labels a gun FCP-SR but there turn out to be multiple variations? Cabelas never said that it was a Cabelas exclusive either. Ill let you know what I find out on Monday too. Whats wrong with the mag? It seems okay on mine. The follower tilts and hangs. I have to bang it loose. This is just checking the mag. I have not shot the gun. I think I might try selling, I am pissed enough about it. To me, this was deceitful on Savage's part. Ah. Either way, im going to keep the gun. It has the features that I want, short semi heavy barrel, fluted, large bolt handle, and a rail. If Savage wont send me an accustock, then ill look into Manners or something else. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:52:13 PM EDT
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Right now, I am not too sure there is one that will fit it. I think there might be one from B&C.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 9:16:20 PM EDT
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I saw a post on snipers hide that lists CS-BDLSV as a new 2015 stock offering. Its made for a savage short 2.75/4.40 actions. Perhaps it would fit?
CS-BDLSV |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 9:34:04 PM EDT
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Question to the guys who have the non accustock version was there a sticker on the rifle that said accustock? I ask this because my lgs has 2 of these that I have been eying but they both have accustock stickers? What gives?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 9:55:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stiles1410:
Question to the guys who have the non accustock version was there a sticker on the rifle that said accustock? I ask this because my lgs has 2 of these that I have been eying but they both have accustock stickers? What gives? No sticker. Got it at Cabelas. How much do the ones with the accusticker cost? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 9:55:36 PM EDT
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Apparently the version we got has the SKU 22192, which does not show up on the Savage website. The version SKU I think you need according to Savage's site is 22442, look for that SKU on the Savage box.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 9:59:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad_company2:
No sticker. Got it at Cabelas. How much do the ones with the accusticker cost? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad_company2:
Originally Posted By Stiles1410:
Question to the guys who have the non accustock version was there a sticker on the rifle that said accustock? I ask this because my lgs has 2 of these that I have been eying but they both have accustock stickers? What gives? No sticker. Got it at Cabelas. How much do the ones with the accusticker cost? They have them priced at $699 but they always give me a better deal I am guessing $650 |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 9:59:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronnoc:
Apparently the version we got has the SKU 22192, which does not show up on the Savage website. The version SKU I think you need according to Savage's site is 22442, look for that SKU on the Savage box. ffffffffffffffff Mine says SKU 22192 |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2015 10:03:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stiles1410:
They have them priced at $699 but they always give me a better deal I am guessing $650 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stiles1410:
Originally Posted By bad_company2:
Originally Posted By Stiles1410:
Question to the guys who have the non accustock version was there a sticker on the rifle that said accustock? I ask this because my lgs has 2 of these that I have been eying but they both have accustock stickers? What gives? No sticker. Got it at Cabelas. How much do the ones with the accusticker cost? They have them priced at $699 but they always give me a better deal I am guessing $650 Seems to be a good price, considering that mine was $650 |
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