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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:13:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sea2summit:
SOF guys do, don't think any other nations do. Brits had some for testing before they went LMT I think? I can say KACs have a fairly high number of issues out of the box to include whatever color that is supposed to be that they paint them. Takes some work to get one running like it should. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sea2summit:
Originally Posted By ACPjunkie:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Garby0331:
Well, LMT's have been to war. Has a OBR ever fired a round in anger? You do realize lots of SOF guys, the AMU, and other folks have been using OBRs for a while. IIRC, the International Sniper Comp has been won by teams fielding OBRs. Who else uses OBRs overseas? Honest question. SOF guys do, don't think any other nations do. Brits had some for testing before they went LMT I think? I can say KACs have a fairly high number of issues out of the box to include whatever color that is supposed to be that they paint them. Takes some work to get one running like it should. Like what? Also what generation of SR-25? |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:48:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jeepsnguns81:
Like what? Also what generation of SR-25? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jeepsnguns81:
Originally Posted By sea2summit:
Originally Posted By ACPjunkie:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Garby0331:
Well, LMT's have been to war. Has a OBR ever fired a round in anger? You do realize lots of SOF guys, the AMU, and other folks have been using OBRs for a while. IIRC, the International Sniper Comp has been won by teams fielding OBRs. Who else uses OBRs overseas? Honest question. SOF guys do, don't think any other nations do. Brits had some for testing before they went LMT I think? I can say KACs have a fairly high number of issues out of the box to include whatever color that is supposed to be that they paint them. Takes some work to get one running like it should. Like what? Also what generation of SR-25? My issues: -A new one was painted gold, had to be repainted before we would take it out of the arms room. -Suppressor sucks, the pin mechanism that holds it on was very loose and not secure. Would work its self loose while shooting or rucking and had to be constantly checked between firing positions if it was left installed. -Several of the magazines we're not reliable, additional/replacement magazines are hard to get (take forever to work through the supply system). -Not going to blame it on the rifle per se but we had an ND in the back of a stryker. Safety selector possibly messed with by other soldiers getting in the vehicle and with the right bump it launched a round into the floor board. -All the parts started rattling around pretty good after a few months of use: trigger would move laterally, upper/lower very loose fit, magazines would drop free, stuff like that. -Another deployment we got a refurb that was a less stupid gold color but still gold. The kit was also incomplete but we're pretty sure it got pilfered enroute so magazines etc etc all over again took a lot of time to get the system in the fight. Those are the only 110's I worked with. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:22:01 PM EDT
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Most of those issues sound like user maintenance issues and not issues with M110's out of the box as you claimed earlier.
People treating M110's like they were just big ARs are asking for issues. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:24:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMy issues: -A new one was painted gold, had to be repainted before we would take it out of the arms room. -Suppressor sucks, the pin mechanism that holds it on was very loose and not secure. Would work its self loose while shooting or rucking and had to be constantly checked between firing positions if it was left installed. -Several of the magazines we're not reliable, additional/replacement magazines are hard to get (take forever to work through the supply system). -Not going to blame it on the rifle per se but we had an ND in the back of a stryker. Safety selector possibly messed with by other soldiers getting in the vehicle and with the right bump it launched a round into the floor board. -All the parts started rattling around pretty good after a few months of use: trigger would move laterally, upper/lower very loose fit, magazines would drop free, stuff like that. -Another deployment we got a refurb that was a less stupid gold color but still gold. The kit was also incomplete but we're pretty sure it got pilfered enroute so magazines etc etc all over again took a lot of time to get the system in the fight. Those are the only 110's I worked with. Looking over your list, I only see one issue related to the function of the rifle itself, any idea if this particular unit had been "worked on"? Also curious to how much heavy use it had seen. Most of the complaints I have seen or heard centered around earlier generations of the SR25 and not with the current rifles being offered for sale. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:03:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LaRue_Tactical]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jeepsnguns81:
I have never heard any mention of them participating. Here is an article that discusses the trial. http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=907 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jeepsnguns81:
Originally Posted By sea2summit:
Originally Posted By ACPjunkie:
Why did the Brits take the LMT over the OBR then? And I wasnt implying that SOF uses COTS KAC guns, KAC M110's and MK11's are pretty standard in the military as a whole. Most arms rooms that support a sniper section or DMR MTOE will have KAC guns in it. So issues or not, its what is easily available. I'd bet because LMT had other calibers already out and manufacturing capabilities but that is a pure guess on my part. And I'm not sure LT's where in the test lineup. I have never heard any mention of them participating. Here is an article that discusses the trial. http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=907 Well dang, has our mount on the optic ... so yeah, we played a small part. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:19:02 PM EDT
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As well they should, I love your mounts.
Did the Brits say why they didnt pick up the OBR? |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:09:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ACPjunkie:
I dont think the AMU deploys as a unit, and they probably wont be taking the unit weapons with them when the members catch deployments with other units. So the fact that the AMU may have OBRs is irrelevant. SOF does whatever SOF wants, obviously, but they also have been know to have GAP10s at the competitions. What they use overseas, no idea, I have never seen any evidence either way, safe assumption would be KAC rifles, as they can be found through military channels. Who else uses OBRs overseas? Honest question. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ACPjunkie:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Garby0331:
Well, LMT's have been to war. Has a OBR ever fired a round in anger? You do realize lots of SOF guys, the AMU, and other folks have been using OBRs for a while. IIRC, the International Sniper Comp has been won by teams fielding OBRs. Who else uses OBRs overseas? Honest question. I'm not sure who else uses them overseas. Pretty sure various US SOF using overseas, not just in competitions. Somewhere, I have pics on my computer of an ODA team using it during training. |
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Posted: 5/16/2015 9:00:19 AM EDT
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You know what becomes readily apparent to me?
Mr Larue loves him some internet drama |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2015 9:45:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hkx3:
You know what becomes readily apparent to me? Mr Larue loves him some internet drama Its pretty apparent to me that of these folks take these threads and comments pretty damn serious lol. |
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Posted: 5/16/2015 11:44:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By skelt11:
Its pretty apparent to me that of these folks take these threads and comments pretty damn serious lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By skelt11:
Originally Posted By hkx3:
You know what becomes readily apparent to me? Mr Larue loves him some internet drama Its pretty apparent to me that of these folks take these threads and comments pretty damn serious lol. It's pretty apparent to all of us that you didn't pay much attention to your 2nd Grade English class. 
In all seriousness, I think OP got what he needed from this thread to make the best purchase for his situation. |
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Posted: 6/5/2015 9:14:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Nick_Adams]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jeepsnguns81:
LMTs are issued by the Brits right now, as the L129A1. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jeepsnguns81:
Originally Posted By sea2summit:
Originally Posted By Garby0331:
Originally Posted By Space-One275:
Originally Posted By Garby0331:
Well, LMT's have been to war. Has a OBR ever fired a round in anger? Because that has any relevance to this thread..... http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130323124354/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/d/dc/Meme_face_mad.jpg He's asking to trade an issued weapon of war for an untested range toy. I think that's relevant Strangely I've never seen an LMT in combat or even heard anyone talk about one but Larue on the other hand... LMTs are issued by the Brits right now, as the L129A1. Have the LM8, with a 16" C/L barrel and an 18" SS SPR tube. Great shooter with either barrel. Wouldn't trade it. |
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Posted: 2/28/2016 11:49:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hkx3:
You know what becomes readily apparent to me? Mr. LaRue loves him some internet drama 
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Posted: 3/1/2016 8:09:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JonLSU]
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Personally I would trade it, but I wanted the OBR originally. I had one on order literally the day after Larue killed their military/leo discount program. After about 12 months of waiting I came across a 16in SS lmt slickside and they offered the discount so I cancelled the larue since it was about $500 cheaper.
I'd actually prefer the lmt lower with the larue upper. My lmt shoots awesome, but for some reason I still want a larue rifle. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 7:11:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By hkx3:
You know what becomes readily apparent to me? Mr. LaRue loves him some internet drama
I think it's awesome that you are here on the forums with us.. |
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Posted: 4/9/2016 3:11:59 PM EDT
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As a previous owner of an obr (sold to buy new truck) I can say they are great shooting rifles but absolute boat anchors.
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Posted: 4/9/2016 10:34:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dsparil:
As a previous owner of an obr (sold to buy new truck) I can say they are great shooting rifles but absolute boat anchors. I train by dual wielding FALs. I've heard the MWSs can get pretty heavy when they're accessorized as well. |
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Posted: 4/10/2016 4:58:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dsparil:
As a previous owner of an obr (sold to buy new truck) I can say they are great shooting rifles but absolute boat anchors. They all are. I have an LMT MWS. The only .308 rifle that's "less" of a boat anchor is the SCAR 17. |
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Posted: 4/12/2016 5:41:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blackfoot_7]
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The amount of typical Internet bullshit in this thread is beyond ridiculous.
OP, if the LMT isn't meeting your requirements, trade it. Would I trade my LMT? No. Do what you feel is right. ETA: Nevermind. Looks like Mark is bored out of his mind and has resorted to necroposting. This thread died last year. 
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Posted: 4/12/2016 8:49:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
OBRs have no emotion chip.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Garby0331:
Well, LMT's have been to war. Has a OBR ever fired a round in anger? OBRs have no emotion chip. Have they ever been slide down a driveway? |
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Posted: 4/12/2016 10:15:22 PM EDT
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I'm late to the part here but I have a LMT MWS that I would definitely trade for a PredatOBR.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 1:07:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mopseydocks6014:
I'm late to the part here but I have a LMT MWS that I would definitely trade for a PredatOBR. Not sure what part but yeah, about a year too late
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Posted: 4/19/2016 7:27:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LaRue_Tactical]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RANGER_556:
Have they ever been slide down a driveway? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RANGER_556:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Garby0331:
Well, LMT's have been to war. Has a OBR ever fired a round in anger? OBRs have no emotion chip. Have they ever been slide down a driveway? A man slipped off a shale bluff in Alaska, got airlifted out, choppa eased further down ridge for him before they headed out and snatched rifle off rocky bluff ... no zero shift. Over Bluff Rifle |
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